P4-630I think so, but I meant more like it's the last CPU gen I'm able to upgrade to on my Z690 platform.

Hi,
Waiting a while prices will drop
Never good to get first release you only pay premium but this applies to more than cpu's

GPU's are getting better priced atm once 40 series drops 30 will be looking better so yeah I'd save the money.

“While the previous DDR4 testing used modules running at 3200 MT/s, the DDR5 testing uses 5200 MT/s rated DRAM with unknown timings and setup.”

So basically null and void??

The King20% MT increase with DDR5 is nice!

It must be said that 3200 DDR4 is the lower bandwidth end of DDR4 you can get 4000/5000+ DDR4 kits today. that may close the some of the gap/performance to DDR5.

Could be because 3200 is the highest official jedec std for ddr4?

Hyderzgood to see DDR5 platform is starting to mature and gaining more performance

I think the performance of the DDR5 RAM sticks themselves has always been that leap forward that was promised. If you get a 32gb kit of DDR5 with SK Hynix ICs, it will easily overclock to 6400-6600 MT/s with pretty tight timings if you have a good enough CPU+mobo and at those speeds your bandwidth will be over 100,000mbps for read/write/copy and your latency could be under 60ns. So the bandwidth is a massive increase over DDR4 and the latency is already at parity with mid-high tier DDR4 kits.

It's the CPUs themselves that haven't really been able to take advantage of DDR5 because the current memory controllers aren't strong enough. For example, my i5 12600k can boot with my Hynix kit at 6400 MT/s, but I can't get it to run stable above 6000 MT/s. It could be my CPU limiting me, but my motherboard could also limiting me because I have board with 4 DIMM slots. Either way, both of these issues are bound to go away with newer generations of CPUs.

All that being said, DDR5 has been better than DDR4 since Alder Lake came to market. To get the absolute best performance out of Alder Lake, you need DDR5. It just didn't make sense from a value standpoint for the mainstream market.

EDIT: I just realized you said "DDR5 platform", not any specific component. :oops:

TiggerAnother day another scintillating Crackong comment

I think the people with 690 DDR 5 boards are certainly going to see the best of Raptor Lake.

this definitely makes me feel a little less silly for spending extra on a DDR5 board

Let's pray DDR5 prices come down then.

Maybe AMD knew what they were doing all the time by going DDR5 only. I would only get the next gen cpu's with DDR5 even if it costs more. It's not like you a rebuilding every 6 months (or if you are WTaF!). 20% in M/T is huge. Can't wait for this next gen as I havean old Zen 1 system I need to replace. I'm leaning towards Zen 4 with v-cache as AM5 will be around possibly until Zen 7 ships. If Intel would keep sockets for 3 generations I'd be more inclined to keep them. However, if by miracle RL is massively faster than Zen 4 I'll get one. AMD is still confident they will take the M/T crown and with clocks hitting 5.85GHz they will be very competitive on S/T and gaming.

ThomasKLet's pray DDR5 prices come down then.

Depends what part of the world your in, over here in Australia they certainly have since launched late last year.

AlwaysHopeDepends what part of the world your in, over here in Australia they certainly have since launched late last year.

Prices will come down after there's mainstream adoption of a certain technology. Intel was the first one to embrace it, although not fully, since 12th gen has both a DDR4 and DDR5 memory controller. AMD will exclusively support DDR5, which will bring prices down even more, worldwide.

AlwaysHopeDepends what part of the world your in, over here in Australia they certainly have since launched late last year.

I'm in Australia and prices can always be a lot better. Also I'm not getting anything under 6600MT/s CL36.

Minus InfinityI'm in Australia and prices can always be a lot better. Also I'm not getting anything under 6600MT/s CL36.

Scored a 32GB kit of 4800MHz DDR5 for under $200 brand new! you just got to be in the right place at the right time.

It's ok AMD going DDR5 only, but think of the AMD users that have DDR4 AM3 setups. They will all have to ditch their AM4 setups completely, board, CPU, ram to switch to AM5. It's not just about cost, if you can afford it, it's about selling off your old rig if you cant afford more than one rig to switch to AM5. I did say ages ago that when AM5 comes out, the market may be flooded with DDR4 and AM4 setups from those wanting to switch to AM5, we will see. It's great for you guys that piss money as you will just buy a top end DDR5 AM5 setup with no thought to the cost.

Apart from the enthusiast users, no one else is going to sell their am4 setup so easily.
The pronsumers already have a 5950X and the gamers have or will get a 5800X3D. The raptor lake and zen 5 have to bring an unseen before huge performance bump over the aforementioned to justify the cost of replacing everything.

But if the leaks are correct the next i5 tier cpus will be on par or better than the best cpus in AM4 combined.

gffermariApart from the enthusiast users, no one else is going to sell their am4 setup so easily.
The pronsumers already have a 5950X and the gamers have or will get a 5800X3D. The raptor lake and zen 5 have to bring an unseen before huge performance bump over the aforementioned to justify the cost of replacing everything.

But if the leaks are correct the next i5 tier cpus will be on par or better than the best cpus in AM4 combined.

Well AM5/Raptor Lake releases will certainly be something to look on with interest.

I may get a cheap(if possible) AM5 setup to mess with, but don't think i will sell my z690/12700k setup, as i can just drop in a 13700k for a bump up. I may do though if AM5 turns out to be that good, i don't give a crap if my system is AMD or Intel.

TiggerIt's ok AMD going DDR5 only,

I think so too, less chances of bugs in the platform.
But I have a different perspective; when AM5 launches, remaining AM4 products will probably get a nice discount, plus DDR4 is already cheap. So with both old AM4 products and "old" Alder Lake products potentially discounted, there will be a great chance for many budget gamers to get a kick-ass CPU for cheap.
And for gaming purposes, any such CPU will probably be good enough for 5+ years, so "upgradability" for CPU and RAM isn't really that big of a deal.

Tiggerbut think of the AMD users that have DDR4 AM3 setups. They will all have to ditch their AM4 setups completely, board, CPU, ram to switch to AM5. It's not just about cost, if you can afford it, it's about selling off your old rig if you cant afford more than one rig to switch to AM5.

The resale value of anything older than three years would be miniscule, and probably have more value as a spare PC or giving it away to a relative or friend. Not to mention a spare PC can still be a decent gaming PC for a guest to play a multiplayer game, and as the new PC gets a new GPU down the road, this can also trickle down to the spare PC. ;)

Hello, can someone help me? I am building new pc, I waiting for new raptor lake processors. I already bought 2x16GB DDR5 6000Mhz RAM but heard that alder lake will support 5600Mhz DDR5 RAM, do you guys think is that a problem for me or it will work together without problems? Sorry for bad english, have a nice day.

Levrone1995Hello, can someone help me? I am building new pc, I waiting for new raptor lake processors. I already bought 2x16GB DDR5 6000Mhz RAM but heard that alder lake will support 5600Mhz DDR5 RAM, do you guys think is that a problem for me or it will work together without problems? Sorry for bad english, have a nice day.

Alder lake supports all DDR5 speeds, it just depends on the motherboard, check the motherboard memory QVL, so you know for sure the memory you want runs at it's rated speed on that particular board.

P4-630Alder lake supports all DDR5 speeds, it just depends on the motherboard, check the motherboard memory QVL, so you know for sure the memory you want runs at it's rated speed on that particular board.

I have MSI MPG Z690 EDGE WIFI, which supports:

• DDR5 MEMORY

6400+(OC) , 6200(OC) , 6000(OC) , 5800(OC) , 5600(JEDEC) , 5400(JEDEC) , 5200(JEDEC) , 5000(JEDEC) , 4800(JEDEC) MHz

It should work I think, thank you.

Levrone1995I have MSI MPG Z690 EDGE WIFI, which supports:

• DDR5 MEMORY

6400+(OC) , 6200(OC) , 6000(OC) , 5800(OC) , 5600(JEDEC) , 5400(JEDEC) , 5200(JEDEC) , 5000(JEDEC) , 4800(JEDEC) MHz

It should work I think, thank you.

Check the memory QVL:
www.msi.com/Motherboard/MPG-Z690-EDGE-WIFI/support#mem

P4-630Check the memory QVL:
www.msi.com/Motherboard/MPG-Z690-EDGE-WIFI/support#mem

Okay I found that RAM I buyed is not supported with my motherboard. Thank you so much for help.