Friday, December 31st 2010

AMD FX Making a Comeback, to Challenge Intel Core i7 Extreme Edition

Come 2011, and AMD is looking to give Intel its much awaited fightback at all market segments of consumer processors including the enthusiast-grade models. It will be made possible with AMD's new Bulldozer architecture, which gives the processor a much higher degree of inter-core integration, sharing of common components, higher instructions per clock-cycle, and Advanced Vector Extensions (AVX). AMD's Bulldozer "Zambezi" desktop chips will be reportedly available in two ultra high-end SKUs: the 8-core AMD Vision Black FX, and performance segment AMD Vision Ultimate FX. AMD suspended the use of "FX" identifier with its Phenom and Phenom II series processors, because it couldn't compete in higher-end market segments, and didn't want to dilute the "FX" identifier. It was replaced with "Black Edition" to help identify models with unlocked BClk multipliers. AMD's Vision Black FX processors will be competitive with Intel's highest-end processors, including Extreme Edition models.
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155 Comments on AMD FX Making a Comeback, to Challenge Intel Core i7 Extreme Edition

#28
overclocking101
this is good news! if the high end segment has competition it will drive prices on high end gear down! finally something good!
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#29
[H]@RD5TUFF
But will the $1,000 dollar price tag return as well ?

I don't think the world is quite ready for AMD to go boutique, as AMD has worked hard for 3-4 years now to cultivate an image of value over preformence.

If these are 800-1000 dollars like the original FX's they will fail.
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#30
hellrazor
Come on AMD *crosses fingers*, I know you can make it!
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#31
Super XP
Aleksander DishnicaI think it was Ati which made amd to look so far, or better saying gpu money made them jump so high. Even though i am an AMD fan, i must say that this looks more like a speculation, because beating intel or even matching them in the enthusiast level from a weaker "enemy" in cpu market seems very difficult because they didn't do that in so much time. I just hope this dream comes true and both amd and us will benefit from this. Also watching Intel's new cpu increasing by 100 mhz seems terrible.
That was AMD's CEO Hector Ruiz fault. He did some good for the company but he did a lot worst overall for the company IMO which took AMD to greatness with the Athlon 64 but then road on that success way too long which enabled Intel to kill AMD with the Core2 with AMD answering back with absolutely Jack. The issue here was Hector Ruiz IMO thought Intel would just stick to the aging Pentium design and just jack up the clock speed, but no Intel was smart and released a somewhat newer design.

Thank goodness AMD finally has a strong, intelligent CEO Dirk Meyer. All I have to say is, look out Intel, this guy knows his stuff Big Time...;) Here comes Bulldozer...
[H]@RD5TUFFBut will the $1,000 dollar price tag return as well ?

I don't think the world is quite ready for AMD to go boutique, as AMD has worked hard for 3-4 years now to cultivate an image of value over preformence.

If these are 800-1000 dollars like the original FX's they will fail.
Those prices were yesteryear. I don't see that happening anymore, that would be a kick in the nuts for AMD. I can see approx: $600 max for a super fast Bulldozer based FX CPU but that is about it. Not even Graphics cards should cost that much money. Technology just moves way too fast. You buy something today and tomorrow it's old...
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#32
[H]@RD5TUFF
Super XPThose prices were yesteryear. I don't see that happening anymore, that would be a kick in the nuts for AMD. I can see approx: $600 max for a super fast Bulldozer based FX CPU but that is about it. Not even Graphics cards should cost that much money. Technology just moves way too fast. You buy something today and tomorrow it's old...
We shall see, I'm going off what has happened in the past your going of pure opinion and speculation.

IMO $600 is far too much for an AMD CPU ( I had a 2800+ (barton) and a FX50( and have many AMD CPU's now), and as I stated earlier AMD has yet to place itself in a position where, they are ready to be seen as high end CPU maker. If a company made say cars, and they specialized in say hybrids (see Toyota, or Honda), and they said they were going to start making super cars, would you have the same interest and perception as if it were a Mercedes (doubtful).

I think AMD just needs to continue to pump out bang for your buck solid processors and getting closer to Intel in performance with every next gen, and gaining market share, as the average AMD buyer buys because they are cheap and get the job done, not because they are as fast as an Intel CPU.

But as I said we shall see.:cool::toast:
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#33
GSquadron
As far as i have read lately, it was amd move to buy ATI which costed an arm to amd and that made intel win. But, always remember that there has been a time for AMD as the best too ;)
This is the first logic that come out of my mind, after reading the history of amd i was sure than, that ati was the most important buy. I have another idea too, which is not confirmed of course!
Why did AMD "delete" ATI in 6xxx series and not sooner or later? Because the revenues showed that Ati become so powerful that payed back the "arm" to amd and now it is amd's arm :D (the terminator is the resemblance of AMD, so great idea for me!)
Expect that it will surpass both intel and nvidia. Also imagine as amd was a human without the arm. Now that it has it, it is like fusion and this move is just like UNIFICATION, the most important view of Albert Einsten. If things do not change, Amd will be like Intel is now for decades!!! This were my 50 cents :P
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#34
sunil
Well if $600 max for a super fast Bulldozer based FX CPU . then why not buy Intel high end CPU
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#35
DigitalUK
great news i highly doubt AMD would resurect the FX brand again just to be beaten down by sandy bridge afew months later, looks like bulldozer is going to bring it this time either by a total kicking or trading blows. only problem is when FX was king they cost an arm and a leg.
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#36
Over_Lord
News Editor
welcome back too the GAME, AMD, april 2011 it is


and HAPPY NEW YEAR EVERYONE
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#37
Mussels
Freshwater Moderator
sunilWell if $600 max for a super fast Bulldozer based FX CPU . then why not buy Intel high end CPU
because its going to be faster?
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#38
CDdude55
Crazy 4 TPU!!!
Musselsbecause its going to be faster?
If history tells us anything Intel will probably already counter act with something else that beats it for a bit of a higher price. Whether that be Sandy Bridge or the current i7's.

But if Bulldozer can blow through the i7's and come in at a nice price, i definitely will be looking their way.:)
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#39
Mussels
Freshwater Moderator
CDdude55If history tells us anything Intel will probably already counter act with something else that beats it for a bit of a higher price. Whether that be Sandy Bridge or the current i7's.

But if Bulldozer can blow through the i7's and come in at a nice price, i definitely will be looking their way.:)
if AMD has 8 cores out while intels still on 6 for the same price, the extra cores will pwn hyperthreading in a lot of tasks.


despite what various people think, AMD IS ahead in some areas

my housemate and i do a lot of video encoding - and stock vs stock, my 1090T (cheaper) is faster than his i7 930.

an 8 core AMD should do the same to a 6 core intel, unless they fail and release really low clock speeds.
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#40
Super XP
sunilWell if $600 max for a super fast Bulldozer based FX CPU . then why not buy Intel high end CPU
Because this Super Fast Bulldozer FX CPU should be "MUCH" faster or equal to Intel's super charged High End CPU. What I think will happen is a good Price Fight for both AMD & Intel for the ultra High End. Remember the FX will not be for everybody, AMD and Intel will still have a lot more competitive and affordable priced CPU's. We are really talking about a niche based CPU IMO for both the FX and the Core i7/i9/i11 etc... IMO...

Who on God's green earth would buy these CPU's :confused:
Intel Core 2 Extreme QX9770 = $ 1,815.99
Intel Core i7 965 Extreme Edition = $ 1,336.99
www.canadacomputers.com/index.php?cPath=4_65&page=1&sort=3d

Need I say More!!! :D
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#41
micropage7
after a while intel has been a king on the block, amd will challenge him on new battle field: top of the top, its gonna be interesting and it will be a hard, bloody and painful battle
so just wait who will gonna be the next king of the block
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#42
Melvis
:roll: Love that slogan (I will be back) nice touch.

Bring back the FX i say :rockout:

I still own a FX-57, great CPU
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#43
MxPhenom 216
ASIC Engineer
wahdangunwow, i can't express my excitement, wow i hope they can bring a can of whoop ass, like they do to nvdia on the GPU front
id watch what you say.:shadedshu
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#45
[H]@RD5TUFF
Musselsif AMD has 8 cores out while intels still on 6 for the same price, the extra cores will pwn hyperthreading in a lot of tasks.


despite what various people think, AMD IS ahead in some areas

my housemate and i do a lot of video encoding - and stock vs stock, my 1090T (cheaper) is faster than his i7 930.

an 8 core AMD should do the same to a 6 core intel, unless they fail and release really low clock speeds.
Really Intel 4 cores still pwn AMD 6 cores. MATH?
Super XPBecause this Super Fast Bulldozer FX CPU should be "MUCH" faster or equal to Intel's super charged High End CPU. What I think will happen is a good Price Fight for both AMD & Intel for the ultra High End. Remember the FX will not be for everybody, AMD and Intel will still have a lot more competitive and affordable priced CPU's. We are really talking about a niche based CPU IMO for both the FX and the Core i7/i9/i11 etc... IMO...

Who on God's green earth would buy these CPU's :confused:
Intel Core 2 Extreme QX9770 = $ 1,815.99
Intel Core i7 965 Extreme Edition = $ 1,336.99
www.canadacomputers.com/index.php?cPath=4_65&page=1&sort=3d

Need I say More!!! :D
Huh ignored my comment (Truth hurt ?)
Super XPThose prices were yesteryear.
Both those processors are no longer made, and Canadian prices are always inflated!
Super XPNeed I say More!!! :D
:wtf::twitch::shadedshu
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#46
cdawall
where the hell are my stars
well i for one am excited
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#47
Melvis
[H]@RD5TUFFIMO $600 is far too much for an AMD CPU ( I had a 2800+ (barton) and a FX50( and have many AMD CPU's now), and as I stated earlier AMD has yet to place itself in a position where, they are ready to be seen as high end CPU maker.
They did, just no one new about it, poor marketing ether on AMD or BS marketing by Intel, ether way no one new they had great performing CPU's at that time let alone new what AMD even was. The fact is they was but that all ended when conroe came in, and hasn't realy changed since. O and the price of a AMD CPU back then was still cheaper then Intel even though intel's was slower, so nothing has realy changed has it?
[H]@RD5TUFFI think AMD just needs to continue to pump out bang for your buck solid processors and getting closer to Intel in performance with every next gen, and gaining market share, as the average AMD buyer buys because they are cheap and get the job done, not because they are as fast as an Intel CPU.
That would be nice i must admit.
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#48
theubersmurf
KainXSnot raising my hopes but I hope they're decent
If they put out a chip that performs comparably to my i7 920, I'm going to change platforms. Intel's decision to put out a single chipset in association with this socket doesn't do much to foster any sort of faith that they'll maintain another. You could argue that USB 3.0 and Sata 6GB/s were sort of a rarified thing, and that socket 2011 is there to provide a platform capable of handling those newer standards (remember, PCIe 3.0 is not far away) But the idea that socket 1366 has no more life, and that newer platforms couldn't be created for that socket strikes me a load of $*&)#.
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#49
largon
jpierce55Yes, I think it does looks like ATI kept AMD's head above the water. I just hate they killed the ATI name.
ATi's role in AMD's financials is insignificant. CPU business is what floats (or sinks) AMD.
toyoTaking the hype around the card before it's launch in consideration, it is a fail. The 6900 were meant by AMD to go straight to the top, but somehow they failed to predict that Nvidia can refine Fermi so fast.
You got a source to quote?
Or was it just your personal expectation?
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#50
Zubasa
[H]@RD5TUFFReally Intel 4 cores still pwn AMD 6 cores. MATH?
He said AMDX6 is ahead in some areas, READ?
[H]@RD5TUFFHuh ignored my comment (Truth hurt ?)
Making a comment does not make it a fact.
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