Tuesday, June 22nd 2021

Philips Momentum, The World's First Monitor Designed for Xbox

[Editor's note: This press release comes from the US division of Philips, so the news is more relevant to the USA.]

Envision Peripherals, Inc. (EPI), an affiliate of TPV Technology Limited (TPV) Philips' monitor license partner, announces the release of the world's first Designed for Xbox console gaming monitor. Philips Momentum Designed for Xbox console gaming monitors are built from the ground up to provide the ultimate experience for Xbox fans. These Designed for Xbox console gaming monitors set the standard for Xbox gaming. The inclusion of the new HDMI 2.1 spec now enables next-gen console gaming with 4K resolution and faster 120Hz refresh rates for ultra-clear and ultra-smooth gaming performance. Taking it the next level, TPV partnered with Xbox to tune these "Designed for Xbox" displays to deliver the optimal validated Xbox Series X performance from the moment you plug it in.

Unlike televisions, Philips Momentum gaming monitors are built for console gaming, with low latency and low lag as priorities to provide a much smoother, more realistic gaming experience. The series' low input lag is a great advantage when playing twitch-sensitive video games, allowing the input to register on the screen faster. The flagship 55" Philips Momentum (559M1RYV) will include a specially designed speaker enclosure from the engineers at Bowers & Wilkins, the British loudspeaker company globally renowned for their innovative designs and sound engineering, that completes the experience.
Designed for Xbox
This series of Philips Momentum monitors delivers Designed for Xbox validated performance with ultra-clear 4K resolution at a minimum 120Hz refresh rate, HDR support with DisplayHDR 1000, Variable Refresh Rate for smooth gaming and Always Low Latency gaming. The team has worked together to create Xbox Game Mode, which creates an exciting mode with specially tuned picture quality for Xbox. The monitors have been extensively tested, and validated by engineers at Microsoft and TPV to ensure perfect compatibility, while also meeting the high expectations that dedicated Xbox fans expect.

"At Xbox, we are always looking to give our fans choice in how, what and where they play their favorite games. Today, we're excited to announce our partnership with Philips to deliver the first Designed for Xbox monitor, giving fans a unique display with technology and features that provide the ultimate console gaming experience for Xbox Series X|S." - Matt Kesselring, Director of Xbox Hardware Partnerships.

"Philips Momentum broke new ground in console gaming as the first monitor to achieve VESA DisplayHDR 1000 certification. We are thrilled that the Momentum console gaming monitors will deliver a new standard of audio-visual experience that will bring out the very best in your Xbox." Chris Brown, Philips Monitors Global Product Marketing Lead at TPV.

Availability
Philips Momentum 55" 4K Designed for Xbox Console Gaming Monitor (559M1RYV) will be available on Amazon in the Summer of 2021 for $1,599.99 USD/CA.
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28 Comments on Philips Momentum, The World's First Monitor Designed for Xbox

#2
lynx29
sepheronxI could go for that
55" LG OLED only costs $1349 these days. better off with that imo. it enhances the gaming experience.
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mb194dc
I have the 558m1ry in my living room connected to HTPC, was on offer at scan couple of months ago for 900. It's pretty usable as a normal PC screen sitting 4 or 5 feet away. Didn't want OLED as concerned about screen burn in normal PC use.

Older model doesn't have HDMI 2.1 though and even on DP 1.4 can't do 120hz 10bit 4k, 98hz max at 10 bit due to cable bandwidth limit.
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lynx29
mb194dcI have the 558m1ry in my living room connected to HTPC, was on offer at scan couple of months ago for 900. It's pretty usable as a normal PC screen sitting 4 or 5 feet away. Didn't want OLED as concerned about screen burn in normal PC use.

Older model doesn't have HDMI 2.1 though and even on DP 1.4 can't do 120hz 10bit 4k, 98hz max at 10 bit due to cable bandwidth limit.
fair enough, burn in is in issue for PC. I think if one were to just do console gaming though, OLED is fine. I am hoping to get an OLED 55" in 1-2 years and a PS5 on the same day... its a couple years away though still.
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#5
n-ster
Is this just one size? The LG OLED @48" seemed like a size that's more manageable, though it looks like there isn't much benefit between the CX and C1... This looks like a sweet alternative, especially if it's priced at 1600$ Canadian, which would be equivalent to 1300$ US
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lynx29
n-sterIs this just one size? The LG OLED @48" seemed like a size that's more manageable, though it looks like there isn't much benefit between the CX and C1... This looks like a sweet alternative, especially if it's priced at 1600$ Canadian, which would be equivalent to 1300$ US
I don't know, if all you do is movies/tv shows and console games, I find it hard to beat LG OLED. No risk of burn-in with those 3 categories, not if your a normal user anyway. Regardless, any kind of innovation in the monitor segment is welcome
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#7
mb194dc
lynx29fair enough, burn in is in issue for PC. I think if one were to just do console gaming though, OLED is fine. I am hoping to get an OLED 55" in 1-2 years and a PS5 on the same day... its a couple years away though still.
Never understood why it's marketed as a console gaming screen, a 4k TV makes more sense.

It's just a really massive desktop monitor essentially with decent sound too. I'm waiting to get a graphics card that can do it justice, probably a 6800xt, eventually...

Using a wx2100 on DP and a gtx 960 on HDMI (in same machine) with it at the moment.

Need to get some proper HDR movies and things to see what it can do.
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#8
Tardian
Who is gaming at 4K @ 120fps? How? Is it materially better than 1080p @120fps? My OLED TVs can do 4K @ 120fps, but I can't get a PS5, and suitable GPUs are priced ridiculously due to mining.
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#9
lynx29
TardianWho is gaming at 4K @ 120fps? How? Is it materially better than 1080p @120fps? My OLED TVs can do 4K @ 120fps, but I can't get a PS5, and suitable GPUs are priced ridiculously due to mining.
PS5 will be in stock in due time, just be patient for a few more months. :toast:
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#12
mechtech
Expensive TV, but that TV and an Xbox together is still cheaper than a graphics card ;)
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#13
R-T-B
lynx29fair enough, burn in is in issue for PC.
I haven't really had an issue with standard PC usage and burn in on my b9, with just common sense like dark mode and a screensaver.

The bigger issue with LGs is they are presently suffering from freesync related near black flicker. It's sad.
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lynx29
R-T-BI haven't really had an issue with standard PC usage and burn in on my b9, with just common sense like dark mode and a screensaver.

The bigger issue with LGs is they are presently suffering from freesync related near black flicker. It's sad.
even the CX models suffer from this freesync flicker? @nguyen has a CX, can you confirm when you enable gsync/freesync you get flickering issues?
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#15
R-T-B
lynx29even the CX models suffer from this freesync flicker? @nguyen has a CX, can you confirm when you enable gsync/freesync you get flickering issues?
CX series has a firmware workaround. *9 series are totally screwed though.

I think a CX would be fine.
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#16
nguyen
The only problem with my CX is that watching movies on PC and fullscreen, there is some stutter that happen infrequently, maybe 24hz is just outside the comfortable range of VRR.
This doesn't happen with the Netflix app on the TV
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#17
lynx29
nguyenThe only problem with my CX is that watching movies on PC and fullscreen, there is some stutter that happen infrequently, maybe 24hz is just outside the comfortable range of VRR.
This doesn't happen with the Netflix app on the TV
LG fixed this in the C1 models, there is a new mode for watching 24hz content on the C1 models the CX doesn't get.

He has timestamps if you view it on YT:

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lexluthermiester
nguyenThe only problem with my CX is that watching movies on PC and fullscreen, there is some stutter that happen infrequently, maybe 24hz is just outside the comfortable range of VRR.
This doesn't happen with the Netflix app on the TV
That's not the fault of the display itself. That is a config/driver problem..
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#19
Valantar
Now could they please get their thumbs out of their proverbial rear ends and release the 32" 4K monitor they announced at... was it Cpmoutex last year? Yes, it was officially delayed to get HDMI 2.1 support, but it was re-announced at CES this year. That's quite a while ago now.
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#20
Chomiq
ValantarNow could they please get their thumbs out of their proverbial rear ends and release the 32" 4K monitor they announced at... was it Cpmoutex last year? Yes, it was officially delayed to get HDMI 2.1 support, but it was re-announced at CES this year. That's quite a while ago now.
That monitor was initially announced back in September 2019.

Last update we had has announced the HDMI 2.1 support together with new release date set to "early 2021". I guess we're already past this date and there's been another delay.

329M1RV was released in China but unlike 328M1R it is IPS instead of VA and has 400 nitts max brightness instead of 600 nitts.
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lynx29LG fixed this in the C1 models, there is a new mode for watching 24hz content on the C1 models the CX doesn't get.

He has timestamps if you view it on YT:

There's no "fixing" the stutter on any modern TV without some sort of motion interpolation (and that's what LG is doing with C1 and G1 with the "new" preset that has very minor SOE). You could still probably achieve similar results with USER settings on older models. Stutter is worse on OLEDs because their pixel response is much higher, slow response of VA helps clean it up a little. I think only CRTs and plasmas handled it better.
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Valantar
ChomiqThere's no "fixing" the stutter on any modern TV without some sort of motion interpolation (and that's what LG is doing with C1 and G1 with the "new" preset that has very minor SOE). You could still probably achieve similar results with USER settings on older models. Stutter is worse on OLEDs because their pixel response is much higher, slow response of VA helps clean it up a little. I think only CRTs and plasmas handled it better.
They might use some sort of frame doubling tech, i.e. running 24Hz content at 48Hz (which is definitely within the VRR range). Should be trivial to implement with zero downsides. Displaying the same frame twice in a row isn't hard.
ChomiqThat monitor was initially announced back in September 2019.

Last update we had has announced the HDMI 2.1 support together with new release date set to "early 2021". I guess we're already past this date and there's been another delay.

329M1RV was released in China but unlike 328M1R it is IPS instead of VA and has 400 nitts max brightness instead of 600 nitts.
Yeah, it's been ages. I distinctly remember reading a press release from CES 2021 mentioning Q1 2021, but they seem to have scrubbed every trace of that off the internet, and the only thing left is "early 2021", which is of course also long gone. 329m1rv only has HDMI 2.0 btw, which is a deal breaker for me. I'm guessing there are supply chain component shortages (HDMI 2.1-compatible display controllers would be a likely culprit, seeing how there aren't many of them, they are in demand among TV makers, and they likely need a relatively new process node), but the least they could do is make an announcement.

Of course the Viewsonic Elite XG320U is similarly delayed, as seems to be the case for the Acer monitors announced ... last fall?

The near complete lack of HDMI 2.1-compatible monitors this long after consoles and GPUs supporting the connector arrived is damn depressing. And them sticking a DP port and USB(-C) hub into a 55" TV isn't really improving things.
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Chomiq
ValantarThey might use some sort of frame doubling tech, i.e. running 24Hz content at 48Hz (which is definitely within the VRR range). Should be trivial to implement with zero downsides. Displaying the same frame twice in a row isn't hard.

Yeah, it's been ages. I distinctly remember reading a press release from CES 2021 mentioning Q1 2021, but they seem to have scrubbed every trace of that off the internet, and the only thing left is "early 2021", which is of course also long gone. 329m1rv only has HDMI 2.0 btw, which is a deal breaker for me. I'm guessing there are supply chain component shortages (HDMI 2.1-compatible display controllers would be a likely culprit, seeing how there aren't many of them, they are in demand among TV makers, and they likely need a relatively new process node), but the least they could do is make an announcement.

Of course the Viewsonic Elite XG320U is similarly delayed, as seems to be the case for the Acer monitors announced ... last fall?

The near complete lack of HDMI 2.1-compatible monitors this long after consoles and GPUs supporting the connector arrived is damn depressing. And them sticking a DP port and USB(-C) hub into a 55" TV isn't really improving things.
On top of that those that are announced cost as much or even more than a 48" C1 OLED.
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#23
Franzen4Real
lynx2955" LG OLED only costs $1349 these days. better off with that imo. it enhances the gaming experience.
I have to agree. For me, there is no going back to LED in the foreseeable future. Especially this monitor for the price they are asking.
lynx29fair enough, burn in is in issue for PC. I think if one were to just do console gaming though, OLED is fine.
R-T-BI haven't really had an issue with standard PC usage and burn in on my b9, with just common sense like dark mode and a screensaver.
I think you can eliminate the large majority of burn in related issues being mindful of static images with high brightness and also certain colors. I use dark mode and an autohide task bar, along with Wallpaper Engine for my desktop back ground to try and avoid as many static pixels as possible (combined with the tv's built in screensaver). Also consider the panel tech and the tv's software for mitigating burning/image retention will advance as each new generation is developed. No issues as of yet on a CX, but then again I do not clock high hours of continuous game play on a regular basis on that set up.
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#24
sepheronx
lynx2955" LG OLED only costs $1349 these days. better off with that imo. it enhances the gaming experience.
While I thought about that, this tv is cheaper here in Canada than the LG is. By like over $500
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Valantar
Franzen4RealI have to agree. For me, there is no going back to LED in the foreseeable future. Especially this monitor for the price they are asking.



I think you can eliminate the large majority of burn in related issues being mindful of static images with high brightness and also certain colors. I use dark mode and an autohide task bar, along with Wallpaper Engine for my desktop back ground to try and avoid as many static pixels as possible (combined with the tv's built in screensaver). Also consider the panel tech and the tv's software for mitigating burning/image retention will advance as each new generation is developed. No issues as of yet on a CX, but then again I do not clock high hours of continuous game play on a regular basis on that set up.
No amount of software can overcome issues like static icons or UI elements - pixel shifting won't help when the static elements are 100+ pixels in size. Unless, of course, you're willing to accept those elements being auto-dimmed, which will make everything look like a mess, undermining the value of the OLED. WOLED goes a long way towards mitigating burn-in, but it still isn't perfect.
ChomiqOn top of that those that are announced cost as much or even more than a 48" C1 OLED.
Yeah. The great thing about the Momentum and the Viewsonic is that they're expected to be relatively affordable (IIRC ~$600). I don't want a 48" monitor, especially one that acts like a TV (i.e. doesn't switch off when the PC goes to sleep etc.), but I'm not paying more than a 48" premium OLED TV for a monitor either.
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