Thursday, January 28th 2010

Phenom II X6 Series Details Surface, Slated for May 2010

AMD's upcoming six-core desktop processor, codenamed "Thuban" is on course for a May 2010, suggests a report. The series is likely to receive the brand name Phenom II X6. There are four models planned for release within Q2, 2010. The Thuban core is AMD's desktop implementation of the Istanbul core, in the socket AM3 package, supporting dual-channel DDR3 memory. It is a monolithic multi-core design with six x86-64 cores, each with 128 KB of L1, 512 KB of L2 cache, and a 6 MB L3 cache shared between the six cores. Just as with K10 dual, triple, and quad core processors where AMD used a HyperTransport interface clock speed of 1800 MHz (3600 MT/s), or 2000 MHz (4000 MT/s), the new processor will take advantage of HyperTransport 3.x interface, with a HT speed of 2400 MHz (4800 MT/s). Thuban will be built on GlobalFoundaries' 45 nm node.

The table below lists out details of the four planned models. The model number of the top part isn't known. Most likely it is a Black Edition part, which comes with an unlocked BClk multiplier. It operates at 2.80 GHz, with a TDP of 140W. A step below is the Phenom II X6 1075T, which has an expected TDP of 125W, the 1055T is a notch below, and 1035T being the cheapest part. The exact clock speeds of the latter three models isn't known as yet. A month ahead of releasing these chips, AMD will announce the AMD 8-series chipset platform, led by 890FX (high-end, best for CrossFireX), 890GX (performance integrated graphics with CrossFire support). The AMD SB800 series southbridge chips will feature native support for SATA 6 Gb/s. Its on-die SATA controller gives out six SATA ports complete with RAID support. Some existing AM3 motherboards based on 7-series chipsets may also support Phenom II X6 with a BIOS update.


Source: OCWorkbench
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277 Comments on Phenom II X6 Series Details Surface, Slated for May 2010

#1
WarEagleAU
Bird of Prey
Very nice and hopefully prices will be within reason. I could go for one of these BE edtion procs with an unlocked FSB mutli, hopefull it clocks well.
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#2
FlanK3r
for "just playing games" u need not Thuban ;). I want 1-2 Thubans for overcloking. 955 is for LN2 and my 965 is "HTPC" :D
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#3
tonyd223
El_Mayo said:
AM2+ support? :)
exactly my point!
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#4
PP Mguire
devguy said:
Likely. But it'll likely also be super cheap compared to the Intel i7 hex core offering.
erocker said:
Exactly which is why these really aren't competing with i7. I will take one. I can live with a $300-$400 6 core but $1000+ no thank you.
Lol and when are AMD really gonna start coming up to the plate then? AMD has been battling Intel since Conroe which was how many years ago now? 3? 4? I went i5 because of pittle paddling like this. I think AMD Marketing is a bit backwards if you ask me.
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#5
Hunt3r
Now I will start saving money to buy one of these..heh
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#7
El_Mayo
tonyd223 said:
exactly my point!
haha ikr
can't they release even a cut down version with only 6mb L3 and 2.4ghz clock speed or something? ;(
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El_Mayo
El_Mayo said:
haha ikr
can't they release even a cut down version with only 6mb L3 and 2.4ghz clock speed or something? ;(
FlanK3r said:
for "just playing games" u need not Thuban ;). I want 1-2 Thubans for overcloking. 955 is for LN2 and my 965 is "HTPC" :D
well i know that, but think of games of the future! i could decide to be a cheap bastard and upgrade to a X6 if it supported AM2+ 3-4 years down the line and rock some games pretty well :D
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#9
devguy
PP Mguire said:
Lol and when are AMD really gonna start coming up to the plate then? AMD has been battling Intel since Conroe which was how many years ago now? 3? 4? I went i5 because of pittle paddling like this. I think AMD Marketing is a bit backwards if you ask me.
AMD has been battling Intel since waaaay before Conroe. And its fine that you moved to i5 technologies from AMD, although I don't expect you'll get any options for hex-cores or more on that platform. I don't see any significant roadmap showing similar expansion for socket 1156 as for socket 1366. Now you could say AMD is doing a similar thing by not allowing AM2+ compatiblity for Thuban. Yet AM2+ has been around considerably longer than AM3, wheras s1156 came out well after s1366.

And it's not like AMD isn't trying to compete with Intel (who has vastly more resources than it does). The 45nm s775 lineup from Intel is well matched by the 45nm AM3 lineup from AMD. In games, a stock 965 will perform neck and neck with a more expensive stock i7 920 (not including platform cost). True, the triple channel controller on i7 (s1366) and hyperthreading will allow it to massacre anything else in memory intensive and highly parallel programs (including stuff from its own 1156 lineup), but for someone like me, that matters little. I personally love the $99, highly overclockable, quad core idea that only AMD offers.
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#10
El_Mayo
devguy said:
AMD has been battling Intel since waaaay before Conroe. And its fine that you moved to i5 technologies from AMD, although I don't expect you'll get any options for hex-cores or more on that platform. I don't see any significant roadmap showing similar expansion for socket 1156 as for socket 1366. Now you could say AMD is doing a similar thing by not allowing AM2+ compatiblity for Thuban. Yet AM2+ has been around considerably longer than AM3, wheras s1156 came out well after s1366.

And it's not like AMD isn't trying to compete with Intel (who has vastly more resources than it does). The 45nm s775 lineup from Intel is well matched by the 45nm AM3 lineup from AMD. In games, a stock 965 will perform neck and neck with a more expensive stock i7 920 (not including platform cost). True, the triple channel controller on i7 (s1366) and hyperthreading will allow it to massacre anything else in memory intensive and highly parallel programs (including stuff from its own 1156 lineup), but for someone like me, that matters little. I personally love the $99, highly overclockable, quad core idea that only AMD offers.
well said, i think the quote from pantherx12 in my sig says it best xD
why don't intel offer X3 processors exactly?
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#11
BraveSoul
this is great news,, i c it being more affordable then intel's 6core
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#12
Kei
El_Mayo said:
well said, i think the quote from pantherx12 in my sig says it best xD
why don't intel offer X3 processors exactly?
Well said devguy. :toast:

@ El_Mayo

I've wondered that for a while now too, but I imagine it stems from the sandwiching of cores they used to (still do?) with their multicore processors. If they made true multicore units I think they would also make tri-cre processors....unless I'm totally wrong and they do actually make true units (I think the i7's are, but I don't really know)...in which I must say I have NO IDEA why they don't.

I personally think the X3 idea is one of the best ideas in a looong time for computing. It makes just so much sense with dual cores still being what's widely developed for (though quad is making ground), so adding another core just makes a dual core processor that much better since 1 core can handle the more mundane/routine tasks while the other two fire away.

Kei
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#13
SirMango
Awesome. I'll hold off from upgrading my S939 system until then :toast:
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#14
r9
Polarman said:
No X5 ? :D
AMD isn`t wasting anything I bet there would be sempron single core derived from PII x6 :D.
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#15
troyrae360
Kei said:
Well said devguy. :toast:

@ El_Mayo

I've wondered that for a while now too, but I imagine it stems from the sandwiching of cores they used to (still do?) with their multicore processors. If they made true multicore units I think they would also make tri-cre processors....unless I'm totally wrong and they do actually make true units (I think the i7's are, but I don't really know)...in which I must say I have NO IDEA why they don't.

I personally think the X3 idea is one of the best ideas in a looong time for computing. It makes just so much sense with dual cores still being what's widely developed for (though quad is making ground), so adding another core just makes a dual core processor that much better since 1 core can handle the more mundane/routine tasks while the other two fire away.

Kei
AMD were the first companey to make a Tru dual core processor and likewise with the quad core they also were the first companey to make the first tru quad core processor,

from what i've read the 6x core from amd is really 6cores and the 12core is 2x6cores sandwedged.
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#16
BraveSoul
SirMango said:
Awesome. I'll hold off from upgrading my S939 system until then :toast:
what an upgrade that would be:toast:
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#17
eidairaman1
r9 said:
AMD isn`t wasting anything I bet there would be sempron single core derived from PII x6 :D.
wouldn't be feasible, Also someone got a Sempron 140 and expected to unlock the other core on it, well it resulted in Blue Screens left and right, so that proves that not all Locked Processors have Good cores if they are based on multicore parts.

SNAP that was a BURN! Also I think AMD removed the DDR2 Controller out of Thuban since DDR2 is on its way out.

devguy said:
AMD has been battling Intel since waaaay before Conroe. And its fine that you moved to i5 technologies from AMD, although I don't expect you'll get any options for hex-cores or more on that platform. I don't see any significant roadmap showing similar expansion for socket 1156 as for socket 1366. Now you could say AMD is doing a similar thing by not allowing AM2+ compatiblity for Thuban. Yet AM2+ has been around considerably longer than AM3, wheras s1156 came out well after s1366.

And it's not like AMD isn't trying to compete with Intel (who has vastly more resources than it does). The 45nm s775 lineup from Intel is well matched by the 45nm AM3 lineup from AMD. In games, a stock 965 will perform neck and neck with a more expensive stock i7 920 (not including platform cost). True, the triple channel controller on i7 (s1366) and hyperthreading will allow it to massacre anything else in memory intensive and highly parallel programs (including stuff from its own 1156 lineup), but for someone like me, that matters little. I personally love the $99, highly overclockable, quad core idea that only AMD offers.
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PP Mguire
devguy said:
AMD has been battling Intel since waaaay before Conroe. And its fine that you moved to i5 technologies from AMD, although I don't expect you'll get any options for hex-cores or more on that platform. I don't see any significant roadmap showing similar expansion for socket 1156 as for socket 1366. Now you could say AMD is doing a similar thing by not allowing AM2+ compatiblity for Thuban. Yet AM2+ has been around considerably longer than AM3, wheras s1156 came out well after s1366.

And it's not like AMD isn't trying to compete with Intel (who has vastly more resources than it does). The 45nm s775 lineup from Intel is well matched by the 45nm AM3 lineup from AMD. In games, a stock 965 will perform neck and neck with a more expensive stock i7 920 (not including platform cost). True, the triple channel controller on i7 (s1366) and hyperthreading will allow it to massacre anything else in memory intensive and highly parallel programs (including stuff from its own 1156 lineup), but for someone like me, that matters little. I personally love the $99, highly overclockable, quad core idea that only AMD offers.
Intel was meh before Conroe because AXP and 939 was kinckin butt :rockout:

Core 2 changed the scene. I went to i5 because nothing can really shake a stick at it, and its more than plenty for games. When you overclock an i5 to 4ghz (easily reachable on any decent air cooler) it takes down almost anything besides its bigger brother. I ventured away from AMD because i dont see anything feasible in the near future for them. This hexa is just that proof.
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#21
(FIH) The Don
sounds like i'll be buying a whole new rig this summer :roll: but only if the x6 will be under 500$
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#22
PP Mguire
No reason for it to be over 500 honestly. Sounds like a 920 with 6 cores.
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#23
[H]@RD5TUFF
eidairaman1 said:
what does it matter to you?
What the hell is this supposed to mean?:wtf:

PP Mguire said:
No reason for it to be over 500 honestly. Sounds like a 920 with 6 cores.
Just with cheaper motherboards, I wish I could buy a decent x58 mobo for $130'ish dollars.
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#24
(FIH) The Don
buy a used UD3R or a P6T? they should be around 150$ used maximum
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#25
PP Mguire
Or a P55 200 bucks tops (i dont count classys in that) :D

I went i5 for a reason. No need for i7 and i5 is cheaper but still better than Phenom 2. Nice middle ground for the poor guy :laugh:
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