Friday, October 14th 2022

NVIDIA Cancels GeForce RTX 4080 12GB, To Relaunch it With a Different Name

NVIDIA has decided to cancel the November 2022 launch of the GeForce RTX 4080 12 GB. The company will relaunch the card under a different name, though it didn't announce the replacement name just yet. The naming of the RTX 4080 12 GB was cause for much controversy. With the RTX 40-series "Ada," NVIDIA debuted three SKUs—the already launched RTX 4090 which is in stores right now; the RTX 4080 16 GB, and the RTX 4080 12 GB. Memory size notwithstanding, the RTX 4080 12 GB is a vastly different graphics card from the RTX 4080 16 GB.

The RTX 4080 12 GB and RTX 4080 16 GB didn't even share the same silicon. While the 16 GB model is based on the larger "AD103" silicon, has 9,728 CUDA cores, and a 256-bit wide GDDR6X memory bus; the RTX 4080 12 GB is based on the smaller "AD104" silicon, has just 7,680 CUDA cores (21% fewer CUDA cores); and a meager 192-bit wide GDDR6X memory bus. This had the potential to confuse buyers, especially given the $900 price. With criticism spanning not just social media but also bad press, NVIDIA decided to pull the plug on the RTX 4080 12 GB. The company will likely re-brand it as a successor to the RTX 3070 Ti, although then it will have a hard time justifying its $900 price-tag. The RTX 4080 16 GB, however, is on track for a November 16 availability date, with a baseline price of $1,200.
Source: NVIDIA
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423 Comments on NVIDIA Cancels GeForce RTX 4080 12GB, To Relaunch it With a Different Name

#176
R0H1T
Alternate headline ~ Nvidia unleashes the beast within, unlocks full potential of RTX 4060 :cool:
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#177
Dazzm8
Just call it a 4070 like everyone said nvidia you stupid pricks.
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#178
lexluthermiester
btarunrNVIDIA has decided to cancel the November 2022 launch of the GeForce RTX 4080 12 GB.
Change the name to something like RTX4060ti and drop the pricetag to match and this would be a great card!
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#179
TheDeeGee
Remember how we had GT, GTS and GTX?

So why not the RTS 4080.
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#180
wolf
Better Than Native
Minus InfinityLOL we had clowns on this forum praising the 4070 Ti in disguise (as I've been calling it since day one) and saying it was awesome. yada yada Ngreedia yada yada
Ive yet to see a single person praise the 4080 12gb (4070 ti in disguise), are you sure it was this forum? This forum certainly swings pro AMD anti nvidia.
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#181
ARF
TheDeeGeeRemember how we had GT, GTS and GTX?

So why not the RTS 4080.
Why should they insist that it has to be an 80 card and not a 60 card?
wolfIve yet to see a single person praise the 4080 12gb (4070 ti in disguise), are you sure it was this forum? This forum certainly swings pro AMD anti nvidia.
No, people are simply objective, while nvidia cheats.
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#182
wolf
Better Than Native
ARFNo, people are simply objective, while nvidia cheats.
I don't think that covers the entirety of nvidia, their business, their products across all segments, their software across all segments and so on, and I think that says more about you than anyone else.

Liking and enjoying certain nvidia products does not require a departure from objectivity.

Objectively, the 4080 12gb was (set to be) an outright garbage product, and like I said, I haven't seen a single person defend it, and I'd be ultra surprised to see anyone on TPU defend it, given the user base here, especially the vocal ones.
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#183
lexluthermiester
TheDeeGeeRemember how we had GT, GTS and GTX?

So why not the RTS 4080.
Nope. The stated specs don't qualify. RTS-4070 might work.
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#184
Dirt Chip
ARFThe performance jump from the older generation top dog RX 5700 XT to RX 6900 XT was 101% in a single move.



AMD can do it.
Not quite: 5700=>6900 is like 3070=>4090 (more than 120% increase) - 2 tier up.
With 5xxx series, AMD top was mid-tier gpus so compere it to next-gen enthusiast tier is dubious.
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#185
N/A
they simply unnanounced it, now we have to unsee and unhear.
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#186
Vayra86
N3M3515Nobody seems to realize this.
Oh? Its clear as day price makes the product and Ada isnt moving things forward as of yet. Its just a way to extend old pricing and the Ampere product stack at this moment. Totally uninteresting from a buy POV.
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#187
Hyderz
Bring back the LE moniker :D RTX4080LE
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#188
medi01
TheDeeGeeRemember how we had GT, GTS and GTX?

So why not the RTS 4080.
I mean "because it is much slower" would sound plausible, but I also remember 1060 3GB. So, yeah...
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#189
Vayra86
HyderzBring back the LE moniker :D RTX4080LE
I would pay to say I've got Le graphics card tbh :D
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#190
pavle
HyderzBring back the LE moniker :D RTX4080LE
Or if we compare it at the extreme of GeForce FX 5900 vs Radeon 9800, the GeForce RTX 4080 XT (12GB); The XT FX 5900 was 400/700 (core/mem) instead of 450/850.
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#191
phill
I'm glad for not buying any new GPUs this time around.....
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#192
ARF
wolfI don't think that covers the entirety of nvidia, their business, their products across all segments, their software across all segments and so on, and I think that says more about you than anyone else.

Objectively, the 4080 12gb was (set to be) an outright garbage product
Well, I have the impression that nvidia as a whole is a garbage business. They certainly broke many ethical and ordinary laws.
Don't wanna list them but there are some:

- cheats in 3DMark Nvidia accused of cheating in 3DMark 03 - GameSpot
- lower image quality - cheating in textures resolution resulting in higher performance to maintain competitiveness with ATi and AMD Radeon Question: Is nvidia cheating on image quality? Can someone confirm this? : Amd (reddit.com)
- nvidia partner program - illegal way to cut AMD from partnership with select OEMs GeForce Partner Program - Wikipedia
- GTX 970 3.5 GB marketed as 4 GB Nvidia settles class-action lawsuit over GTX 970 VRAM | KitGuru
- EVGA leaves nvidia EVGA Quits NVIDIA | Electronic Design
- XFX leaves nvidia XFX officially stops doing Nvidia (fudzilla.com)
- RTX 3080 10 GB controversy and cheating RTX 3080 VRAM usage warnings and the issue with VRAM pool sizes: the compromise of 4K gaming | ResetEra
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#193
[XC] Oj101
Dirt ChipSo many 4080-12GB carton boxes with wrong letters on it in a snap.
What a shitstorm.
I imagine that they will have a sticker over the old labeling.
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#194
sephiroth117
neatfeatguyI've had many driver issues with Nvidia over the years.

* Broken video playback in multiple formats; while playing games or streaming/playing videos
* 2nd monitor never waking up from sleep. Only resolution was a system reboot.
* Green pixilated shadows
* crash to desktop
* BSOD
* games not launching
* games that ran just fine before, but now run like crap
* one annoying issue I had for a while was lights shining through other objects. Examples would be the sun, as it would pass behind a mountain (or a building), the sun would shine right through it. Torches or street lights would shine through walls and so on. This issue actually plagued me over a handful of driver versions.

Those are just the ones that I still remember, I'm sure there are more. No side is perfect and to keep on telling people that AMD drivers are unstable, that just means you've been lucky enough to not have to deal with bad Nvidia drivers. Also, not all drivers work with all hardware/software configurations. I've learned some time ago that if I find a driver that works, I stick with it and I don't update my driver unless I absolutely have to (new generation of a GPU or a new game that requires the most recent driver to run).
I'm sorry but I choose according to my own experience. If I've had 2 very bad AMD experience I'm not going to pick it a third time (unless RDNA 3 is good and even more stable)
I have 0 doubts Nvidia has its share of issues, just that as someone who had both GPUs, my experience with Nvidia was far better.

just like Nvidia lost a customer with your issues, AMD lost a customer, me, with their drivers.
DavenThere have been no significant tech reviewer comments about AMD driver failures. Only reason anyone thinks AMD drivers are bad is anonymous internet posts like this. Nothing you said can be verified but it will still make someone casually reading these forums think twice and continue to perpetuate this myth.
This is very disappointing take.

So my opinion is probably false because can't be verified and is thus a myth, but your opinion that AMD is OK is the truth. Your post is anonymous too and someone causally reading you will believe AMD has 0 drivers issues no ?
I stated my experience with AMD, period. It's not universal, pretty sure many have great experience with AMD, I didn't.
Which customer is going to pick AMD a third time after being disappointed by the first two times ?
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#195
ARF
sephiroth117I'm sorry but I choose according to my own experience. If I've had 2 very bad AMD experience I'm not going to pick it a third time (unless RDNA 3 is good and even more stable)
I have 0 doubts Nvidia has its share of issues, just that as someone who had both GPUs, my experience with Nvidia was far better.

just like Nvidia lost a customer with your issues, AMD lost a customer, me, with their drivers.
I suspect your RX 580 was defective on a hardware level, nothing to do with the software from AMD. Or broken Windows and browser.
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#196
Dirt Chip
[XC] Oj101I imagine that they will have a sticker over the old labeling.
Also on the pcb?
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#197
64K
The 12GB 4080 was stupid anyway. Nvidia will launch the 4080 16GB and then launch the upgraded 4080 later on.

EDIT: This 4080 12 GB will most likely be named the 4070 or 4070 TI which it should of been to begin with.
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#198
remunramu
They tried to test people stupidity, if people were willing to pay $2k+ for 3080 during the GPU crisis why not $900 4070. That is also the possible cause why Ngreedia charge 4080 16gb with $1200 for this gen.
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#199
N3M3515
64KThe 12GB 4080 was stupid anyway. Nvidia will launch the 4080 16GB and then launch the upgraded 4080 later on.

EDIT: This 4080 12 GB will most likely be named the 4060 Ti or 4070 which it should of been to begin with.
Fixed.
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#200
ARF
remunramuThey tried to test people stupidity, if people were willing to pay $2k+ for 3080 during the GPU crisis why not $900 4070. That is also the possible cause why Ngreedia charge 4080 16gb with $1200 for this gen.
Maybe nvidia had a positive intention, to soften the outcry because of the elevated pricings:



But why didn't they rename the 16 GB card as RTX 4080 Ti? While leaving the 12 GB as the vanilla RTX 4080? :confused:
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