Saturday, September 12th 2020

NVIDIA: GeForce RTX 3080 Reviews Delayed, RTX 3070 Availability Confirmed

NVIDIA in a GeForce community forums post by staff member, announced that reviews of the GeForce RTX 3080 Founders Edition have been delayed to September 16, with the review NDA lifting at 6:00 AM Pacific Time. This NDA was originally slated to be lifted on September 14. According to a Reddit post by an NVIDIA representative "NV-Tim," the delay was in response to certain reviewers requesting more time from NVIDIA as COVID-19 impacted their sampling logistics.

In other news, NVIDIA announced that its $499 (starting) GeForce RTX 3070 graphics card will be available on October 15, 2020. The performance segment graphics card is hotly anticipated by the gaming community as the other two products in the series—RTX 3080 and RTX 3090—are enthusiast segment products. NVIDIA claims that the RTX 3070 beats the RTX 2080 Ti in performance, which means the card should be capable of 1440p high refresh-rate gaming, and 4K UHD gaming at 60 Hz.
Sources: NVIDIA GeForce Community, NV-Tim (Reddit)
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104 Comments on NVIDIA: GeForce RTX 3080 Reviews Delayed, RTX 3070 Availability Confirmed

#1
HD64G
nVidia's CEO clearly said on the livestream that 3070=2080Ti performance, not higher. And when reviewed I predict that at 4K it will be slightly behind 2080Ti (~5%).
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#2
Anymal
I get a little excited everytime I see nvidia and/or their logo in news titles. Does it make me a fanboy?
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#3
arbiter
HD64G
nVidia's CEO clearly said on the livestream that 3070=2080Ti performance, not higher. And when reviewed I predict that at 4K it will be slightly behind 2080Ti (~5%).
looking at specs, 3070 has ~30% more shaders and maybe 200mhz higher listed clocks. At 1080 and 1440p it should be maybe 15-20% faster but that is just a a guess.
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#4
Metroid
I'm a lot more interested on the 3060ti after its specs was leaked. The 3070 was born dead. The 3070ti will likely be a lot more interesting.
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#5
DuxCro
HD64G
nVidia's CEO clearly said on the livestream that 3070=2080Ti performance, not higher. And when reviewed I predict that at 4K it will be slightly behind 2080Ti (~5%).
He said "faster than 2080Ti"
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#6
Xuper
DuxCro
He said "faster than 2080Ti"

All resolutions or just 1080p/1440p?
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#7
THANATOS
arbiter
looking at specs, 3070 has ~30% more shaders and maybe 200mhz higher listed clocks. At 1080 and 1440p it should be maybe 15-20% faster but that is just a a guess.
RTX 3070 vs 2080Ti
SM: 46 vs 68(+48%)
Shaders: 5888(+35%) vs 4352
TMUs: 184 vs 272(+48%)
ROPs: 64 vs 88(+38%)
Bandwidth: 448GB/s vs 616GB/s (+38%)

Edit: If It really is as fast or faster than RTX2080Ti in standard rasterization, then good job Nvidia. The only downside is 8GB vs 11GB Vram and relatively high TDP for a smaller process.
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#8
isvelte
DuxCro
He said "faster than 2080Ti"

Well he also said 3080 is double the performance of 2080, but it was only in one game which is Quake RTX, the others are roughly +70-80% vs 2080. So im not convinced this one is true. I wish these tech companies learn that its better to under promise and over deliver. Also turing shaders is not 1 to 1 Ampere shaders, all the benchmark we already know about 3080 proves that.
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#9
Luminescent
HD64G
nVidia's CEO clearly said on the livestream that 3070=2080Ti performance, not higher. And when reviewed I predict that at 4K it will be slightly behind 2080Ti (~5%).
They can "fix" from drivers performance for 2080TI so it can be behind or equal to 3070, for current games they might leave it at that but future games will make 3070 better.
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#10
THANATOS
Metroid
I'm a lot more interested on the 3060ti after its specs was leaked. The 3070 was born dead. The 3070ti will likely be a lot more interesting.
Why would be 3070Ti(Super) more interesting? If It's just a full GA104(392 mm² ) then I don't think there will be more than 48SM, 6144Cuda, 192TMU, 64ROPs, that won't increase the performance by much.
Only If the amount of Vram will be doubled to 16GB I will find It much more interesting, but then the question will be the price.
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#11
Kohl Baas
Xuper
All resolutions or just 1080p/1440p?
My guess is just RT.
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#12
Tomgang
For my 2 in 1 system plans I am planning to get, the gpu's are not yet officially confirmed. That will be RTX 3060 TI if spec are true and rtx 3080 TI if it's named that or maybe super.
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#13
Metroid
THANATOS
Why would be 3070Ti(Super) more interesting? If It's just a full GA104(392 mm² ) then I don't think there will be more than 48SM, 6144Cuda, 192TMU, 64ROPs, that won't increase the performance by much.
Only If the amount of Vram will be doubled to 16GB I will find It much more interesting, but then the question will be the price.
Anything really would be more interesting than the 3070.
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#14
Vayra86
Metroid
Anything really would be more interesting than the 3070.
Can you elaborate?
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#15
Xuper
THANATOS
RTX 3070 vs 2080Ti
SM: 46 vs 68(+48%)
Shaders: 5888(+35%) vs 4352
TMUs: 184 vs 272(+48%)
ROPs: 64 vs 88(+38%)
Bandwidth: 448GB/s vs 616GB/s (+38%)

Edit: If It really is as fast or faster than RTX2080Ti in standard rasterization, then good job Nvidia. The only downside is 8GB vs 11GB Vram and relatively high TDP for a smaller process.
I heard Nvidia counts FP32 as CUDA cores.this means they're not same as turning arc.
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#16
claylomax
Kohl Baas
My guess is just RT.
This.
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#17
ppn
5888 performs like 4352 FP32 + 1536 integer with the ability to do FP32+integer 1:1 2944 or 2x2944FP32. So ampere can tap into 50% extra performace, but keeping the memory bus unchanged that is more like 25% faster than 2080. which sounds close to 2080Ti.
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#18
ThrashZone
Metroid
Anything really would be more interesting than the 3070.
Vayra86
Can you elaborate?
Hi,
Flight simulators for one even 3070ti would be better seeing it has 16gb vmem instead of piddly 8gb if reports are correct.
Even 3080 with 10gb is anticlimactic maybe 3080ti will be with 20gb.
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#19
ppn
if you had to choose between 3080 10GB, and 3070 16GB,, +60% performance or +60% memory, at almost the same price what would you choose. $600-700, just 3060 with 3070 sticker on it.
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#20
ThrashZone
Hi,
If the 3080 had at least 12gb's nobody would care :-)
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#21
Vya Domus
isvelte
I wish these tech companies learn that its better to under promise and over deliver.
Over promising is always more effective, that's how marketing works.
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#22
QUANTUMPHYSICS
Microcenter told me I could pick up a 3080 on Thursday morning September 18th.

They told me I can pick up a Kingpin3090 on September 24th.
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#23
EarthDog
Luminescent
They can "fix" from drivers performance for 2080TI so it can be behind or equal to 3070, for current games they might leave it at that but future games will make 3070 better.
Please refrain from posting such drivel. :(
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#24
Naito
Performance is looking fairly promising in a leaked RTX 3080 review:
Firestrike - 200fps+, 31919 score, 25% faster than 2080Ti

Firestrike Extreme - 1440p, 20101 score, 24% faster than 2080Ti , 45% faster than 2080S

Firestrike Ultra - 2160p, 11049 score, 36% faster than 2080Ti, 64% faster than 2080S

Timespy - 1440p, DX12, 17428 score, 28% faster than 2080Ti, 49% faster than 2080S

Timespy Extreme - 4K DX12, 8548 score, 38% faster than 2080Ti, 59% faster than 2080S

Port Royal - 1440p, 11455 score, 45% faster than 2080Ti, 64% faster than 2080S

Farcry 5 - 4K, GPU maxed at 99%, 5GB Video Memory used, 62% faster than 2080S

Borderlands 3 - 4K, DX12, GPU maxed at 100%, 7.4GB Video Memory used, 56% faster than 2080S

Horizon Zero Dawn - 4K, GPU maxed at 99%, 9.9G Video Memory used, 76FPS average

Assasins Creed Odyssey - 4K, GPU at 97%, 7GB Video mem, 67fps average, 48% faster than 2080S

Forza Horizon 4 - 4K, 143fps, GPU at 97%, 48% faster than 2080S

Shadow of the Tomb Raider - 4K, DLSS ON GPU @ 99% with 99fps, DLSS OFF GPU @ 99% with 113fps, 7GB video memory used

Control - 4K, DLSS ON GPU @ 99% with 101fps, DLLS OFF GPU @ 99% with 59fps, 7.5GB video memory used

Death Stranding - 4K, DLSS ON GPU @ 99% with 170fps, DLSS OFF GPU @ 99% with 123fps, 5.1GB video memory used

Thanks to OzB user phunkydude for translation
Not sure if legit, but here is a link to source
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#25
BiggieShady
Xuper
All resolutions or just 1080p/1440p?
Kohl Baas
My guess is just RT.
claylomax
This.
Wait, what? We have already seen in both RTX and non RTX games there is at least 1.7x speedup (max 2x) from 2080 to 3080. That confirms 3070 being faster than 2080ti exactly in those games where 2080 to 3080 speedup is closer to 2x.
I have seen Doom Eternal (Vulkan), Shadow of the Tomb Raider (Partial RTX DX12) and Control (Full RTX DX12) tested at YT Digital Foundry channel, all showing consistent scaling of frame rate increase
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