Wednesday, January 21st 2009

Radeon HD 4870 X2, HD 4850 X2 Faster and Better Than GeForce GTX 295, 285: AMD

AMD started its marketing offensive against NVIDIA's new dual-GPU GeForce GTX 295, and single-GPU GeForce GTX 285 accelerators, in an attempt to put the Radeon HD 4800 X2 series accelerators ahead of its competition in terms of performance on a "broad scale", and used the cards' availability in non-reference designs as a USP against NVIDIA's offerings using a uniform company-specified design. All this, in an internal presentation leaked to Donanim Haber. As for those wondering why, ATI and NVIDIA have a history of picking on each others' flagship products by means of such presentations, with which they intend to influence OEMs and channel vendors, though it always happens so, that these presentations reach public domains. Viral marketing or something plausible? Find out for yourself:

Source: Donanim Haber
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145 Comments on Radeon HD 4870 X2, HD 4850 X2 Faster and Better Than GeForce GTX 295, 285: AMD

#1
evil_raptor
u got to be kidding right? :laugh:
GTX 295 pwns them all :rockout:
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#2
pabloc74
that's funny, because this screenshots are from ati-amd, make me laugh:laugh::laugh::laugh:
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#3
kid41212003
They used the highest resolution which is the weak point of GTX 295, because of its limited memory vs 1GBx2 of ATI cards.

I think this is believable.
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#4
evil_raptor
pabloc74 said:
that's funny, because this screenshots are from ati-amd, make me laugh:laugh::laugh::laugh:
:roll:
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#5
Exceededgoku
Lol that was a good laugh :), I especially like how the GTX285 has 480 shaders to HD4870 X2s 1600 shaders and the shader horsepower is 1.78 to 2.4 teraflops respectively! Surely the 4870 X2 should dominate in this respect...
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#7
lemonadesoda
Disingenuous marketing. :shadedshu

At a technical level so many of those figures are wrong in terms of better performance. The comments are as stupid as saying 100 arrows are better than 1 machine gun, because 100 > 1.
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#8
Noggrin
LOOOOL, those pics made me ROFLMAO.. also i feel bad for amd, they sunk to a new low..:laugh:
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#9
omiknight52
From looking at the review the gtx 295 is not in most game benchmark's that faster then the 4870 x2. I admit it scores better but still not worth it My feelings.
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#10
AlCabone
How come the slides don't mention power consumption? :D
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#11
DrPepper
The Doctor is in the house
AlCabone said:
How come the slides don't mention power consumption? :D
Because no one really cares about power consumption :D
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#12
kysg
and yes unfortunately ATI has to nitpick at nvidia. They gotta do something this time to keep from getting their rears from being handed to them again on a silver platter. Couldn't be anyworse than what some other companies do...
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#13
The Witcher
god damn O_o

I never knew that AMD were so stupid like that.

I guess they think that we are so unintelligent to the point that we won't even recognize their BS ?!

This made me lose my respect for AMD, they were so direct and rude -.-

They could get sued for this right ?

This thing reminds of the latest Asus VS Gigabyte war xD

In the end AMD will apologize :P

(Too many thoughts in my mind right now :P)
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#14
Xiphos
this is good for AMD :p

marketing is where it's at
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#15
lemonadesoda
Just a few random examples to even the boat little:

Call of Duty 5


BiA: Hells Highway


Crysis Warhead

Performance Summary from TPU
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#16
my-id
Hi Guys
May be AMD-ATI has something we don't, and that's ATI CCC 9.1.
so we will wait for new driver from AMD.
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#17
TRIPTEX_CAN
Why is ATI saying anything about the 4850x2? They don't even write drivers to support the card. Sapphire has to support them. ATI crippled the launch of the 4850x2 just to help the 4870x2 sales.

ATI is blowing smoke out of their a$$... Where is Catalyst 9.1? instead of trying to rain on Nvidia's parade ATI should go back to work on their own drivers.
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#18
Laurijan
AMD´s statement that the 285 doesnt offer anything new compared to the 280 is wrong cause its 55nm technology thus cooler..
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#19
soldier242
come on guys, nvidia does the same thing ... and i see it reasonable that the 4870 x2 does quite good in ultra high resolutions and with AA & AF turned all the way up
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#20
PVTCaboose1337
Graphical Hacker
I hate the dirty marketing between companies... so sad. We all know the GTX295 pwns.
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#21
phanbuey
lol... this is like the "true quad core performance boost over Core 2" barcelona screenshots... I wonder how much theyre paying baghdad bob to come up with these.
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#22
Laurijan
phanbuey said:
lol... this is like the "true quad core performance boost over Core 2" barcelona screenshots... I wonder how much theyre paying baghdad bob to come up with these.
lol Badhdad Bob
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#23
[I.R.A]_FBi
kid41212003 said:
They used the highest resolution which is the weak point of GTX 295, because of its limited memory vs 1GBx2 of ATI cards.

I think this is believable.
It acts as 1 GB
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#24
adrianx
so....your test are with out AA

the test from the thread are with AA 8X


so... let compare same apple ... not an apple with an EGG
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#25
Weer
Wow, that's just cheap.

They purposefully set Crysis @ 2560x1600 with 4xAA, knowing that at exactly that setting the GTX 295 crumbles only because of memory capacity, and then yell at our faces bluntly provoking the lie that the 4870X2 is better.

Simply unbelievable.
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