Sunday, October 18th 2020

AMD Navi 21 XT Seemingly Confirmed to Run at ~2.3, 2.4 GHz Clock, 250 W+

AMD's RDNA2-based cards are just around the corner, with the company's full debut of the secrecy-shrouded cards being set for October 28th. Rumors of high clocks on AMD's new architecture - which were nothing more than unsubstantiated rumors up to now - have seemingly been confirmed, with Patrick Schur posting on Twitter some specifications for upcoming RNDA2-based Navi 21 XT. Navi 21 XT falls under the big Navi chip, but likely isn't the top performer from AMD - the company is allegedly working on a Navi 21 XTX solution, which ought to be exclusive to their reference designs, with higher clocks and possibly more CUs.

The specs outed by Patrick are promising, to say the least; that AMD's Big Navi can reach clocks in excess of 2.4 GHz with a 250 W+ TGP (quoted at around 255 W) is certainly good news. The 2.4 GHz (game clock) speeds are being associated with AIB cards; AMD's own reference designs should be running at a more conservative 2.3 GHz. A memory pool of 16 GB GDDR6 has also been confirmed. AMD's assault on the NVIDIA 30-series lineup should embody three models carved from the Navi 21 chip - the higher performance, AMD-exclusive XTX, XT, and the lower performance Navi 21 XL. All of these are expected to ship with the same 256 bit bus and 16 GB GDDR6 memory, whilst taking advantage of AMD's (rumored, for now) Infinity Cache to make up for the lower memory speeds and bus. Hold on to your hats; the hype train is going full speed ahead, luckily stopping in a smooth manner come October 28th.
Sources: Patrick Schur @ Twitter, via Videocardz
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226 Comments on AMD Navi 21 XT Seemingly Confirmed to Run at ~2.3, 2.4 GHz Clock, 250 W+

#1
INSTG8R
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Just want the 6700XT to replace my 5700XT.
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#2
Verpal
Good, best case scenario XTX might be competitive against RTX 3090, if this ''infinity cache'' thing actually work well.

Considering Zen 3 pricing, I won't bet on AMD undercutting too much this time around.
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#3
cueman
interesting.looks it cant beat rtx 3080 so amd drop good its tdp down.
thouse clocks heard high,very high.

under 260w and rtx 3080 speed? noway.not 4K speed
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#4
Flanker
If RDNA2 can do what the HD4xxx series did at the time, I think that will be good news for consumers.
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#5
xman2007
Verpal
Good, best case scenario XTX might be competitive against RTX 3090, if this ''infinity cache'' thing actually work well.

Considering Zen 3 pricing, I won't bet on AMD undercutting too much this time around.
I don't get this notion that for the same performance they should be 50-100 cheaper than their nvidia counterpart though its fairly common presumption :confused:
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INSTG8R
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xman2007
I don't get this notion that for the same performance they should be 50-100 cheaper than their nvidia counterpart though its fairly common presumption :confused:
Well that’s usually what AMD does historically. But if they really have a 3080 contender who knows how pricing will go. It’s a pretty conventional card, no exotic HBM etc
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#7
john_
2.4GHz is a great frequency number for a GPU, but in the end performance is what matters.
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#8
ZoneDymo
xman2007
I don't get this notion that for the same performance they should be 50-100 cheaper than their nvidia counterpart though its fairly common presumption :confused:
Because...that is a reason for consumers to buy their card over the competitor? aka make them some money?

Like if Nvidia and AMD both had a card that performed identical and had the same power consumption etc, then personally atm I would probably go for Nvidia purely for that well done Nvenc which AMD has no answer for as of yet.

But if the AMD card is a good chunk of change cheaper, then I dont care about Nvenc and get AMD
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#9
BMfan80
Flanker
If RDNA2 can do what the HD4xxx series did at the time, I think that will be good news for consumers.
That would be awesome,I had a 4770 and when overclocked it was a beast of a card.
I have a screenshot of it back in the day with a furmark score that is higher than a GTX470

I'm waiting to see what the new cards can do,I would like to replace my 1080ti with one.
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#10
PrEzi
ZoneDymo
I would probably go for Nvidia purely for that well done Nvenc which AMD has no answer for as of yet.
Wait what ? What about the encoding engine with the on par features that was there for ages? VCE ?
I use A's video converter (free) for simple recodings if the quality doesn't matter (ans speed is preferred.... on the other hand with a 3960X it doesn't really make that much difference...).
If I want to achieve a high quality then no HW encoder is able to deliver it. Only high quality 2-pass encoding on a CPU.
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#11
EarthDog
Nice... im imagining a 3080 competitor (within a few % give or take) and cheaper. Sounds like a winner!
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#12
Max(IT)
hopefully they didn't go the "9800XT way".
We need a reliable product by AMD, after the "5700XT fiasco", not just something faster. Even if it is slightly slower than the Ampere competitor, but with 16 GB of VRAM and a lower price, I would consider it.
IF (and a big IF) it is reliable.
The 5700XT wasnt.
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#14
Vya Domus
High clocks means really high performance from the ROPs, something almost all large AMD GPUs seem to have lacked over the years. You can't really implement "wide ROPs" as the process they perform isn't easily parallelizable, so you can only increase their clock speed really.
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#15
Finners
who is Patrick Schur? quick google just brings up a twitter account with 1000 followers
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#16
Fabio
BMfan80
That would be awesome,I had a 4770 and when overclocked it was a beast of a card.
I have a screenshot of it back in the day with a furmark score that is higher than a GTX470

I'm waiting to see what the new cards can do,I would like to replace my 1080ti with one.
I need to replace my 1080 too. A card like that would be awesome
Max(IT)
hopefully they didn't go the "9800XT way".
We need a reliable product by AMD, after the "5700XT fiasco", not just something faster. Even if it is slightly slower than the Ampere competitor, but with 16 GB of VRAM and a lower price, I would consider it.
IF (and a big IF) it is reliable.
The 5700XT wasnt.
why you say 5700xt was a fiasco?
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#17
INSTG8R
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Fabio
why you say 5700xt was a fiasco?
Well it did have a rough launch driver wise so first month or so wasn’t great but fiasco is a bit of an exaggeration.
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#18
PTyop
BMfan80
That would be awesome,I had a 4770 and when overclocked it was a beast of a card.
I have a screenshot of it back in the day with a furmark score that is higher than a GTX470

I'm waiting to see what the new cards can do,I would like to replace my 1080ti with one.
That would be an hell of an overclock as the GTX 470 was 2 to 3 times more powerful than the HD 4770 !
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#19
bug
xman2007
I don't get this notion that for the same performance they should be 50-100 cheaper than their nvidia counterpart though its fairly common presumption :confused:
It's a psychological thing: if you offer something on-par with the competition, only later, you're at a disadvantage in the buyer's mind. So you "have to" offset that somehow, which is usually price.
Not very logical, but we aren't Vulcans either ;)
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#20
BMfan80
PTyop
That would be an hell of an overclock as the GTX 470 was 2 to 3 times more powerful than the HD 4770 !
I found an old screenshot and I compared my then 7950.
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#21
fynxer
Yea, this guy must been high GPU DUST for sure and he thinks unicorns exists too.

Why this is BULLSH!T is because he is saying 2.4 MHz in base frequency which would make boost much higher than that. Not a chance in hell this is true.

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#22
dj-electric
Its end of 2020, been who-counts amount of years with overhyping GPUs, yet people still bite....


... people still bite...
"Seemingly confirmed" is truly just the icing on this cake.
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#23
Totally
INSTG8R
Well that’s usually what AMD does historically. But if they really have a 3080 contender who knows how pricing will go. It’s a pretty conventional card, no exotic HBM etc
Where in the dark ages bro, price wars are a thing of the past, I put those days behind me when AMD made the announcement saying that they were no longer the value brand when they released Zen. Since Nvidia is currently dictating prices, whatever ceiling Nvidia sets AMD is going to do their best to match.
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#24
INSTG8R
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dj-electric
Its end of 2020, been who-counts amount of years with overhyping GPUs, yet people still bite....


... people still bite...
"Seemingly confirmed" is truly just the icing on this cake.
I would say this has been the least hyped GPU release in years. No leaks no “Raja hype”(poor Intel) we got a little tease at the CPU launch that’s about it.
Totally
Where in the dark ages bro, price wars are a thing of the past, I put those days behind me when AMD made the announcement saying that they were no longer the value brand when they released Zen. Since Nvidia is currently dictating prices, whatever ceiling Nvidia sets AMD is going to do their best to match.
Definitely want to see proper competition for sure.
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#25
Totally
Max(IT)
hopefully they didn't go the "9800XT way".
We need a reliable product by AMD, after the "5700XT fiasco", not just something faster. Even if it is slightly slower than the Ampere competitor, but with 16 GB of VRAM and a lower price, I would consider it.
IF (and a big IF) it is reliable.
The 5700XT wasnt.
Fiasco? can you help my memory?

Did the cards crash to desktop frequently when gaming or pushed hard?
Were the cards sold out day 1, hour 1, minute 1 because of extremely limited supply or non-existent supply in someplaces?
Very power hungry?
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