Anything but fix subtick and .1% lows lol

I wish they would fix Team Fortress 2.

A Computer GuyI wish they would fix Team Fortress 2.

They can't possibly uncomment their old code and recompile. That's like one guy's whole afternoon worth of work.

A Computer GuyI wish they would fix Team Fortress 2.

What's there to fix? The bot problem is a thing of the past.

A Computer GuyI wish they would fix Team Fortress 2.

Fix I dunno, but it would be cool to see TF2 on their newer engine someday with updated graphics and features like CS2 has.

phintsFix I dunno, but it would be cool to see TF2 on their newer engine someday with updated graphics and features like CS2 has.

And called TF3. Apart from dealing with the bot problem. Leave TF2 alone

theonlyrobertWhat's there to fix? The bot problem is a thing of the past.

Casual still sucks and bots are still there, it's just not as bad.

This is Valve doing something right! I like it. Bots have no business playing games for people. In my personal book it's the same as cheating. In single player situation I couldn't care less about cheats and whatnot. But online multiplayer situations? Hell no, absolutely unfair and unacceptable!

Ban a million cheaters. Then you'll earn some credit, Valve.

theglazeBan a million cheaters. Then you'll earn some credit, Valve.

Are you really going to quibble over 40,000 users?

lexluthermiesterAre you really going to quibble over 40,000 users?

They also likely know the other users exist. Ban waves happen on purpose to conceal the methods of cheating they know about. If they banned you instantly then after a few cat and mouse games you would be able to better identify how valves bot detection works, thus making the bots themselves even more advanced

Solaris17They also likely know the other users exist. Ban waves happen on purpose to conceal the methods of cheating they know about. If they banned you instantly then after a few cat and mouse games you would be able to better identify how valves bot detection works, thus making the bots themselves even more advanced

My favorite part about the CS community is their stubborn confidence that VAC never gets any work done on it because… Valve never mentions or elaborates in patch logs on their changes to anti-cheat. Just let that sink in. VAC isn’t great by any means, but come on guys, use your brain for a second.

1m accounts is the same as the average number of players. It's kinda scary to see how large the scale is. If it's that big it means their security system is too weak.

My favorite part about the CS community is their stubborn confidence that VAC never gets any work done on it because…

I can't speak for the community at large, but Valve implemented a peer-review program called Overwatch back in 2015, ran it for 7 years with CSGO until CS2 was announced. This allowed players to actively participate in voting to ban suspected cheaters after reviewing a compiled demo. It was effective, and helped solve the edge cases in which experienced cheaters are difficult for an automatic system to identify.

I completed hundreds of Overwatch reviews and submissions. When I stopped playing the game, I still logged in and submitted results weekly, there was even a subreddit of our efforts.

This videosuggests cheaters/programmers eventually overwhelmed the Overwatch system by running bot scripts to submit false reports, breaking the whole system with false-positives and disrupting the Inspector rating. I remember that, because all the cases I was reviewing became just normal gameplay from normal players.

VAC Live is what CS2 currently uses:

In games such as Counter-Strike 2 (formerly Counter-Strike: Global Offensive), it also relies on VAC Live (formerly VACnet), a server-sided machine learning (AI) approach which tries to detect any irregular gameplay. When it managed to detects it, the match will be automatically cancelled, and the player will receive a 20 hours, 1 month (or more) cooldown. In some cases, other players playing with a cheater may also receive a cooldown.

Sounds great, but it doesn't work very well. I have encountered cheaters at all levels of official rank I've participated in, up to +95th percentile. It's frustrating to see accounts that are years old, flaunting thousands of dollars of weapon skins on public Steam profiles with hundreds of posts from people accussing them of cheating. And yet here they are in my match. Toggling on/off at their leisure.

Third-party services (like FACEIT) appear to be the only way to queue for a 5vs5 match and get +99% likelyhood of a no cheaters. That and private 10-man Discords.

How about just make it like CS:S with nothing, no skins, no in-game purchases/rewards or anything?

mechtechHow about just make it like CS:S with nothing, no skins, no in-game purchases/rewards or anything?

Sure, if you want no official servers, no support and no Majors. All of those things are being paid by the skins system. It is what it is.

OnasiSure, if you want no official servers, no support and no Majors. All of those things are being paid by the skins system. It is what it is.

well there used to be back when CS:S was the one. I think I miss the random pubs casual/non-competitive and the zombie escapes and deathrun challenges with 50+ people lol fun times

When was the last time they did this? It's been 10 years?

I like to see that, but can't they just make a new Steam account with new gmail and VPN? CS2 is free product so probably a good chunk of those VAC bans were for nothing.

I uninstalled CS2 just because of the constant annoying updates

OnasiMy favorite part about the CS community is their stubborn confidence that VAC never gets any work done on it because… Valve never mentions or elaborates in patch logs on their changes to anti-cheat. Just let that sink in. VAC isn’t great by any means, but come on guys, use your brain for a second.

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