user556So, if it's not the story nor the game play, the similarities are what? Just the graphic art?

Dr. DroIt's more likely that it's a case regarding plagiarism on game design and mechanics, which are sometimes patented by developers. Monolith's "Middle-earth: Shadow of" games were notorious for this (look up Nemesis system patents). There is also the Palworld case with Nintendo, these lawsuits should produce some rather interesting results. I also wonder what will happen with Wuthering Waves, since that game copied practically 98% of Genshin Impact's mechanics. miHoYo seems unbothered thus far, though.

Dr. DroIt's more likely that it's a case regarding plagiarism on game design and mechanics, which are sometimes patented by developers.

user556It's a copyright claim so obviously not patent related. It's not even in same category of game type. How can the design and mechanics be a copy?

nguyenWell I'm gonna buy Light of Motiram anyways LOL, suck on that Sony

InVasManiGod forbid someone use the same font. Everything creative is just inspiration at some level or another though in reality. It basically boils down to what % the law considers copied idea's or design legal in essence. Is it 1% is it 99% like where is the line drawn is it keyboards copying typing or is it typing copying written language is it language in general that's been copied passed down expanded and iterated upon for generations over centuries. How deep do you want to go with what's deemed copied and what isn't and why that is.

InVasManiGod forbid someone use the same font. Everything creative is just inspiration at some level or another though in reality. It basically boils down to what % the law considers copied idea's or design legal in essence. Is it 1% is it 99% like where is the line drawn is it keyboards copying typing or is it typing copying written language is it language in general that's been copied passed down expanded and iterated upon for generations over centuries. How deep do you want to go with what's deemed copied and what isn't and why that is.

TomorrowThere are tens of thousands of fonts they could have used. Instead they chose the one that copies horizon.
Sorry but the "inspiration" argument holds no water in this case.

TheinsanegamerNSo which game gets Times new roman? Which one gets comic sans? Sanscript?

This is such an insane argument. I'm sure that Sony is not the only company to use that font. So when will Sony get sued? Will they hapilly bend over backwards and take the software down? Or will they suddenly believe that this time they were right to use the same font?

InVasManiGod forbid someone use the same font. Everything creative is just inspiration at some level or another though in reality. It basically boils down to what % the law considers copied idea's or design legal in essence. Is it 1% is it 99% like where is the line drawn is it keyboards copying typing or is it typing copying written language is it language in general that's been copied passed down expanded and iterated upon for generations over centuries. How deep do you want to go with what's deemed copied and what isn't and why that is.

FrickSome comparision images.

TomorrowThe fonts you mentioned are widely used. The horizon font is a custom creation. There is a fan made horizon font, but obviously no one is using that to make a game. Sony properly licenses the third party software they use.

You cant tell me that Tencent accidentally arrived at this font or that this font is merely inspired by Horizon.

TheinsanegamerNThe comparison I would make is this: Both Call of Duty and Battlefield have, say, the AR15 rifle in the game. Both models are very similar. Should Activision be able to sue EA for this?

the54thvoidFilms and game companies that use 'actual' trademarked assets need a licence from the weapon manufacturer. The weapon IP doesn't belong to the publisher. That's why some games use generic weapon titles.

TheinsanegamerNFair enough. My question then becomes: Does Sony have a copyright to "robot animals"? Or just the specific ones from Horizon? If its the specific ones from Horizon, then how far does that go? The rip offs are similar in design but not the same, there are changes made to them. So if Sony only has the IP from horizon, why do they have the right to anything that resembles, but is not the same, as their own IP?

Take the crab thing. The claw has 3 sections instead of 2, and they are much larger. The coloring is different. The head has a different shape with multiple plates where the Horizon one only has 1. The Horizon one has fewer larger legs compared to the multiple skinny legs of the ripoff. The list continues. To me that's enough changes to differentiate it. If not, then I'm sure we could find previous games with "robot crab" as a concept that would justify a DMCA on the Horizon IP.

TheinsanegamerNFair enough. My question then becomes: Does Sony have a copyright to "robot animals"? Or just the specific ones from Horizon? If its the specific ones from Horizon, then how far does that go? The rip offs are similar in design but not the same, there are changes made to them. So if Sony only has the IP from horizon, why do they have the right to anything that resembles, but is not the same, as their own IP?

Take the crab thing. The claw has 3 sections instead of 2, and they are much larger. The coloring is different. The head has a different shape with multiple plates where the Horizon one only has 1. The Horizon one has fewer larger legs compared to the multiple skinny legs of the ripoff. The list continues. To me that's enough changes to differentiate it. If not, then I'm sure we could find previous games with "robot crab" as a concept that would justify a DMCA on the Horizon IP.