Wednesday, September 28th 2011

Electronic Arts' Massive 2012 $1.6m Battlefield 3 Tournament: Consoles Yes, PC No

While PC gamers are getting understandably excited about one of the year's biggest releases, which is guaranteed to have standards-setting graphics at least, there's a kick in the teeth waiting just around the corner. EA and Virgin Gaming have teamed up to launch a massive BF3 contest with $1.6m in cash and prizes - for consoles only. Yes, you read that right. And the reason? Consoles are the "gold standard". That's the aging console platforms reported on TechPowerUp a few days ago. GameStop's president Tony Bartel said in an interview with IndustryGamers:
We continue to believe that the console is a strong platform and will continue to be the gold standard.
The competition website excitingly states:
The biggest, most realistic, room-shaking FPS ever demands a tournament that will always be remembered,” the contest’s sign-up page brags. “That's why Virgin Gaming, and EA DICE have come together to bring you an online competition you'll be telling your grandkids about. So strap on your boots and check your magazine—when the spoils of war are this rich, you can bet things are gonna get messy.
That page then goes on to include links for PS3 & XBOX360 to register, but not the lowly PC. On top of that, it won't even be available on Steam, but gamers will instead have to sign up for the competing EA Origin platform.

This strategy appears to make no sense. Why spend all that money on developing the game only to alienate a massive market segment, even if it's perceived to not be as big as the console one? It will very likely sell massively well to PC gamers regardless, but wouldn't it have made even more dollars by not artificially restricting the competition like this? This goes to show the arrogance and contempt that some big companies show towards their customers and EA is no stranger to controversy, restrictive DRM issues being a major source.Source: Maximum PC
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129 Comments on Electronic Arts' Massive 2012 $1.6m Battlefield 3 Tournament: Consoles Yes, PC No

#1
ThorAxe
Animalpak said:
:toast:


people who have a console in the eyes of EA are money because the majority is synonymous with high earnings, the PC community is a minority this does not carry money ...
Not true:

And then come the non-GAAP revenue figures. It’s all bloody confusing, really. But it breaks down to the 360 bringing in $152m, the PS3 coughing up $111m, and the PC ruling the roost with $154m. This breaks down to the PC and 360 both providing 29% of total non-GAAP revenue, while the PS3 offers 21%. The rest is made up by Wii (3%), PS2 (1%), mobile (11%), PSP (1%), DS (1%) and the mysterious “other” at 4%.

http://www.rockpapershotgun.com/2011/07/27/eas-non-gaap-figures-pc-beating-consoles/
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#2
entropy13
ThorAxe said:
Not true:

And then come the non-GAAP revenue figures. It’s all bloody confusing, really. But it breaks down to the 360 bringing in $152m, the PS3 coughing up $111m, and the PC ruling the roost with $154m. This breaks down to the PC and 360 both providing 29% of total non-GAAP revenue, while the PS3 offers 21%. The rest is made up by Wii (3%), PS2 (1%), mobile (11%), PSP (1%), DS (1%) and the mysterious “other” at 4%.

http://www.rockpapershotgun.com/2011/07/27/eas-non-gaap-figures-pc-beating-consoles/
Yeah, and if we're following that the "PC market" is way smaller than the consoles, that would actually mean that on a per capita basis PC gamers were worth much more to them.
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#3
n-ster
When talking consoles, you usually add Xbox 360 + PS3 + Wii etc together... THEN compare it to PC.

What's GAAP?
If you look at the more accountable accounting of the GAAP figures, the PC trails with $205m to the 360′s $345m and PS3′s $308m.
653m$ with the 2 main consoles, vs 205m$ with PC. That's over 3:1
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#4
entropy13
n-ster said:
653m$ with the 2 main consoles, vs 205m$ with PC. That's over 3:1
And is there a 3:1 consoles to PC ratio as well? :rolleyes:
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#5
pr0n Inspector
The world is not ending. It's a video game for Xenu's sake.
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#6
ThorAxe
n-ster said:
When talking consoles, you usually add Xbox 360 + PS3 + Wii etc together... THEN compare it to PC.

What's GAAP?



653m$ with the 2 main consoles, vs 205m$ with PC. That's over 3:1
That's only EA's earnings. As an industry PC Gaming is crushing the combined console revenue:

"In almost all countries, PC gaming in one of its many guises is the dominant form of gaming."

United States:

$4.3 billion traditional PC games
$2.6 billion MMO’s

Traditional PC Games including MMOs = $6.9 Billion

$2.8 billion Casual Websites
$1.8 billion Social networks

PC Casual Websites + Social networks = $4.6 Billion

Total PC Revenue = $11.5 Billion

$2.1 billion Mobile devices

All Consoles combined = $8.0 billion

http://www.rockpapershotgun.com/2011/07/05/pcgaming-trends-2011/
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#7
qubit
Overclocked quantum bit
ThorAxe said:
That's only EA's earnings. As an industry PC Gaming is crushing the combined console revenue:

"In almost all countries, PC gaming in one of its many guises is the dominant form of gaming."

United States:

$4.3 billion traditional PC games
$2.6 billion MMO’s

Traditional PC Games including MMOs = $7.9 Billion

$2.8 billion Casual Websites
$1.8 billion Social networks

PC Casual Websites + Social networks = $4.6 Billion

Total PC Revenue = $12.5 Billion

$2.1 billion Mobile devices

All Consoles combined = $8.0 billion

http://www.rockpapershotgun.com/2011/07/05/pcgaming-trends-2011/
That's a great find. So why are they crapping on PC gamers so much? :mad:
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#8
Easy Rhino
Linux Advocate
qubit said:
That's a great find. So why are they crapping on PC gamers so much? :mad:
because it is way easier to organize these types of events using a single platform.
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#9
qubit
Overclocked quantum bit
Easy Rhino said:
because it is way easier to organize these types of events using a single platform.
I don't think that's a reasonable excuse for multi-million dollar companies.
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#10
digibucc
qubit said:
I don't think that's a reasonable excuse for multi-million dollar companies.
when you're talking about multi-million dollar tournaments i think it is. if it cost that much just for consoles, how much would adding pcs in cost? even with infrastructure i'd say at least as much, probably more.

there is no denying pcs are more complicated, require more time, and are easier to manipulate to your advantage. i am sure there will be PLENTY of pc tournaments, and dice will probably sponsor one or more - but this one is console only. this company that is actually running it, ONLY runs console tournaments.

i just don't see it as a slap in the face. after the last few years developing the game, let them milk consolers and make some more cash. i got a new gen battlefield game that actually takes advantage of my hardware. i have no complaints.
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#11
qubit
Overclocked quantum bit
If it costs how much for consoles? The $1.6m is the prize money.

And yes, even with potential extra overheads for the PC I can't see it being unmanageable. After all, PC contests have been held many times before.
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#12
Wrigleyvillain
PTFO or GTFO
How did I miss this laughable horseshit earlier? Yeah, sure, buddy, "the gold standard". Six year old hardware and specifically a title that screams impossible-to-ignore performance and visual quality gap between platforms like no other.

But, c'mon, this is the Pres of Gamestop ffs and the operative word is definitely "gold" as in of course this guy is just gonna say whatever keeps bringing it in.

Though I'm also hardly angry or insulted or whatever. Maybe I'm used to boneheaded and short-sighted moves by the likes of these moneygrubbers and, while certainly stupid and unfortunate, it really doesn't affect me at all. At any rate, I'm still going to enjoy BF3 in it's best and true form my PC the same as before. Already am...
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#13
Easy Rhino
Linux Advocate
Wrigleyvillain said:
How did I miss this laughable horseshit earlier? Yeah, sure, buddy, "the gold standard". Six year old hardware and specifically a title that screams impossible-to-ignore performance and visual quality gap between platforms like no other.

But, c'mon, this is the Pres of Gamestop ffs and the operative word is definitely "gold" as in of course this guy is just gonna say whatever keeps bringing it in.

Though I'm also hardly angry or insulted or whatever. Maybe I'm used to boneheaded and short-sighted moves by the likes of these moneygrubbers and, while certainly stupid and unfortunate, it really doesn't affect me at all. At any rate, I'm still going to enjoy BF3 on my PC the same as before. Already am...
that's just it. consoles are easy money. why this surprises or offends anyone is beyond me.
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#14
brandonwh64
Addicted to Bacon and StarCrunches!!!
easy rhino is right, consoles make tons cause it plays games without having to update hardware often. PC changes quite often and you need to keep up with better hardware to adapt.
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#15
Wrigleyvillain
PTFO or GTFO
Yeah it's not just updating the hardware it's also the myriad hardware configs in a PC to say nothing of all the various software also in the mix. Consoles provide control. I certainly understand why they are the larger platform and also why publishers and developers are more eager to provide them content and support than us but don't somehow try to claim they are a superior gaming experience in any way. They aren't even in the same league esp with BF3. Please.
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#16
AsRock
TPU addict
Easy Rhino said:
because it is way easier to organize these types of events using a single platform.
Indeed

qubit said:
I don't think that's a reasonable excuse for multi-million dollar companies.
It's cheaper to do or you don't end up with a multi million doller company.
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#17
epicfail
ive played both betas on console and on pc, the graphics were night and day, :-p kinda hilarious but oh well
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#18
qubit
Overclocked quantum bit
AsRock said:
It's cheaper to do or you don't end up with a multi million doller company.
Indeed it's cheaper, but I still think they could easily have done it and enhanced their profits (sales). However, as neither of us know the inner workings of these companies and all their costs etc, I'm happy to leave it as "the devil is in the details" and leave it at that. :toast:
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#19
[H]@RD5TUFF
qubit said:
Indeed it's cheaper, but I still think they could easily have done it and enhanced their profits (sales). However, as neither of us know the inner workings of these companies and all their costs etc, I'm happy to leave it as "the devil is in the details" and leave it at that. :toast:
I see the lack of PC's in the tourney as a slap in the face to the competitive community and I am sure most others will see it in the same manner.
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#20
qubit
Overclocked quantum bit
[H]@RD5TUFF said:
I see the lack of PC's in the tourney as a slap in the face to the competitive community and I am sure most others will see it in the same manner.
Yup, me too, but if you read through the thread, not everyone agrees with us.
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#21
[H]@RD5TUFF
qubit said:
Yup, me too, but if you read through the thread, not everyone agrees with us.
I think most people of the opinion of "so what" are likely not going to do anything more than casual play, and given how buggy the betas are they likely will get fed up this could be EA's MW2.
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#22
techtard
Is this thing going to have cross-platform play? Will PC players with their mouse+keyboard be allowed in the same servers as XBOX or PS3 users and their controllers and aim-assist?
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#23
AsRock
TPU addict
[H]@RD5TUFF said:
I see the lack of PC's in the tourney as a slap in the face to the competitive community and I am sure most others will see it in the same manner.
Still waiting for the GR days to come back they had killer tournys for that game then UBI screwed all PC gamers by coming out with GRAW. And still have some of those GR tourny missions to and there much better than most games today.

But i think all so companys don't want you to get stuck playing one game as they want to sell you another version of it ASAP.

Arma 2 tournys are very possible just not like they were in GR as you cannot have them as People v's computer.
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#24
digibucc
techtard said:
Is this thing going to have cross-platform play? Will PC players with their mouse+keyboard be allowed in the same servers as XBOX or PS3 users and their controllers and aim-assist?
no. i really doubt that will ever happen in a AAA title for real competitive fpses. the different controllers really require different play styles, and they don't mix well.
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#25
[H]@RD5TUFF
digibucc said:
no. i really doubt that will ever happen in a AAA title for real competitive fpses. the different controllers really require different play styles, and they don't mix well.
Yep no one likes to play with skill against auto aim.
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