Tuesday, February 4th 2025

AMD Radeon RX 9070 Series Launch Event Slated for Late-February

AMD is planning a media event to formally launch the Radeon RX 9070 series next-generation graphics cards some time in late-February 2024, VideoCardz reports. The company could simultaneously announce the flagship Radeon RX 9070 XT, its second-best RX 9070, and new stuff on the software side, such as FSR 4, although availability dates of each could vary. Availability of at least the top RX 9070 XT could be expected in March, the report says. Both the RX 9070 XT and RX 9070 are being prepared by AMD as performance-segment products, where they probably go up against SKUs from NVIDIA's GeForce RTX 5070 series. Given the rather minor performance uplift the RTX 5080 yielded over its previous generation predecessor, the performance segment is in for some competition.

The Radeon RX 9070 XT and RX 9070 are both based on the 4 nm "Navi 48" silicon, which reportedly features 64 compute units for 4,096 stream processors, and a new generation AI accelerator that's both faster and more capable than the one introduced with RDNA 3. There is expected to be a significant uplift in the ray tracing performance, too, reducing the performance cost of enabling ray tracing in games. FSR 4 is expected to leverage the AI acceleration capabilities of RDNA 4 for its super resolution algorithm. Both SKUs are expected to have all 64 CU enabled, but differ in clock speeds. Both are expected to feature 16 GB of older GDDR6 memory across a 256-bit wide memory interface. As for the media event, we gathered from our post-CES roundtable with AMD that the event will at least be an online presentation.
Source: VideoCardz
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99 Comments on AMD Radeon RX 9070 Series Launch Event Slated for Late-February

#76
AusWolf
RandallFlaggThe 7800 XT has the same mid-grade Navi 32 XL chip that the 7700 XT has.
The 7800 XT is the Navi 32 XT, the 7700 XT is the XL. The 6700 XT is the Navi 22 XT. Speaking about model names...
RandallFlaggBut again, you're doing exactly what I said which is looking at a spec sheet and not the market positioning in terms of performance and price.
I was talking about a $479 card (6700 XT) vs a $499 card (7800 XT). How was I not looking at price? :confused:

The 7700 XT and 7800 XT are very similar in both specs and price, so I see not much point in discussing them separately.
RandallFlaggBut even if we play that game, I think it's pretty obvious that these 2 cards are the same tier (6700 XT vs 7700 XT):

And how is the 7800 XT not in the same tier? It's $50 away from the 7700 XT.
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#77
EmmanuelMar
Como bien sabeis AMD esta fusionado su gama de gpu CDNA(servidores/estaciones de trabajo/supercomputadoras(el gran capitan) y gpu Radeon.Los motivos son muy simples el primero es la diferencia en hardware y software y la retrocompatibilidad de dicho hardware y software,ademas de la falta de eficiencia y el gasto de recursos humanos en 2 versiones que uniendolos en una sola directriz serán mas eficientes,menos costosos y tendran mas recursos de todo tipo,asunto que no se puede lograr cuando tienes la gama de gpu dividida como actualmente. Esta fusión se terminara en 2026 con una nomenclatura UDNA. Mientras AMD ya dijo que no va pelear al menos de momento por las gpu mas de 1000 Euro/dolar. UDNA.
Su interés es el mercado de baja,media,alta pero no el elitista,porque los numeros de ventas reales son la gama baja/media y alta.Steam lo confirma lo mas vendido son series 60 2060/3060/4060.
Las rx 9070 y 9070XT están orientadas como bien indican a pelear contra la serie 70/70 TI nvidia.Segun la optimización del juego una 9070XT en unos juegos dara + y se equiparara a una 4080 en otros se quedara a la par de una 5070 o 4070/ti.
Estos gpu es una ruptura en hardware y software con lo anterior.
Son gpu rediseñados desde 0 en arquitectura por ello ofrecen un mejor rendimiento con ray tracing a las versiones anteriores.
Fsr4 con todas sus caracteristicas nuevas incluida la IA fueron diseñadas para este hardware porque es el unico capaz para desarrollar la potencia completa de FSR4.
De hecho estos 9070 y 9070XT son menos potentes que un 7900XTX pero ofrecen un rendimiento en trazado de rayos similar al 7900XTX que es donde se le da mal a la XTX. Por lo tanto existe un equilibrio mejor entre el rendimiento nativo +fsr4+ trazado de rayos.
Los minoristas tienen stock, tienen un veto de confidencialidad y hasta que AMD diga que se puede lanzar el producto ellos tienen que respetar, además falta aclarar el precio final entre AMD y los distribuidores a falta de conocer los precios de nvidia para la 5070/5070TI.

Amd presentara precios mas bajos que Nvidia.

El evento de AMD se espera para 20 de febrero si bien se conoce que las gpu AMD no saldran a venta hasta el 6 de marzo.Salvo que nvidia aun siga sin aclarar el precio de las 5070.....
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#78
ToxicTaZ
EmmanuelMarComo bien sabeis AMD esta fusionado su gama de gpu CDNA(servidores/estaciones de trabajo/supercomputadoras(el gran capitan) y gpu Radeon.Los motivos son muy simples el primero es la diferencia en hardware y software y la retrocompatibilidad de dicho hardware y software,ademas de la falta de eficiencia y el gasto de recursos humanos en 2 versiones que uniendolos en una sola directriz serán mas eficientes,menos costosos y tendran mas recursos de todo tipo,asunto que no se puede lograr cuando tienes la gama de gpu dividida como actualmente. Esta fusión se terminara en 2026 con una nomenclatura UDNA. Mientras AMD ya dijo que no va pelear al menos de momento por las gpu mas de 1000 Euro/dolar. UDNA.
Su interés es el mercado de baja,media,alta pero no el elitista,porque los numeros de ventas reales son la gama baja/media y alta.Steam lo confirma lo mas vendido son series 60 2060/3060/4060.
Las rx 9070 y 9070XT están orientadas como bien indican a pelear contra la serie 70/70 TI nvidia.Segun la optimización del juego una 9070XT en unos juegos dara + y se equiparara a una 4080 en otros se quedara a la par de una 5070 o 4070/ti.
Estos gpu es una ruptura en hardware y software con lo anterior.
Son gpu rediseñados desde 0 en arquitectura por ello ofrecen un mejor rendimiento con ray tracing a las versiones anteriores.
Fsr4 con todas sus caracteristicas nuevas incluida la IA fueron diseñadas para este hardware porque es el unico capaz para desarrollar la potencia completa de FSR4.
De hecho estos 9070 y 9070XT son menos potentes que un 7900XTX pero ofrecen un rendimiento en trazado de rayos similar al 7900XTX que es donde se le da mal a la XTX. Por lo tanto existe un equilibrio mejor entre el rendimiento nativo +fsr4+ trazado de rayos.
Los minoristas tienen stock, tienen un veto de confidencialidad y hasta que AMD diga que se puede lanzar el producto ellos tienen que respetar, además falta aclarar el precio final entre AMD y los distribuidores a falta de conocer los precios de nvidia para la 5070/5070TI.

Amd presentara precios mas bajos que Nvidia.

El evento de AMD se espera para 20 de febrero si bien se conoce que las gpu AMD no saldran a venta hasta el 6 de marzo.Salvo que nvidia aun siga sin aclarar el precio de las 5070.....
Bien dicho

¡No hay que olvidar que AMD está dos años por detrás del rendimiento de Nvidia! 100 Ejemplo: AMD está luchando por superar el rendimiento de la Nvidia AD103 de dos años. Definitivamente, AMD se está quedando atrás.

Bien
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#79
AusWolf
EmmanuelMarComo bien sabeis AMD esta fusionado su gama de gpu CDNA(servidores/estaciones de trabajo/supercomputadoras(el gran capitan) y gpu Radeon.Los motivos son muy simples el primero es la diferencia en hardware y software y la retrocompatibilidad de dicho hardware y software,ademas de la falta de eficiencia y el gasto de recursos humanos en 2 versiones que uniendolos en una sola directriz serán mas eficientes,menos costosos y tendran mas recursos de todo tipo,asunto que no se puede lograr cuando tienes la gama de gpu dividida como actualmente. Esta fusión se terminara en 2026 con una nomenclatura UDNA. Mientras AMD ya dijo que no va pelear al menos de momento por las gpu mas de 1000 Euro/dolar. UDNA.
Su interés es el mercado de baja,media,alta pero no el elitista,porque los numeros de ventas reales son la gama baja/media y alta.Steam lo confirma lo mas vendido son series 60 2060/3060/4060.
Las rx 9070 y 9070XT están orientadas como bien indican a pelear contra la serie 70/70 TI nvidia.Segun la optimización del juego una 9070XT en unos juegos dara + y se equiparara a una 4080 en otros se quedara a la par de una 5070 o 4070/ti.
Estos gpu es una ruptura en hardware y software con lo anterior.
Son gpu rediseñados desde 0 en arquitectura por ello ofrecen un mejor rendimiento con ray tracing a las versiones anteriores.
Fsr4 con todas sus caracteristicas nuevas incluida la IA fueron diseñadas para este hardware porque es el unico capaz para desarrollar la potencia completa de FSR4.
De hecho estos 9070 y 9070XT son menos potentes que un 7900XTX pero ofrecen un rendimiento en trazado de rayos similar al 7900XTX que es donde se le da mal a la XTX. Por lo tanto existe un equilibrio mejor entre el rendimiento nativo +fsr4+ trazado de rayos.
Los minoristas tienen stock, tienen un veto de confidencialidad y hasta que AMD diga que se puede lanzar el producto ellos tienen que respetar, además falta aclarar el precio final entre AMD y los distribuidores a falta de conocer los precios de nvidia para la 5070/5070TI.

Amd presentara precios mas bajos que Nvidia.

El evento de AMD se espera para 20 de febrero si bien se conoce que las gpu AMD no saldran a venta hasta el 6 de marzo.Salvo que nvidia aun siga sin aclarar el precio de las 5070.....
ToxicTaZBien dicho

¡No hay que olvidar que AMD está dos años por detrás del rendimiento de Nvidia! 100 Ejemplo: AMD está luchando por superar el rendimiento de la Nvidia AD103 de dos años. Definitivamente, AMD se está quedando atrás.

Bien
English, please, guys. This is an international forum.
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#80
medi01
DaworaDLSS is just so good
You should be specfic.

As of Feb 2025, it is DLSS 4 that is "so good", while we've figured DLSS 3 actually sucks.
Bomby569AMD is going to
We'll see. Previews look like AMD has addressed the weirdo 1080p=>"let me lie it is 4k" upscale issues:


so the "but what about glorified TAA upscaler, aka DLSS" will probably be rendered moot.
(RIP AI DLSS)

7900XT-ish perf for a $650 card is also nothing to complain about. If they go even lower it will be a hit.
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#81
Dawora
medi01You should be specfic.

As of Feb 2025, it is DLSS 4 that is "so good", while we've figured DLSS 3 actually sucks.


We'll see. Previews look like AMD has addressed the weirdo 1080p=>"let me lie it is 4k" upscale issues:


so the "but what about glorified TAA upscaler, aka DLSS" will probably be rendered moot.
(RIP AI DLSS)

7900XT-ish perf for a $650 card is also nothing to complain about. If they go even lower it will be a hit.
Soon marketshare is 4% amd, 2% intel and 96% Nvidia, if Amd cant compete and make good features.
DLSS vs FSR is 6-0 for DLSS
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#82
OkieDan
DaworaSoon marketshare is 4% amd, 2% intel and 96% Nvidia, if Amd cant compete and make good features.
DLSS vs FSR is 6-0 for DLSS
Is that common core math?
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#83
medi01
Daworamarketshare
For starters OEMs is what drives market share.

AMD wipes the floor with Intel in DIY, but is at what, 30%?

At least in Germany, GPU DIY split is 45-55%-ish, fluctuating, with either vendor having an edge.
OEMs are exclusively green. So, uh oh doh.

Still, Steam shows what:

AMD - 16.4%
NGreed - 75.54%

Well, about 18% if we check only the split between the two.

AMD needs to crack OEMs to change this situation, DIY is just minor part of the total market.


Typing this on an amazing AMD Advantage notebook with 6800m.
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#84
Dawora
OkieDanIs that common core math?
Soon amd is 0% b math needed when Nvidia is 100%
Wo we all can enjoy DLSS and great gpus
medi01For starters OEMs is what drives market share.

AMD wipes the floor with Intel in DIY, but is at what, 30%?

At least in Germany, GPU DIY split is 45-55%-ish, fluctuating, with either vendor having an edge.
OEMs are exclusively green. So, uh oh doh.

Still, Steam shows what:

AMD - 16.4%
NGreed - 75.54%

Well, about 18% if we check only the split between the two.

AMD needs to crack OEMs to change this situation, DIY is just minor part of the total market.


Typing this on an amazing AMD Advantage notebook with 6800m.
Lets just look real marketshare... okay?
Nvidia 90% Amd 10%

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#85
medi01
Daworareal marketshare.
Data shows JPRs take on number of units shipped in a given quarter.
Daworaokay
No, it' is actually terrible.

CPUs: Vastly superior product => 30%-ish market share, thanks to OEMs.
GPUs: A hands down better values products => 16.5% vs 75% (Steam)

Because OEMs.

And if we focus on DIY, cough, here is German data (MF is 25% of the market):

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#86
Krit
medi017900XT-ish perf for a $650 card is also nothing to complain about. If they go even lower it will be a hit.
To be honest it's nothing special either very tiny p/p improvement (Boring) usually RX 7900 XT costs around 650-680€ and it's much more expensive gpu to produce than RX 9070 XT.

If Radeon will charge 650$ for RX 9070 XT than that will be another nail in it's coffin. Such a good times to beat crap out of nvidia but if they choose to not do that then........ as always.......

600$ is a good price for RX 9070 XT if it's truly can perform like a RTX 4080 Super in Raster and RTX 4070 Ti 12GB in RT. If it's performs only like a RX 7900 XT than it's ceiling is 550$ no more than that.
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#87
Kapone33
dir_dThey did alright with the 6800XT, i actually tried to buy one and i couldn't get one. They were no where to be found and that blew up in their face. If people would have been able to get their hands on the card i believe it would have sold very well.
That was at the height of Mining though and in the middle of Covid. When AMD could have made Market share the Vega series got overpriced because of Crypto too.
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#88
Krit
No one (especially gamers) should take nvidia seriously at this point because all nvidia's efforts right now are going in to AI (bias) very similar situation to bitcoin mining hype times. They artificially reduces gamers gpu production amount because it's not profitable for them to sell gpus to gamers.

AMD is establishing itself as a "gamers gpu company" well let's see if it's true because "32GB" RX 9070 XT already is a clear red flag in favor of AI.
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#89
dir_d
kapone32That was at the height of Mining though and in the middle of Covid. When AMD could have made Market share the Vega series got overpriced because of Crypto too.
I got a 3080TI at BestBuy though. No AMD Cards in sight at the time. Nvidia did a good thing when linking up with BestBuy during the craze.
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#91
TPUnique
AusWolfEnglish, please, guys. This is an international forum.
*Anglo-Saxon forum.
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#92
AusWolf
TPUnique*Anglo-Saxon forum.
No. It's an international forum. Anyone who speaks English is welcome.
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#93
medi01
KritTo be honest it's nothing special either very tiny p/p improvement (Boring) usually RX 7900 XT costs around 650-680€ and it's much more expensive gpu to produce than RX 9070 XT.
"Last gen product is cheap now, since who would buy it later on, hence next gen must go even cheaper" is not the right way to think about it.
Kritcoffin
Nonsense.

Also, AMD's steam share is raising, contradicting JPRs findings.
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#94
Krit
medi01"Last gen product is cheap now, since who would buy it later on, hence next gen must go even cheaper" is not the right way to think about it.
And what is the right way to think about it? Are you a big fan of blackwell (one of the worst gpu generations ever released). For now it's a straight up downgrade from RTX 40 Series in terms of raw p/p after more than two years.
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#95
medi01
KritAnd what is the right way to think about it?
Dunno, maybe NOT comparing to discounted price of obsolete products that nobody would buy unless they are very discounted?

MSRP of 7900XT was $899.

For more than a year, the cheapest one could get it in DE was 850 Euro-ish.
Today it is 150 Euro below that.
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#96
Krit
RX 9070 XT replaces RX 7800 XT for 499$ i just can not see 649$ as a good price. For nvidia it will work (they will swallow it like a nothing blackwell is even worse) but not for AMD.
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#97
AusWolf
KritRX 9070 XT replaces RX 7800 XT for 499$ i just can not see 649$ as a good price. For nvidia it will work (they will swallow it like a nothing blackwell is even worse) but not for AMD.
The 9070 XT replaces the 7900 GRE/XT. The 9070 non-XT replaces the 7800 XT.
KritAnd what is the right way to think about it?
Supply and demand. Nobody wants last gen products just before a launch, so they have to go cheaper.
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#98
Krit
AusWolfThe 9070 XT replaces the 7900 GRE/XT. The 9070 non-XT replaces the 7800 XT.
RX 7900 GRE - Die Size 529 mm² @549$
RX 7800 XT - Die Size 346 mm² @499$
RX 9070 XT ~ Die Size around 350-390 mm² @599$ ???

RX 7800 XT is way closer to RX 9070 XT than to RX 7900 GRE (Cost wise and just technically)
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#99
AusWolf
KritRX 7900 GRE - Die Size 529 mm² @549$
RX 7800 XT - Die Size 346 mm² @499$
RX 9070 XT ~ Die Size around 350-390 mm² @599$ ???

RX 7800 XT is way closer to RX 9070 XT than to RX 7900 GRE (Cost wise and just technically)
If we go by die size alone, then half of the Nvidia lineup should be named and priced at least two tiers lower. I always go by performance and/or price. The two things that matter to consumers.
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