Thursday, October 13th 2022

NVIDIA Removes Hashrate Limiter for RTX 30-series LHR GPUs in the Latest Driver

In a last-ditch effort to clear inventory of its GeForce RTX 30-series "Ampere" graphics cards, NVIDIA has reportedly removed the hashrate limiter in the latest GeForce 522.25 drivers, without mentioning it anywhere in the driver's release notes. A Redditor and GeForce RTX 3080 Ti owner by the username "Timbers007" rested that their card, which launched exclusively as LHR-enabled graphics cards (with no RTX 3080 Ti cards without LHR in circulation); is now achieving double its usual hashrates when benchmarked with ethminer. It's able to put out 112 MH/s, a hashrate only possible with mining software that circumvents the LHR limiter, such as NiceHash or NBMiner.

In the thick of the graphics card shortage in 2020-21, as crypto currency miners were buying up inventory of gaming graphics cards through sophisticated retail bots; NVIDIA attempted to sour the milk for miners by introducing LHR (lite hashrate), a supposedly hardware-level limitation that cripples the mining performance of the GPU. This failed to improve things as NVIDIA accidentally released drivers without the hashrate limiter early on and redacted them, but not before they spread among miners. It was only a titanic crash in crypto-currency values, and the recent Ethereum merge that killed GPU-accelerated mining, which arrested demand, bringing RTX 30-series GPUs to prices more acceptable to gamers, as miners began flooding the market with their used GPUs at much lower prices. Will this improve sales of the RTX 30-series? Unlikely. Miners with RTX 30-series LHR graphics cards who already had the hacks to circumvent the limiter, are dumping their cards.
Sources: VideoCardz, Timbers007 (Reddit)
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62 Comments on NVIDIA Removes Hashrate Limiter for RTX 30-series LHR GPUs in the Latest Driver

#26
Dirt Chip
Probably the "NV move" of the year...
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#27
Chomiq
There's also sometimes significant increase in performance on 30-series in some DX12 titles:

*google translated*
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#28
Unregistered
nice, now some stupid miner can pay me 1000$ for my gpu in the next mining craziness. It has worked on the last 2 :D
#29
Blaylock
Nvidia had planned on doing this all along. Add in the self-inflicted supply shortage of 40 series and this is how Nvidia sells the overstock of 30 series cards.
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#30
TheoneandonlyMrK
Dirt ChipProbably the "NV move" of the year...
Dick move more like, it's so irrelevant now I think it a waste of news space.

The fact they think this will sell cards makes them look idiotic and out of touch.

This won't shift a single GPU since mining is still dead and I know because I KNOW not think.
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#31
Legacy-ZA
CrackongWell well
Another lie? It can't be! Noooooo! /s

G-Sync, DLSS etc etc. lol when will people learn... wait for it, wait for it, DLSS 3.0... soon...

On a side note, I wonder if this is why we get a little extra DX12 performance?
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#32
TheoneandonlyMrK
Legacy-ZAAnother lie? It can't be! Noooooo! /s

G-Sync, DLSS etc etc. lol when will people learn... wait for it, wait for it, DLSS 3.0... soon...

On a side note, I wonder if this is why we get a little extra DX12 performance?
That Dx12 performance boost shouldn't be tied.
Nvidia Said LHR ONLY affected one type of Hashing algorithm so someone either chatted total balls Or it's coincidental.

According to other sites All RTX cards got a Dx12 boost from the latest drivers.
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#33
Dirt Chip
TheoneandonlyMrKDick move
It's basically mean the same thing ;)
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#34
Space Lynx
Astronaut
Crackonga supposedly hardware-level limitation

Well well
Indeed. lmao

Nvidia can eat shit.
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#35
Moofachuka
Next driver, unlock DLSS 3 and AV1 for 30 series? It'll help clear some of their inventory...
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#36
Ruru
Trepie
How I wasn't surprised at all that the "LHR" was only a software-limited thing.
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#37
Arkz
igralec84Nice, you can now mine at a loss while having up to date drivers to play the newest games!
You already could. Pretty much every miner can bypass the limiter since like February. Latest drivers weren't an issue.
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#38
cvaldes
LenneHow I wasn't surprised at all that the "LHR" was only a software-limited thing.
There should be no surprise.

When NVIDIA accidentally leaked out an unaltered driver to developers that didn't have the LHR limiting code activated, miners were able to use this discovery to create their own workarounds for later drivers that did have the LHR enabling code.

The actual LHR limiter is in hardware. Remember that the initial version of the RTX 3080 did not have this code and ETH mining was never throttled by any driver software in these early units. Same with the 3090 cards which also never had LHR. They mined at full speed too.

Internally NVIDIA probably never used the LHR-blocking drivers in house which led to them fumbling the ball by letting it accidentally leak out just that one instance.

NVIDIA simply removed the software switch to enable LHR in the cards that have the hardware code with the 522.25 driver release.
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#39
igralec84
ArkzYou already could. Pretty much every miner can bypass the limiter since like February. Latest drivers weren't an issue.
Everything over 512.77 enabled LHR again, at least for ETH. The LHR unlock came out in May, which is when those drivers were released. Nvidia quickly "fixed" LHR unlock with the next version.
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#41
igralec84
Unlaunched to be relaunched as the... 4070 12gb! Followed by the 4070 8gb.
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#42
cvaldes
igralec84Unlaunched to be relaunched as the... 4070 12gb! Followed by the 4070 8gb.
Nah, my guess is that 4080 12GB will end up being 4070 Super or Ti (12GB) with a separate vanilla 4070 (8GB).
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#43
lexluthermiester
Xex360Stupid decision to begin with, why cripple the product while not reducing the price to reflect this.
You seem to have missed some historical context.
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#44
Arkz
igralec84Everything over 512.77 enabled LHR again, at least for ETH. The LHR unlock came out in May, which is when those drivers were released. Nvidia quickly "fixed" LHR unlock with the next version.
Oh I didn't know that, I use a 3080FE so never paid much attention to the LHR sitch. Though them doing this now when ETH is PoS and there's nothing else worth mining at all right now, even with dirt cheap electric. Like turning up to a party after everyone's gone.
cvaldesNah, my guess is that 4080 12GB will end up being 4070 Super or Ti (12GB) with a separate vanilla 4070 (8GB).
Bit late for 70 series cards to still be 8GB IMO. I think 10GB min, 8GB for 4060. Though really, I feel they're lagging behind a bit with VRAM size compared to AMD.
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#45
cvaldes
ArkzBit late for 70 series cards to still be 8GB IMO. I think 10GB min, 8GB for 4060. Though really, I feel they're lagging behind a bit with VRAM size compared to AMD.
As I wrote in another discussion I didn't say that NVIDIA releasing a 4070 with 8GB VRAM is best. I just think that's what NVIDIA will do.

Two different concepts.

What convinces you to believe that NVIDIA will do what's "best" for gamers here in late 2022?
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#47
Arkz
cvaldesAs I wrote in another discussion I didn't say that NVIDIA releasing a 4070 with 8GB VRAM is best. I just think that's what NVIDIA will do.

Two different concepts.

What convinces you to believe that NVIDIA will do what's "best" for gamers here in late 2022?
Nothng? I said IMO. They've never cared. Look at the 3080 10GB. They cheaped out on 2 of the 1GB modules.
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#48
Ruru
Trepie
ArkzNothng? I said IMO. They've never cared. Look at the 3080 10GB. They cheaped out on 2 of the 1GB modules.
I'd call it milking. Nothing is a better cash-grab than sell a ton of one SKU, then release an improved model (or two in this case, the 12GB and Ti) later.
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#49
cvaldes
ArkzNothng? I said IMO. They've never cared. Look at the 3080 10GB. They cheaped out on 2 of the 1GB modules.
Oh, I'm quite sure the BOM for the 3080 10GB model was very deliberately chosen.

After all, they pair these GPUs in the lab with different combinations of VRAM from different vendors at different memory bandwidths, at different speeds, etc.

And from all those experiments, they come up with one or two combinations that will make it as a final product.
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#50
Arkz
cvaldesOh, I'm quite sure the BOM for the 3080 10GB model was very deliberately chosen.

After all, they pair these GPUs in the lab with different combinations of VRAM from different vendors at different memory bandwidths, at different speeds, etc.

And from all those experiments, they come up with one or two combinations that will make it as a final product.
I mean the pcb does have two blank spots where the other 2 chips go. And they did then release the updated one with 12GB, probably when memory prices started to drop more, to make it look more attractive to buyers late into the gen.
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