Monday, July 6th 2015

Samsung Intros 2 TB Variants of 850 Pro and 850 EVO SSDs

Samsung Electronics Co., Ltd., a market leader in advanced memory technology and an innovator in consumer electronics, today introduced the 2-terabyte (TB) 850 PRO and 850 EVO solid state drives (SSDs). Samsung's 3D Vertical NAND (V-NAND) based retail SSD lineup now features 20 different products with a wide range of capacity options from 120 gigabyte (GB) to 2TB. Available in 50 countries, the launch of the 2TB drives addresses the ever-increasing consumer demand for high-performance and high-capacity memory solutions.

"Samsung experienced a surge in demand for 500 gigabyte (GB) and higher capacity SSDs with the introduction of our V-NAND SSDs. The release of the 2TB SSD is a strong driver into the era of multi-terabyte SSD solutions," said Un-Soo Kim, Senior Vice President of Branded Product Marketing, Memory Business at Samsung Electronics. "We will continue to expand our ultra-high performance and large density SSD product portfolio and provide a new computing experience to users around the globe."
The new 2TB 850 SSD PRO and EVO drives remain in the same 7-millimeter, 2.5-inch aluminum case as their predecessors did. Equipped with Samsung's advanced chip solutions, including 128 individual Samsung 32-layer 128Gb 3D V-NAND flash chips, an upgraded high-performance MHX controller that supports 2TB capacity, and four 20nm-class process technology-based 4Gb LPDDR3 DRAM chips, the 2TB 850 family provides industry-leading performance and power efficiency. With added capacity, professionals and consumers can experience a smoother computing environment prepared for the intense demands of rich content such as 4K UHD video editing and viewing.

Samsung guarantees the 2TB 850 PRO for 10 years or 300 terabytes written (TBW), and the 2TB 850 EVO for five years or 150 TBW.

Following the launch of the 2TB 850 drives, Samsung will expand high capacity 3D V-NAND SSD lineups to include mSATA and M.2 form factors to address the gaming PC, laptop PC and high performance SSD markets.
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23 Comments on Samsung Intros 2 TB Variants of 850 Pro and 850 EVO SSDs

#1
newtekie1
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Any guess on price? I'm going to guess at least $1,250.
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nickbaldwin86
newtekie1
Any guess on price? I'm going to guess at least $1,250.
elsewhere I have read $800 MSRP... but $1250 is LOL no ... 1TB 850Pro drives under $500 now. So a 2TB isn't going to jack the price more than $500... so even at $1000 it is $.50 a GB
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#5
RejZoR
Now we're talking. Now I just have to wait a bit more for prices to drop. I think I'll be able to buy one in a year or two. 2TB will be just fine to directly replace my 2TB HDD. So I can finally get rid of the spinning data storage plates. It's really the only archaic thing in my system that hasn't changed for decades. Everything else has evolved dramatically.
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#6
Ikaruga
500GB versions of the EVOs are already $160 on Amazon now, and probably will drop huge on the upcoming Amazon anniversary sale. Personally I wouldn't buy anything with TLC nands for myself, but a couple of those could turn out to be a better deal for somebody on the budget (and not on Linux:p)
RejZoR
Now we're talking. Now I just have to wait a bit more for prices to drop. I think I'll be able to buy one in a year or two. 2TB will be just fine to directly replace my 2TB HDD. So I can finally get rid of the spinning data storage plates. It's really the only archaic thing in my system that hasn't changed for decades. Everything else has evolved dramatically.
SSD in PC and NAS "far away" for storage?
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#7
2big2fail
My 1TB 840 Evo is looking at me and saying "This is not an open relationship." :laugh:
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#9
nickbaldwin86
newtekie1
Not bad, but still way overpriced. IMO, SSDs won't make good consumer data storage until they are in the $0.25/GB range.
but of course... but also good luck getting those read/writes from a HDD ;)

Also not many "consumers" need 2TB at those read/writes... a HDD does just fine for backups and high volume storage. I can stream 1080p movies without lag from my Green drives... 4k might be a different story
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newtekie1
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nickbaldwin86
but of course... but also good luck getting those read/writes from a HDD ;)

Also not many "consumers" need 2TB at those read/writes... a HDD does just fine for backups and high volume storage. I can stream 1080p movies without lag from my Green drives... 4k might be a different story
You kind of just replied to yourself there, didn't you?

These are consumer level drives, so who needs them? Rich people with too much money, but I'm not one of those.

You know, I'd gladly take a 3.5" drive with more older/cheaper/slower chips for storage SSDs of this size. If they could bring out a $250 2TB SSD using the slower older tech, even if it only had 250MB/s read/write, I'd snatch it up in a heartbeat and never buy HDDs again. They'd still have the next to 0ms latencies, which is what really makes an SSD seem fast. I know they'd need to make the PCB bigger, which means a 3.5" drive, but I don't care. It is going in a desktop or my server anyway, so it just means I won't need to buy a 2.5" to 3.5" adapter.
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#11
The Von Matrices
newtekie1
You know, I'd gladly take a 3.5" drive with more older/cheaper/slower chips for storage SSDs of this size. If they could bring out a $250 2TB SSD using the slower older tech, even if it only had 250MB/s read/write, I'd snatch it up in a heartbeat and never buy HDDs again. They'd still have the next to 0ms latencies, which is what really makes an SSD seem fast. I know they'd need to make the PCB bigger, which means a 3.5" drive, but I don't care. It is going in a desktop or my server anyway, so it just means I won't need to buy a 2.5" to 3.5" adapter.
The flaw in your logic is that in any chip, the cost of the chip is more dependent on the area of silicon used than the process node on which the silicon is fabricated. Price per transistor drops with every new process, so older (larger) process nodes are more expensive for the same capacity drive. Thus you will never see a cheap drive that uses old technology, except perhaps immediately after a new node is released and yields are low (or during clearance sales).
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#12
newtekie1
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The Von Matrices
The problem with your logic is that the cost of any SSD is more dependent on the area of silicon used in the drive than the process node on which the silicon is fabricated. Older (larger) process nodes are more expensive for the same capacity drive because they use the wafer less efficiently. Thus you will never see a cheap drive that uses old technology; the cheapest drives will always be using the latest NAND technology.
If that was true and i3 would be the same price as an i7 because they both use the same amount of die space. Don't kid yourself, the actual cost of the raw materials is not what makes these drives expensive. You are paying for the cost of research for them to move to the new processes, as well as paying a large amount to the "because we can" charge.
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#13
Rowsol
newtekie1
Not bad, but still way overpriced. IMO, SSDs won't make good consumer data storage until they are in the $0.25/GB range.
Yea, you can have 3 cents a GB or 40 cents. Hard decision.
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#14
Fx
I don't perform any task or provide any service that could assist me in justifying the purchase of this.

Once the price gets to <$.30/GB, I'll reevaluate.
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#16
R-T-B
MaKCuMyC
will buy that one for 100$
Good luck.
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#17
Uplink10
nickbaldwin86
I can stream 1080p movies without lag from my Green drives... 4k might be a different story
4K is the same story becuse if bitrate of BD50 is let's say 50 Mbps (which is too much for BD50 movies nowadays which have max bitrate more aroud 40 Mbps) then bitrate of 4K movie would be just 200 Mbps and that is only 25 MB/s and as you can see there is a lot of headroom available and even more if you are using RAID or ZFS.

Timescapes movie is in 4K and has bitrate of 900 Mbps but that movie is actually made using time-lapse and that means that it is made using individual photos from professional photo camera and pieced together. So this is not your usual, consumer 4K movie bitrate.
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#18
RejZoR
I'd buy one for 300€. I don't know how much that equates to moniz/GB. I think I paid around 220€ for the 2TB Caviar Black so that would feel like a fair price...
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#19
Legacy-ZA
So, almost 6 years have passed since we started seeing SSD's being made available for the consumer masses. The prices are still ridiculously high, it was even advertised how much cheaper it will be to manufacture than their mechanical counterparts... yet, the price is still at a premium

Most excuses revolved around the supply and demand, so what will it be now eh? l will say this, there are just too many people with more money than common sense these days and this is why the price has remained as such.

Unless the prices for SSD's come down drastically, I will never ever purchase one, sure I will wait a minute or so longer for boot up and longer load screens in-game but on general principal, I will not buy one.
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#20
bogami
Announced 2TB SSDdisk here and the fact that there are only 4 memory units (by ~ 500 gb) to could offer also 8Tb. model without problems. Test results are excellent and M.2, mSATA model is likely to follow.
The price is high, and will probably fall .
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#21
Fx
Legacy-ZA
So, almost 6 years have passed since we started seeing SSD's being made available for the consumer masses. The prices are still ridiculously high, it was even advertised how much cheaper it will be to manufacture than their mechanical counterparts... yet, the price is still at a premium

Most excuses revolved around the supply and demand, so what will it be now eh? l will say this, there are just too many people with more money than common sense these days and this is why the price has remained as such.

Unless the prices for SSD's come down drastically, I will never ever purchase one, sure I will wait a minute or so longer for boot up and longer load screens in-game but on general principal, I will not buy one.
Items are worth what people are willing to pay. This value is perceived through tangible differences in the user's experience. SSDs drastically improve speed on more things than just boot up and gaming load times. Perhaps if you had different uses, like other people do, then you would find more value in them.
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#22
joyman
Speed is not the only argument - silence is what makes me buy second ssd and get rid of that monster that sometimes wakes me up at night.
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#23
xorbe
I'm game for a 2 TB ssd when a non-TLC model hits $699.
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