Friday, April 16th 2010

Phenom II X4 960T ''Zosma'' Unlock to Phenom II X6

AMD's upcoming series of Phenom II X4 900T series that supports AMD Turbo Core technology, and which are based on the "Zosma" die, have been confirmed to be able to unlock both its manufacturer-disabled cores to work as a six-core processor. Zosma is a "cut-down" version of AMD's Thuban six-core die, where two of its cores are disabled. With the remaining four cores, two can function with increased clock-speeds in boost-state as Turbo cores (3/6 could on the X6 chip).

The core unlocking is said to have been done on an AMD 890GX chipset based motherboard, in the same way disabled cores on Phenom II X3 and X2 chips are unlocked. One of the first models based on Zosma are the Phenom II X4 960T and X4 940T, which operate at 3.30 GHz and 3.00 GHz, respectively. Their Turbo Core speeds are up to 500 MHz over clock speeds, depending on the model. The X4 T-series could form AMD's mainstream processor in the sub-$200 range.Source: OCWorkbench
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120 Comments on Phenom II X4 960T ''Zosma'' Unlock to Phenom II X6

#1
Wile E
Power User
crazyeyesreaper said:
yea sorry for the garbage post but someone ive never seen joins the forums today and says they have a 960T its makes a man raise and eyebrow or 2 and a jaw drop as well lol

and since they havent been released publicly you can probably understand the *troll post* come on erocker i know damn well your a mod but if you had randomly stumbled across this first you would have had the same thoughts i did just your a mod so you cant step out line as often as us regular ppl who just get infractions *points at mailman*
Hey, you shouldn't talk about your daddy that way.

(See what I did there?)
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#2
crazyeyesreaper
Chief Broken Rig
if mailman was my dad it would better explain my behavior but sadly hes not... mines a drunken bum who likes to say things along the lines of "get off my lawn" followed by colorful language we all enjoy... or complain when hung over... mailman would be a much better dad i could laugh as he gets hit with bansticks all the time that would be awesome...

i must be getting more popular as well everyones quoting the same post from me lol :D



wait on second thought mailman would be a horrible father hed steal 1 of my 5850s and say i didnt deserve it cause i was acting like an ass and thats his job not mine :roll:
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#3
erocker
This is a news post. Please stay on topic.

Thank you.
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#4
boise49ers
Mussels said:
i'd say definitely yes.


i'm gunna buy one, see if it unlocks, and if not... well, its gunna work nicely in my media PC until i go AMD on my main
Good, what is the price range ?
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#5
casemods
Here are some pics I just took
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#6
erocker
casemods said:
Here are some pics I just took
It's not an engineering sample. That is a legitimate 960T OEM CPU.
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#7
casemods
erocker said:
It's not an engineering sample. That is a legitimate 960T OEM CPU.
What does that mean exactly?

And since it's legal now, what's it worth?
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#8
erocker
casemods said:
What does that mean exactly?

And since it's legal now, what's it worth?
I have no idea... I need to research it further. You figure though, a new 965BE goes for about $170 bucks.
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#9
casemods
erocker said:
I have no idea... I need to research it further. You figure though, a new 965BE goes for about $170 bucks.
But is the 965BE theban based with 2 locked cores?

From what I read"

"With all 6 cores running, the 960T is recognized by BIOS as "Phenom II X6 1605T"
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#10
crazyeyesreaper
Chief Broken Rig
well in terms of what you would pay the 960T wouldnt be much better then a 965 a 960T will oc further etc etc but at stock and at 4 cores new it would probably be close to the 965be in price that said yours is bare cpu only and has had a couple users new its worth probably as erocker posted above $170 to sell it now you might actually get that since theres a few ppl who want one lol but in terms of used sales id say $120 ish for the most part maybe a bit more but right now you have the only one so who knows someone might pay a good price for it
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#11
casemods
crazyeyesreaper said:
well in terms of what you would pay the 960T wouldnt be much better then a 965 a 960T will oc further etc etc but at stock and at 4 cores new it would probably be close to the 965be in price that said yours is bare cpu only and has had a couple users new its worth probably as erocker posted above $170 to sell it now you might actually get that since theres a few ppl who want one lol but in terms of used sales id say $120 ish for the most part maybe a bit more but right now you have the only one so who knows someone might pay a good price for it
From what I understand, it was never used.

Also, can't it be unlocked to 6 cores, making it more valuable as an X6 1605T?
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#12
erocker
casemods said:


Also, can't it be unlocked to 6 cores, making it more valuable as an X6 1605T?
It's not certain. Some can, some cannot. It's possible the extra two cores are defective or disabled.
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#13
crazyeyesreaper
Chief Broken Rig
^ exactly and besides with Bing cashback and deals on different sites you can get a 1055T for around $180 and if really lucky you can sometimes score 1035T OEM 6 cores for even less on ebay etc pulled from OEM rigs
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#14
casemods
crazyeyesreaper said:
^ exactly and besides with Bing cashback and deals on different sites you can get a 1055T for around $180 and if really lucky you can sometimes score 1035T OEM 6 cores for even less on ebay etc pulled from OEM rigs
Keep it or sell it for $150+ and get an athlon x4 for $80?
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#15
cadaveca
My name is Dave
Keep it. Will not be a common cpu, and the Turbo function, in a proper board, will be quite useful. I'd have fun with it. ;)
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#17
theonedub
habe fidem
casemods said:
Keep it or sell it for $150+ and get an athlon x4 for $80?
Definitely keep it, an Athlon II X4 is nothing special.

crazyeyesreaper said:
^ exactly and besides with Bing cashback and deals on different sites you can get a 1055T for around $180 and if really lucky you can sometimes score 1035T OEM 6 cores for even less on ebay etc pulled from OEM rigs
Bing cashback is dead, RIP :laugh:
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#19
casemods
erocker said:
The 890FX is well worth the extra $14 bucks!
It's $30 more! Which is a lot when you factor in shipping (now $40 more)
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#20
erocker
$129.99 vs.

$142.86 w/ shipping

=

$12.87 :confused:
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#21
cadaveca
My name is Dave
casemods said:
OK I will. Turbo ads what? 50% or something?

How can I tell what boards would utilize the turbo?

Looking at these 2 boards right now


http://www.microcenter.com/single_product_results.phtml?product_id=0334891

Open Box: ASUS M4A89TD PRO AM3 AMD 890FX SATA 6Gb/...
You want a board with a good Thuban bios. I am not playing with Thuban yet, so I have no idea what is best at the moment...I've been very patiently waiting for ASUS Crosshair 4 Extreme before using my own Thuban. Lots of others here have 'em though, so bet to look at what they say.

Not sure what turbo-speed is...i think it's 3.0 stock, and 3.4 Turbo(as is marked in green sharpie on your cpu). This is quite a bit slower than 965BE, but power consumption is much better..should be around 80w or so stock(95w max).
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#22
casemods
erocker said:
$129.99 vs.

$142.86 w/ shipping

=

$12.87 :confused:
The microcenter board (open box just like newegg) is only $104.00 with maybe $10 tax = $114.00 out the door.
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#23
erocker
casemods said:
The microcenter board (open box just like newegg) is only $104.00 with maybe $10 tax = $114.00 out the door.
That's not too bad.. Both boards have Thuban bios's so either will work. If you want less expensive, go for it. :)
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#24
cadaveca
My name is Dave
bah...just stick it in the mail, headed in my direction. :laugh:
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#25
casemods
erocker said:
That's not too bad.. Both boards have Thuban bios's so either will work. If you want less expensive, go for it. :)
What would I be missing out on if I went the microcenter board vs the newegg board, out of curiosity?
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