Friday, April 16th 2010

Phenom II X4 960T ''Zosma'' Unlock to Phenom II X6

AMD's upcoming series of Phenom II X4 900T series that supports AMD Turbo Core technology, and which are based on the "Zosma" die, have been confirmed to be able to unlock both its manufacturer-disabled cores to work as a six-core processor. Zosma is a "cut-down" version of AMD's Thuban six-core die, where two of its cores are disabled. With the remaining four cores, two can function with increased clock-speeds in boost-state as Turbo cores (3/6 could on the X6 chip).

The core unlocking is said to have been done on an AMD 890GX chipset based motherboard, in the same way disabled cores on Phenom II X3 and X2 chips are unlocked. One of the first models based on Zosma are the Phenom II X4 960T and X4 940T, which operate at 3.30 GHz and 3.00 GHz, respectively. Their Turbo Core speeds are up to 500 MHz over clock speeds, depending on the model. The X4 T-series could form AMD's mainstream processor in the sub-$200 range.Source: OCWorkbench
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120 Comments on Phenom II X4 960T ''Zosma'' Unlock to Phenom II X6

#1
Rakesh95
I actually own an Intel chip, but could somebody explain why AMD would'nt be suing these companies for having core enabling abilities. Isnt AMD losing a lot of money from this?
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#2
Gjohnst4
Nice, Been waiting for these. Hope my MSI 790FX GD70 can unlock these with a bios update
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#3
runnin17
This is really good news. Gotta love AMD. Intel is just plain boring compared to AMD. Woot!!!
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#4
dir_d
Gjohnst4 said:
Nice, Been waiting for these. Hope my MSI 790FX GD70 can unlock these with a bios update
It better or im gonna throw a shit fit
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#6
Mussels
Moderprator
they get a 500MHz boost in turbo, so it all depends on the original clock.
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#7
Steevo
Rakesh95 said:
I actually own an Intel chip, but could somebody explain why AMD would'nt be suing these companies for having core enabling abilities. Isnt AMD losing a lot of money from this?
AMD is like the muscle shop down the street, Intel is like Mercedes Benz, when they have it its good, and when they don't you still buy for the name. Intel will change sockets again and again at a whim to force user to update, AMD is still providing great real world performance for users with slightly older machines.

I use both, but with current prices, and updates AMD is getting my build business, and also my home business. I have used C2D but for power use, total system cost, total system performance, and great chipsets and *****integrated video***** AMD is killing Intel.
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#8
btarunr
Editor & Senior Moderator
Rakesh95 said:
I actually own an Intel chip, but could somebody explain why AMD would'nt be suing these companies for having core enabling abilities. Isnt AMD losing a lot of money from this?
Because it doesn't want to. Kind of like the Radeon 9700 soft-mod that sold ATI tons of cards. AMD can always turn off this feature. Phenom I X3 and Athlon X2 7000 series could not be unlocked to X4 at all.
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#9
F430
how about 955 on 785ud3h ?
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#10
Wile E
Power User
Saw this coming a mile away. Unlocks are always good news.
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#11
b82rez
Can't wait for a legit person to review one of these chips....I'm hoping to upgrade to the 1090T if they bench well enough up against the i7.

Anyone know when these chips will release in Australia?
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#13
MilkyWay
do you guys think these new x4s will clock or perform any better than the current x4s?
im not talking about unlock ability just 4 cores

looks good but i dunno if id rather scope out a current x4 since a lot of people might sell those to fund the x6 purchase, you could get a nice deal possibly especially if its a proven chip
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#14
Mussels
Moderprator
MilkyWay said:
do you guys think these new x4s will clock or perform any better than the current x4s?
im not talking about unlock ability just 4 cores

looks good but i dunno if id rather scope out a current x4 since a lot of people might sell those to fund the x6 purchase, you could get a nice deal possibly especially if its a proven chip
well, 500MHz is already guranteed due to turbo
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#15
cauby
Rakesh95 said:
I actually own an Intel chip, but could somebody explain why AMD would'nt be suing these companies for having core enabling abilities. Isnt AMD losing a lot of money from this?
and just complementing for what others said,it also kind of serves as a good marketing oportunity for them.They sell quad cores that could possibly be unlocked to six cores,people will see the news on the net and say "Wow,possible 6 cores for U$200?I gotta get one of these" and so they will sell well...that just what happened with many of the Athlons and Phenom II.
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#18
WarEagleAU
Bird of Prey
Cheaper for me than going the full 6 core way, especially since the Asus board I want will unlock this :D
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#19
MikeX
dont go all happy now, cuz next gen will be hyperthread (Bulldozer), 4/8 and 8/16.
I think I get a sempron 140 unlock to 2 cores then wait for Bulldozer. XD
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#20
rizla1
MikeX said:
dont go all happy now, cuz next gen will be hyperthread (Bulldozer), 4/8 and 8/16.
I think I get a sempron 140 unlock to 2 cores then wait for Bulldozer. XD
bulldozer doesnt actually use hypertreading , the cores are in groups of 2 the goups of cores are real cores not hyperteading . Anyway would intel not sue them for using hypertreading?:laugh:
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#21
Trigger911
Man i am getting behind on this stuff:eek:
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#22
casemods
I just acquired a 960t Black edition for $75 and it will not detect all 4 cores in my motherboard (msi k9n6pgm2-v2)

I was wondering:

1. How much I could sell the chip for

2. If it's worth keeping and buying a new motherboard to unlock all 6 cores

Edit: what are my chances that the cores are even unlock able and if there is a way to find out without buying a new motherboard
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#23
crazyeyesreaper
Chief Broken Rig
hmmm no offense to the person above me but i smell troll....

*whiff whiff.... yup *
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#25
crazyeyesreaper
Chief Broken Rig
dont insult me last anyone knew these CPUs never saw the light of day they were scrapped so untill i see a VALIDATED CPU Z color me skeptical not to mention talk about resurecting an old thread
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