Friday, October 19th 2012

AMD Third-Generation APUs to be Built on 28 nm Process

A leaked company roadmap slide revealed that AMD's third-generation performance APU, codenamed "Kaveri," will be built on the 28 nm silicon fabrication process. The chips will be built by Global Foundries. Kaveri combines AMD's next-generation CPU architecture codenamed "Steamroller" with Graphics CoreNext GPU architecture.

In addition to Kaveri, AMD will introduce a major update to its low-power APU lineup with "Kabini." A true successor to "Brazos," Kabini features x86-64 cores built on the energy-optimized "Jaguar" architecture (which succeeds "Bobcat," on which Brazos APUs are built). It is also mentioned that Kabini will be a true system-on-chip (SoC), with integration of the FCH chipset into the APU silicon. Such an integration could increase die size and complexity, but could also minimize the board footprint of the platform, making it possible to use the SoC in thin tablets, and COMs.
In addition to the two, AMD touched on its ultra low power APU, codename "Temash." Like Kabini, Temash is a single-chip SoC, but extremely power optimized (we're talking about TDP numbers under 5W), making the chip optimized to compact tablets, and who knows, smartphones? Lastly, there's a mention of AMD's next-generation "Sea Islands" GPU architecture. AMD is promising "major GPU architecture enhancements," and confirmed that the new chips will be built on 28 nm process.
Source: MyDrivers
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25 Comments on AMD Third-Generation APUs to be Built on 28 nm Process

#1
AlienIsGOD
Vanguard Beta Tester
but will it require a new socket? or be FM2 compatible?
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btarunr
Editor & Senior Moderator
AlienIsGODbut will it require a new socket? or be FM2 compatible?
It will work on FM2.

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#3
iO
Lets hope they´ll get their new line up out with no delays...
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#4
AlienIsGOD
Vanguard Beta Tester
very good :D At least now I know my soon to be purchased FM2 board will have a CPU upgrade path (im getting an Asrock A75 and a A10 5800K :D )
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#5
tacosRcool
AlienIsGODvery good :D At least now I know my soon to be purchased FM2 board will have a CPU upgrade path (im getting an Asrock A75 and a A10 5800K :D )
I got the ASRock FM2A75 Pro4-M and it is pretty awesome for the price
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#6
suraswami
Hopefully the layoffs are not affecting this. If they move their As* faster and shake their brains they could release these on time or before time and will be back on track. Mobile computing is the future and if AMD capitalize it they have future.

when is the price cut on the FM2 chips?
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#7
eidairaman1
The Exiled Airman
probably not till the 3rd gen is ready to launch
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#8
Chaitanya
AMD is consistently behind Intel when it comes to manufacturing process :shadedshu.
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#9
TheoneandonlyMrK
ChaitanyaAMD is consistently behind Intel when it comes to manufacturing process .
usefull post not, everyones behind intel,,, some more then others tho as you have intels rear too:p
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AlienIsGOD
Vanguard Beta Tester
tacosRcoolI got the ASRock FM2A75 Pro4-M and it is pretty awesome for the price
im getting the Pro 4, Non M version :D
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#11
xenocide
ChaitanyaAMD is consistently behind Intel when it comes to manufacturing process :shadedshu.
It's largely because Intel owns its own Fabs, and makes assloads of money so they can hire the best engineers and tools in the industry to ensure they make the transitions as smoothly as possible. Global Foundries spent a ton snatching up engineers from IBM and other competing companies, to try and get itself in a similar position, not sure how well it worked though.
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#12
MxPhenom 216
ASIC Engineer
ChaitanyaAMD is consistently behind Intel when it comes to manufacturing process :shadedshu.
Because Intel has so much money and resources, AND not to mention time to be able to refine their process and manufacturing.
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#13
cdawall
where the hell are my stars
ChaitanyaAMD is consistently behind Intel when it comes to manufacturing process :shadedshu.
Actually AMD has been ahead manufacturing process for while. Intel keeps downsizing without refining hence them openly commenting on how they could not have designed a true monolithic quad core on 65nm. I assumed it was a ell known fact that AMD's processes were a lot cleaner amd overall better hence the lack of variations between chips. Ie a phenom 910 will clock roughly as high as a phenom 970 (until reaching extreme scenarios) vs the massive variations between Intel chips ie 3570k vs 3770k even 3770k vs 3770k.
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#14
suraswami
MxPhenom 216Because Intel STOLE so much money and resources, AND not to mention time to be able to refine their process and manufacturing.
corrected :laugh:
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#15
HumanSmoke
xenocideGlobal Foundries spent a ton snatching up engineers from IBM and other competing companies, to try and get itself in a similar position, not sure how well it worked though.
A good indicator might be GloFo's own slides. According to them, they're up and running with 28nm HKMG already and FD-SOI is due in a couple of months or so...


Given that low power chips are just being sampled now, you might be able to extrapolate time to market for the APU's.
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#16
Absolution
This will be processor Ill be waiting for, hopefully it will have a decent dual graphics combo.
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#18
HumanSmoke
seronxThis is old information which has been available since February
AMD probably re-released the press notice just in case people forgot about it...and maybe figured that they needed to round up some "feel good" PR to balance out Q3 report.

Closing at $2.18I would suggest that at least one sector isn't buying into the strategy
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#19
Super XP
This might mean something. It may be that Trinity/Vishera FX may be short lived. Perhaps will be replaced quickly within 6 to 8 months of it's release. Obviously this is good news for both consumers and AMD. They seem quite confident with its 3rd Generation. One is hoping they get Steamroller out the door ASAP in 2013. :D
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#20
makwy2
Hmmm, I hope AMD can hit a homerun soon... otherwise they will be out for the count very soon.
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#21
nt300
makwy2Hmmm, I hope AMD can hit a homerun soon... otherwise they will be out for the count very soon.
Wont happen they have strong APUs keeping them in the game and cost/perform much better than anything Intel can offer. Just imagin a APU Quad-Core with graphics for under $100 :eek: and can still do wanyting you would normily do on your PC including play games.
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#22
eidairaman1
The Exiled Airman
nt300Wont happen they have strong APUs keeping them in the game and cost/perform much better than anything Intel can offer. Just imagin a APU Quad-Core with graphics for under $100 :eek: and can still do wanyting you would normily do on your PC including play games.
might verywell be steamroller architecture
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#23
NeoXF
AbsolutionThis will be processor Ill be waiting for, hopefully it will have a decent dual graphics combo.
Look up some Radeon HD 7750 CrossFire benches (preferably with recent drivers)... hopefully it should get close to that, if the rumors about Kaveri are true than it should fit perfectly with a HD 7750 GDDR3 or 5. As a comparison, it should end up faster than a R7850 by quite a bit.
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#24
nt300
Why is Charlie saying the Kaveri APU wil be delayed to 2014? This would kill AMD if true. They need the Steamroller as soon as possible imo.
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#25
Fourstaff
nt300Why is Charlie saying the Kaveri APU wil be delayed to 2014? This would kill AMD if true. They need the Steamroller as soon as possible imo.
Why? Piledriver is fairly competitive against Intel's offering right now (but fails miserably in power dept, something not many care). Unless Intel's next trick in the book (Haswell?) significantly improves on Ivy Bridge pricing will allow AMD to still be competitive against Intel. Unless, of course, you are hoping AMD leapfrog Intel. That will unfortunately not happen anytime soon.
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