Monday, January 18th 2021

Intel Rocket Lake-S Processors European Pricing Leaked

Pricing for Intel's upcoming Rocket Lake-S series of desktop processors has recently been leaked by a Dutch computer store. The 11th Generation Intel Core i5, i7, and i9 processors will feature the new Comet Lake CPU architecture while the lower-end Intel Core i3, and Intel Pentium processors will retain the older Cypress Cove CPU architecture. The new Intel Core i9 processors have returned to an 8 core 16 thread design down from the 10 core 20 thread design found in 10th generation processors.

The Intel 11th Generation Core i9 series will be approximately 6.6% cheaper than their predecessors but with 2 fewer cores and 4 fewer threads. The other new processors all see price increases from their 10th generation versions with an average increase of 6.5%. The new Comet Lake CPU architecture is expected to bring significant IPC improvements which may allow them to regain the title of best gaming CPU.
Complete Pricing List

Core i9-11900K | €500 (~$604) | 8.9% Price Decrease
Core i9-11900KF | €476 (~$574) | 6.1% Price Decrease
Core i9-11900 | €408 (~$493) | 7.6% Price Decrease
Core i9-11900F | €384 (~$464) | 3.9% Price Decrease
Core i7-11700K | €377 (~$456) | 14.6% Price Increase
Core i7-11700KF | €353 (~$427) | 11.7% Price Increase
Core i7-11700 | €306 (~$370) | 4.1% Price Increase
Core i7-11700F | €282 (~$341) | 4.1% Price Increase
Core i5-11600K | €243 (~$294) | 4.3% Price Increase
Core i5-11600KF | €219 (~$265) | 4.3% Price Increase
Core i5-11600 | €207 (~$250) | 6.7% Price Increase
Core i5-11500 | €188 (~$227) | 6.8% Price Increase
Core i5-11400 | €169 (~$204) | 6.3% Price Increase
Core i5-11400F | €146 (~$176) | 2.1% Price Increase

Average Price Change Vs Previous Generation: 2.8% Price Increase
Source: 2compute
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69 Comments on Intel Rocket Lake-S Processors European Pricing Leaked

#1
watzupken
The pricing for the i9 gives the impression that it is cheaper, but at a per core pricing, it is actually more expensive.
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#2
neatfeatguy
Didn't the 10900k already beat the 5900x in 1080p gaming by 3-8% in a lot of games? Or am I remembering the TPU 5900x review wrong?

Right now with the provided slides it doesn't look any different for gaming at 1080p on the 11900k vs the 10900k vs the 5900x.
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#3
Caring1
Rocket and Pricing should not be in the same sentence, but it's Intel, so there it is.
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#4
Rowsol
While a price increase is never a good thing, if the 11400 can match the 5600x for a hundred dollars cheaper that's a win in my book.
And the 30 dollar delta between the reg and F versions is larger than before.
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#5
evernessince
neatfeatguy
Didn't the 10900k already beat the 5900x in 1080p gaming by 3-8% in a lot of games? Or am I remembering the TPU 5900x review wrong?

Right now with the provided slides it doesn't look any different for gaming at 1080p on the 11900k vs the 10900k vs the 5900x.
TPU's original review of the Ryzen 5000 series was abnormally low compared to other reviews around the internet and that's because slower RAM was used.

Techspot for example has the 5900X and 5950X higher: www.techspot.com/review/2132-amd-ryzen-5900x/

TPU did a re-review with faster memory and the results were much closer to what other reviewers were getting.

Can't say I agree with TPU's original reasoning for using slower RAM either. The reasoning was to reflect what an actual user might have but I think the average AMD user would spend the extra $10 to speed up their $550 CPU. In fact it wouldn't be out of the question for a processor of that price to be paired with the best RAM for the platform (which really isn't that much more money), like for example DDR4 3733 CL14. It's a double standard to slap a $160 liquid cooler on an Intel CPU and then not go ahead and use the best RAM possible for the AMD system.
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#6
dicktracy
Release date is too close to Alder Lake launch. Neither Rocket Lake or Zen 3 has enough performance difference vs ancient Skylake @ 14nm to waste time and money with. Huge pass!
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#7
Gmr_Chick
The price increase on the 11700K and KF tho! Both of those see the greatest increase between 10th and 11th gen.

Also, considering that the i9 has been downgraded to 8 cores max for RKL, what's the point of it existing if the i7 also has 8 cores?

Nevermind, I think I answered my own question: e-peen bragging rights, and profits for Big Blue
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#8
weekendgeek
Gmr_Chick
The price increase on the 11700K and KF tho! Both of those see the greatest increase between 10th and 11th gen.

Also, considering that the i9 has been downgraded to 8 cores max for RKL, what's the point of it existing if the i7 also has 8 cores?

Nevermind, I think I answered my own question: e-peen bragging rights, and profits for Big Blue
Yeah, we can probably thank the 5800x @ $450 for the price increase on the 11700k.

I'd agree about the 11900k. Not much need, much like the 10900k when the 10850k could be had as low as $400 at one point.

AMD and Intel: 1 - Consumers: 0
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#9
evernessince
weekendgeek
Yeah, we can probably thank the 5800x @ $450 for the price increase on the 11700k.

I'd agree about the 11900k. Not much need, much like the 10900k when the 10850k could be had as low as $400 at one point.

AMD and Intel: 1 - Consumers: 0
More or less par for the course recently. Companies are making record profits while average folk suffer and many die. I'm absolutely tired of it.
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#10
Max(IT)
How convenient, Intel.
I9 prices are decreasing because ... It isn't an i9 ! It is just another i7 faked as an i9.
On the other end, i7 and i5 prices are increased , up to 15%, for another 14 nm CPU...
dicktracy
Release date is too close to Alder Lake launch. Neither Rocket Lake or Zen 3 has enough performance difference vs ancient Skylake @ 14nm to waste time and money with. Huge pass!
Because you know when alder lake will launch, right ? Or are you believing in Intel roadmap, when in the last 5+ years they didn't deliver on time once ?
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#11
Selaya
The 11th Generation Intel Core i5, i7, and i9 processors will feature the new Comet Lake CPU architecture while the lower-end Intel Core i3, and Intel Pentium processors will retain the older Cypress Cove CPU architecture.
Should be the vice versa, Cypress Cove is new.

As for the new i9, my speculation is that it's the unobtainium double golden binned SKU just to nominally have something that can beat Vermeer, seeing as how it's utterly identical to the i7 otherwise.
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#12
londiste
This price increase/decrease part seems to be pure bullshit.
These seem to be set at RCP, keep in mind that EU includes taxes in price so prices end up practically the same number of $ in US and € in EU.

Not going to look at all of them, just a few:
- Core i9-11900K | €500 (~$604) | 8.9% Price Decrease
10900K RCP $488-$499, EU prices starting 480€
- Core i7-11700K | €377 (~$456) | 14.6% Price Increase
10700K RCP $374-$387, EU prices starting 315€
- Core i5-11400F | €146 (~$176) | 2.1% Price Increase
10400F RCP $155-$157, EU prices starting 145€

EU Prices with German VAT - 19%.
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#13
ZoneDymo
well priced too high, gg Intel
and a 9% decrease? compared to the 10900k? which was 25% more cores? dear lord....imagine actually buying that.
neatfeatguy
Didn't the 10900k already beat the 5900x in 1080p gaming by 3-8% in a lot of games? Or am I remembering the TPU 5900x review wrong?

Right now with the provided slides it doesn't look any different for gaming at 1080p on the 11900k vs the 10900k vs the 5900x.
5600x properly set up (OCed) with ram beats a 10900k most of the time if you check out GN's review

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#14
londiste
ZoneDymo
and a 9% decrease? compared to the 10900k? which was 25% more cores? dear lord....imagine actually buying that.
Imagine buying 5600X - 50% price increase for the same amount of cores.
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#15
Max(IT)
ZoneDymo
well priced too high, gg Intel
and a 9% decrease? compared to the 10900k? which was 25% more cores? dear lord....imagine actually buying that.



5600x properly set up (OCed) with ram beats a 10900k most of the time if you check out GN's review


nonetheless, 5600X pricing, as good as it is, still is ridiculous...
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#16
1d10t
Core i9-11900K | €500 (~$604) | 8.9% Price Decrease
Core i9-11900KF | €476 (~$574) | 6.1% Price Decrease
Core i9-11900 | €408 (~$493) | 7.6% Price Decrease
Core i9-11900F | €384 (~$464) | 3.9% Price Decrease
Wow, 20% less core for average 6% decrease is just, Intel.
And don't forget your motherboard creepily peeking at $220 at least.
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#17
Max(IT)
1d10t
Wow, 20% less core for average 6% decrease is just, Intel.
And don't forget your motherboard creepily peeking at $220 at least.
just like a price increase for the same number of cores is just, AMD...

It would be so much better if fanboysm would be left out of this forum...
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#18
ZoneDymo
londiste
Imagine buying 5600X - 50% price increase for the same amount of cores.
Well atleast its actually quite an improvement, and it is cheaper then all the others while providing the same performance in gaming.
But I do agree, I would not buy that one either right now
Max(IT)
just like a price increase for the same number of cores is just, AMD...

It would be so much better if fanboysm would be left out of this forum...
yeah but agian, the 5000 series is a noticable increase in performance over the previous, where the 10900k will just beat the 11900k in a lot of applications.
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#19
B-Real
People are crying (or just sad) about Zen 3 CPUs getting a price increase and hope Intel CPUs will get into the fight -> Intel sets (is this official?) the price of the 8/16 top model $50 higher than the rival's 12/24 model and $150 higher than its main rival with motherboards expected to also cost more than AMD-based products. LOL
neatfeatguy
Didn't the 10900k already beat the 5900x in 1080p gaming by 3-8% in a lot of games? Or am I remembering the TPU 5900x review wrong?

Right now with the provided slides it doesn't look any different for gaming at 1080p on the 11900k vs the 10900k vs the 5900x.
Nope. As far as I remember, TPU didn't use the same RAMs for Ryzen and Intel systems. And if you check other sites's reviews, all had the Ryzen as winner. Anyway, it's as small win as the lead Intel had with Comet Lake against Zen 2, so it's actually non-existant in real life circumstances (nobody uses high end GPUs in FHD and in 1440p nearly all lead is reduced to zero, and the same is true if not using high end GPUs in FHD). And this will be true for Rocket Lake if it manages to get the "lead" back. All what matters is the CPU power, efficiency and performance/price in which Ryzen just crushes Intel.
Rowsol
While a price increase is never a good thing, if the 11400 can match the 5600x for a hundred dollars cheaper that's a win in my book.
And the 30 dollar delta between the reg and F versions is larger than before.
Win in terms of what? It may be better by 1-2% in games in FHD with a high end GPU (if it will be) but in CPU performance, it will far short. Not to speak of overall cost and circumstances (more expensive mobo, no OC ability).
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#20
Adc7dTPU
11400F is gonna have decent price/perf ratio and no doubt AMD is ready to respond with the 5600 non-X. Wonder which one will get the price/perf crown.
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#21
Max(IT)
ZoneDymo
Well atleast its actually quite an improvement, and it is cheaper then all the others while providing the same performance in gaming.
But I do agree, I would not buy that one either right now


yeah but agian, the 5000 series is a noticable increase in performance over the previous, where the 10900k will just beat the 11900k in a lot of applications.
I’m not defending Rocket Lake, and if you look at my first comment I’m criticizing Intel since the beginning for this product.
But I really don’t think AMD is any better, on the price policy, and I’d like AMD supporters to avoid some comments here.
The only loser this year is the customer, even if new CPUs actually are better.
B-Real
People are crying (or just sad) about Zen 3 CPUs getting a price increase and hope Intel CPUs will get into the fight -> Intel sets (is this official?) the price of the 8/16 top model $50 higher than the rival's 12/24 model and $150 higher than its main rival with motherboards expected to also cost more than AMD-based products. LOL


Nope. As far as I remember, TPU didn't use the same RAMs for Ryzen and Intel systems. And if you check other sites's reviews, all had the Ryzen as winner. Anyway, it's as small win as the lead Intel had with Comet Lake against Zen 2, so it's actually non-existant in real life circumstances (nobody uses high end GPUs in FHD and in 1440p nearly all lead is reduced to zero, and the same is true if not using high end GPUs in FHD). And this will be true for Rocket Lake if it manages to get the "lead" back. All what matters is the CPU power, efficiency and performance/price in which Ryzen just crushes Intel.
In which parallel dimension ?
Those prices are not official, but even if they are right, an i9 11900K would be priced €500... well, reality check you cannot find any 5800X at €500 in Europe.
Both companies are lying to us about prices (at least AMD is... but I’m sure will be the same for Intel)
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#22
B-Real
Max(IT)
In which parallel dimension ?
Those prices are not official, but even if they are right, an i9 10900K would be priced €500... well, reality check you cannot find any 5800X at €500 in Europe.
Both companies are lying to us about prices (at least AMD is... but I’m sure will be the same for Intel)
Have you checked what currency I'm using? It's dollar, not EUR. 500 EUR and $600 next to it. 5800X is $450 and 5900 is $550.

"reality check you cannot find any 5800X at €500 in Europe"

Well, actually my pal, you are simply LYING or just have no clue regarding prices. Caseking: 469 EUR, Mindfactory: 458 EUR. In my country (Hungary), many shops are selling it from 162000 to 170000 Ft which is 450-470 EUR and we have Europe's highest VAT rate with 27%. All these prices in EUR are parallel with the $450 MSRP (+20-27% VAT). If you see a 5800X for much higher prices it means supplies are short. That's the only reason.

The other reason you see 500 EUR - $600 in the TPU news is the thing the 500 EUR price doesn't include the VAT. 500+ 20% VAT = 600 EUR. That's the price tag you will see on the 11900K - if $600 is the MSRP Intel set.
Max(IT)
just like a price increase for the same number of cores is just, AMD...

It would be so much better if fanboysm would be left out of this forum...
Of course nobody likes that CPUs got a $50 inrease. BUT at least with Zen 3 you can argue for that increase (if you are a representative from AMD): huge (and really huge) IPC boost, great increase in single core and even multi core performance (all leading to the fact that your 6/12 CPU is beating or being really close the rivals 8/16 CPU in applications), much better efficiency than even the good efficiency it had earlier and still having an all-generation AM4 compatibility with B450 motherboards, supporting all 4 generation of Ryzen CPUs.
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#23
1d10t
Max(IT)
just like a price increase for the same number of cores is just, AMD...

It would be so much better if fanboysm would be left out of this forum...
But already test and proven, not just with slides claiming 5% lead in 1080p gaming :p
I never said AMD was better with price, you could peek my system specs I'm still rocking old chips. AMD jacked up price for nearly 50%, but offer at least 15-20% across all test, productivity and gaming. If Rocket Lake also offer at least 10% performance uplift with fewer cores, which I highly doubt and yet to be proven, then we'll have a winner.
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#24
cst1992
I'd just wait for Intel Alder Lake with 10nm or Meteor Lake with 7nm fabrication process.
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#25
Max(IT)
cst1992
I'd just wait for Intel Alder Lake with 10nm or Meteor Lake with 7nm fabrication process.
You could have to wait a long time...
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