Thursday, July 4th 2013

DirectX 11.2 Exclusive to Windows 8.1 and Xbox One

Our recent editorial on adoption of Windows 8.1 by PC enthusiasts concluded saying "...and Microsoft isn't stopping with its innovations that will get increasingly out of reach for Windows 7 users." It looks like the first of such innovations is DirectX 11.2. Microsoft revealed that the latest version of its multimedia API will require Windows 8.1 on the PC, and comes built into its next-generation Xbox One console. With this, Microsoft established that you will need Windows 8.1 or later, to access future versions of DirectX.

Microsoft has often used the tactic of limiting DirectX versions to certain versions of Windows, often citing driver-model changes, to force PC enthusiasts to either upgrade, or lag behind in PC technology, and in the past it worked. Windows XP capped out at DirectX 9.0c, forcing gamers to upgrade to Windows Vista, to experience cutting-edge games of the time, such as "Crysis," with new visual effects that DirectX 10 brought to the scene. DirectX 11.0 had the unique distinction of spanning across Windows Vista and Windows 7. DirectX 11.1 was exclusive to Windows 8 and above, as it required WDDM 1.2 (Windows display driver model). The Direct3D component of the API didn't bring anything substantial to the scene. With Windows 8.1, Microsoft is introducing DirectX 11.2, it requires WDDM 1.3, which the operating system introduces. Since Windows 8.1 will be offered as a free upgrade to current Windows 8 users, it's effectively the Windows 7 user-base, that's being asked to take a hike.

DirectX 11.2 introduces a few new Direct3D features that could matter to games. The "D3D tiled resources" feature is analogous to OpenGL MegaTexture, implemented on id Software's "Rage." The feature offers a better alternative to the current model of streaming textures as a 3D scene is being rendered; by letting developers use larger textures that are fewer in number. Portions of these giant monolithic textures would be accessed by an application, as they become relevant to the scene being rendered. The complete texture needn't be loaded to the memory. In essence, mega-textures heralds a sort of virtual memory system to GPUs, and shifts the focus from increasingly larger video memory to faster memory.

With Windows 7 user-base being cut out from DirectX 11.2, game developers may think twice before spending time to implement D3D tiled resources, but there's also Xbox One to consider. DirectX 11.2 is at the heart of the console, and Microsoft could recommend developers to take advantage of tiled resources, to optimally use the console's limited hardware resources. That could hasten the adoption of DirectX 11.2 by developers, on the PC front.

Among the features DirectX 11.2 introduces are:
  • HLSL shader linking
  • Inbox HLSL compiler
  • GPU overlay support
  • DirectX tiled resources
  • Direct3D low-latency presentation API
  • DXGI Trim API and map default buffer
  • Frame buffer scaling
  • Multithreading with SurfaceImageSource
  • Interactive Microsoft DirectX composition of XAML visual elements
  • Direct2D batching with SurfaceImageSource
Sources: Microsoft, NextPowerUp
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192 Comments on DirectX 11.2 Exclusive to Windows 8.1 and Xbox One

#1
Tatty_One
Super Moderator
TheMailMan78 said:
Everyone in this thread is just butt hurt and crying like 12 year old girls on their first ovulation because they are going to have to upgrade to get the latest DX.

Linux sucks for games.....and everything else unless you were born with a slide ruler shoved up your ass.
Mac is late getting games and they hardly get AAA titles nevermind the premium on hardware.

So at the end of the day this whole thread is the inevitable fact all you people bitching will be upgrading to windows 8. Taste that?...........That's what they call crow.
Taking your comments into account, and games development in reaction to the introduction of DX10 and DX11, as long as users upgrade to Win 8.1 by around 2015/16 then they will miss out on very little in reality :D
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#2
mab1376
This is exactly why Valve is porting their games to Linux.
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#4
vega22
once steam gets linux support i wont need to use windows....
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#5
devguy
marsey99 said:
once steam gets linux support i wont need to use windows....
It does have Linux support...
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#6
Frick
Fishfaced Nincompoop
marsey99 said:
once steam gets linux support i wont need to use windows....
It already has, as stated, but that does not mean all Steam games work with Linux.
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#7
Ebo
Does it really matter, just wait for win 9, who cares :nutkick:
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#8
omnimodis78
I'm not buying most of the hate speech on here about what Microsoft decided to do with 11.2 Firstly, it's clearly meant for their console, so putting it on the PC is sort of just a secondary thing, I'm sure of it. Yeah, I do agree that Windows 7 could very easily get full 11.1 and 11.2, but again, this isn't anything new. You want the "best" version of something, then get the latest software edition, 8.1 being just that. And yes, I think developers will utilize 11.2 more than some of you think, because if it's on the console, and it actually makes a quantifiable difference to use it (and it does), then it will get used...and that will most likely find it on the PC ported side of things also. Time will tell I guess.
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#9
TheMailMan78
Big Member
SIGSEGV said:
or it because you had some difficulties installing linux operating system in your rig ?
let's see what will happen in the next future with PS4 runs with openGL API
Nope. Installed Mint for a week realized its as user friendly as a colonoscopy and went back to windows. I mean honesty you guys ain't fooling anyone. If DX is no big deal why the 80 something posts of butt hurt raging. This forum has become so predictable. If you guys can't afford Windows 8 that's fine. But don't trash it because you can't afford it. That's very unbecoming of a technology forum member.
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#10
theoneandonlymrk
TheMailMan78 said:
Nope. Installed Mint for a week realized its as user friendly as a colonoscopy and went back to windows. I mean honesty you guys ain't fooling anyone. If DX is no big deal why the 80 something posts of butt hurt raging. This forum has become so predictable. If you guys can't afford Windows 8 that's fine. But don't trash it because you can't afford it. That's very unbecoming of a technology forum member.
Some own win8 but don't like thr ui so much they don't use it.
I get what your saying but id rather ms levied better features , content and connect ability then just cut off features from 7 , its the bs strongarming that's unnecessary and annoying, oh and since you don't have a point bar were all dicks stop trollin.
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#11
Fourstaff
DirectX 9c is still usable by almost all major releases out there, so can you please tell me why are we bitching about DX11.2?
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#12
BigMack70
Nothing even uses DX11 fully yet, this is meaningless. Show me some games that benefit first and then we can talk about buying POS 8.1
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#13
Deadlyraver
BigMack70 said:
Nothing even uses DX11 fully yet, this is meaningless. Show me some games that benefit first and then we can talk about buying POS 8.1
Good call.
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#14
MxPhenom 216
Corsair Fanboy
Good lord, I think we need a............



For a few in this thread.

What I truly don't understand is why people don't use windows 8, and then if they hate the UI so much, use Start8 or Classic Shell? That way you get all the performance enhancements, while staying with your beloved Windows 7 UI. :laugh:

Unless Windows 8 does not support software you use on a daily basis, or manufacture of a specific hardware or device doesn't have drivers for windows 8, theres not much of a reason to not use Windows 8 with all the options out there to get it to function like Windows 7 in minutes.
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#15
newtekie1
Semi-Retired Folder
MxPhenom 216 said:
What I truly don't understand is why people don't use windows 8, and then if they hate the UI so much, use Start8 or Classic Shell? That way you get all the performance enhancements, while staying with your beloved Windows 7 UI.

Unless Windows 8 does not support software you use on a daily basis, or manufacture of a specific hardware or device doesn't have drivers for windows 8, theres not much of a reason to not use Windows 8 with all the options out there to get it to function like Windows 7 in minutes.
I've been using Win8 since pre-release, and all the performance enhancements aren't noticeable. The only one that might be noticeable would be booting from a HDD, and even then the difference is seconds, and if you are using an SSD the difference it totally unnoticeable. Everything else the difference in performance is totally unnoticeable. So why don't people use Windows 8? Because it really has nothing to offer them, so there is no point in spending the money to move to it from Windows 7. If they already have a Windows 7 license, there really is no point in paying $100 for Windows 8. In fact, I don't understand why people would pay $100+ for Windows 8 when they already have Windows 7. Heck, the money would better be spent on upgrading from an HDD to an SSD.
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MxPhenom 216
Corsair Fanboy
newtekie1 said:
I've been using Win8 since pre-release, and all the performance enhancements aren't noticeable. The only one that might be noticeable would be booting from a HDD, and even then the difference is seconds, and if you are using an SSD the difference it totally unnoticeable. Everything else the difference in performance is totally unnoticeable. So why don't people use Windows 8? Because it really has nothing to offer them, so there is no point in spending the money to move to it from Windows 7. If they already have a Windows 7 license, there really is no point in paying $100 for Windows 8. In fact, I don't understand why people would pay $100+ for Windows 8 when they already have Windows 7. Heck, the money would better be spent on upgrading from an HDD to an SSD.
Maybe they are not noticeable to you, but Windows 8 Pro on my file server with significantly weaker hardware then my main rig is noticeable faster and more responsive then my main gaming rig with 7 on it.
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#17
AsRock
TPU addict
TheMailMan78 said:
Nope. Installed Mint for a week realized its as user friendly as a colonoscopy and went back to windows. I mean honesty you guys ain't fooling anyone. If DX is no big deal why the 80 something posts of butt hurt raging. This forum has become so predictable. If you guys can't afford Windows 8 that's fine. But don't trash it because you can't afford it. That's very unbecoming of a technology forum member.
Buy it why the hell you need to buy it ?.. They let you try it out so no point in buying it if you did not like it in the 1st place..

MxPhenom 216 said:
Good lord, I think we need a............

http://media.twirlit.com/wp-content/uploads/2013/01/whambulance-600x328.jpg

For a few in this thread.

What I truly don't understand is why people don't use windows 8, and then if they hate the UI so much, use Start8 or Classic Shell? That way you get all the performance enhancements, while staying with your beloved Windows 7 UI. :laugh:

Unless Windows 8 does not support software you use on a daily basis, or manufacture of a specific hardware or device doesn't have drivers for windows 8, theres not much of a reason to not use Windows 8 with all the options out there to get it to function like Windows 7 in minutes.
Why the hell would i want to buy some thing that i have to mod to make it look and feel how i want it and clearly the wrong message to give to MS as they got ya money they don't care and why help the sales of some thing that you do not approve of.

Whats not to get ?..

Have enough of the government and it's BS( all Americans Insured crap but that's another story which you can truly do shit about ) so one thing for sure i am not going pay some one to make some thing i dislike.
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#18
Mussels
Moderprator
TheMailMan78 said:
Nope. Installed Mint for a week realized its as user friendly as a colonoscopy and went back to windows. I mean honesty you guys ain't fooling anyone. If DX is no big deal why the 80 something posts of butt hurt raging. This forum has become so predictable. If you guys can't afford Windows 8 that's fine. But don't trash it because you can't afford it. That's very unbecoming of a technology forum member.
i own it. my brother owns it. many of my friends own it (the $15 upgrade)


none of us use it, because the UI is asshat backwards. i got paid to fix a win 8 users printer problems, and windows kept taking me to the metro 'devices' app where printers have NO OPTIONS AT ALL. i had to load the printer settings through fracking IE!


the OS is decent, but metro totally fecks it over.
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#19
rangerone766
why all the hate over win 8? yes the missing start button was stupid to not include. but there are many free progs. out there that give you the star button back.

microcenter had full versions for like $20 dollars or so at launch. I bought 2. 1 for my night stand pc and one for the main. main is still on 7 only because I haven't gotten around to reformatting yet. but my secondary has 8 and runs great. just a e8500 dual core @ 4.2ghz 4 gigs of ddr2 and a gtx285, runs flawless. actually if just surfing or watching vids it is just as fast as my sandy rig.

Stop being all butthurt over Microsoft, they will do what they want regardless. and windows 8 is ok. 8.1 with a stock start button, should be better than 7.
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#20
newtekie1
Semi-Retired Folder
MxPhenom 216 said:
Maybe they are not noticeable to you, but Windows 8 Pro on my file server with significantly weaker hardware then my main rig is noticeable faster and more responsive then my main gaming rig with 7 on it.
And when is the last time you reformatted your main gaming rig?;)

I've found the speed improvements people talk about are more an effect of starting fresh and not really Win8.
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#21
Mussels
Moderprator
newtekie1 said:
And when is the last time you reformatted your main gaming rig?;)

I've found the speed improvements people talk about are more an effect of starting fresh and not really Win8.
this is why i love putting my non-gaming stuff in a virtual machine, i close the VM and its always got that 'fresh' feel :)
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#22
rtwjunkie
PC Gaming Enthusiast
rangerone766 said:
8.1 with a stock start button, should be better than 7.
Which.....are you ready for it? Takes you to the start screen you can't avoid unless you pay extra and/or install Start8/ModernMix or Classic Shell to make it work without that damned Start Screen, which has zero functionality.

My testing has shown me that it is dumbed down....it's like "MS for Dummies," with your ability to control many things gone. You need the desktop.
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#23
TRWOV
Mussels said:

none of us use it, because the UI is asshat backwards. i got paid to fix a win 8 users printer problems, and windows kept taking me to the metro 'devices' app where printers have NO OPTIONS AT ALL. i had to load the printer settings through fracking IE!
windows+r > "control printers" > enter

or

windows + x > p > Printers and devices


Satisfied W8 user here :D
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#24
Mussels
Moderprator
TRWOV said:
windows+r > "control printers" > enter

or

windows + x > p > Printers and devices


Satisfied W8 user here :D
so you're saying to use the OS, all new users must memorise keyboard shortcuts to reach them, and the menu labelled 'devices and printers' is what, just to troll people?
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#25
TRWOV
windows + r > "control printers" > enter has worked since XP

windows + x > p is the new one. Less typing. Or windows + i > Control Panel > Devices and printers. Or windows + c > Configuration > Control Panel > Devices and printers.


And yes, power users should familiarize with system shorcuts IMO.
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