Sunday, January 10th 2016

AMD "Polaris" Based Prototypes Sniffed Out at Logistics

Four prototype graphics cards based on GPUs that implement AMD's next-generation Graphics CoreNext architecture, codenamed "Polaris," were sniffed out, as they were making their way through air-cargo. At least two prototypes marked "C981" and "C980" made their way from Hong Kong, to Hyderabad, India, between late-December 2015 and early-January. It's speculated that the two could be SKUs based on the same chip.
Source: iLeakStuff at OCN Forums
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#1
alwayssts
So, if I'm understanding this right, their values are roughly around $125, $150, <$350 and $400 respectfully?

Well, that sounds pretty much completely expected for a not-really-but-probably-more-or-less Fiji shrink. It's interesting their relative values are also pretty much proportional to the MSRP of Fury and Fury X ($550/$650).


Hey look, now Palmer can advertise VR as a $1000 upgrade for most people. :)


Cool to see that a chip that large is getting back to AMD already...granted I can't imagine an 8-core zen is THAT much smaller (and one can assume that's going through a year-long validation etc process). I also didn't realize whatever they've been demoing seems to have been first (granted, probably a VERY early sample) sent back in August...didn't know it was that early. I'm sure it's been re-spun at least once since then and whatever they are demoing is actually production silicon where that may not have even been close, but still.

While I understand the ~ps4/950 and 4k30/high-quality vr (et al other resolutions/frame rates for that level of performance) markets are probably the most important, it's still odd not to see a successor to Tonga, given other than HEVC it seemed the most straight forward chip to shrink (given it actually doubled the setup engines etc, unlike Fiji). I guess one possible explanation for that is perhaps they are waiting to equip it with some fashion of 256gbps HBM/HBM2 and perhaps better yields for better sustained higher clockspeeds on a slightly bigger chip (something like 1920sp/1200mhz give or take a CU and less than 100mhz?). That, or maybe they're all going to Nintendo (Just kidding...but one can hope!).

I suppose these are the two chips they were talking about then...very curious if/when we see 2x the bottom-end (or 1/2 the top-end) and 8x the low-end (2x the higher-end)....because it certainly *seems* possible based on what they've been showing. I guess convential wisdom would be 1 year if performance levels double (or cost decreases 1/2) every two years...which would imply a Fury X-like price a year after the ~Fiji-level $400 card.

As always, thanks for the tip TPU!
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#2
arbiter
For arguement sake if they are prototypes and they only now getting send to their lab, def means got many months yet, a q3 date def looks earliest for amd's new cards.
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#3
Hiryougan
arbiterFor arguement sake if they are prototypes and they only now getting send to their lab, def means got many months yet, a q3 date def looks earliest for amd's new cards.
Remember that they had one Polaris card on CES. The one that had performance on par with 950 but the whole pc with it drained like 80W from the wall.
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#4
nemesis.ie
How long was it before we saw cards for sale when we heard about Fiji cards making this trip?
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#5
arbiter
HiryouganRemember that they had one Polaris card on CES. The one that had performance on par with 950 but the whole pc with it drained like 80W from the wall.
Even though AMD claimed that, sadly last 3-4 years or so for them have me asking if they pulled some trickery. Lets be truthful AMD hasn't exactly had good track record of late of being 100% truthful in their claims. I will wait til indepedent reviews rear up to back it.
nemesis.ieHow long was it before we saw cards for sale when we heard about Fiji cards making this trip?
Well i don't think can really look back at that since it used 28nm which was a mature node. With new cards being on 16/14nm kinda makes testing of prototypes even more important.
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#6
Moofachuka
Ok, so I guess they're not doing well in GPU sales and Nvidia's doing better than them. So now they're pulling this Polaris PR hoping consumers save their money for next gen, and slow down Nvidia sales at the same time. While their software did improve a lot, their hardware didn't come up to our expectation.
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Xzibit
WCCTech - AMD Shows “Enthusiast” Polaris GPU To Journalists At CES 2016
WCCTechAMD has reportedly just revealed its 2nd Polaris GPU. An “enthusiast” class chip to succeed the R9 Fury X and R9 390X graphics cards. This update came in via Tweaktown, who report to have been shown a second Polaris GPU – which they weren’t allowed to photograph – besides the small Polaris graphics chip that AMD has already demoed against Nvidia’s GTX 950 last week.
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#10
Stefan Payne
Lets hope this card is way better than everything on the market.

But even then I fear it is not enough to gain some market share because aof those damn nV Fans that always habe to buy nVidia, even if there are better alternatives...

Sad thing is that even if AMD is better than nVidia, they don't make much profit of it due to that...
Was that way with the HD5800 series as well as with the 7900 series...

And the people don't seem to learn that the AMD cards last way longer...
Take a look at where the GK104 cards are standing now...
They are on par with the Radeon HD7800 series cards, the 7900 series cards perform much better...

This was always the case and is due to nVidias 'driver voodoo'...

But when a card goes EOL, they don't care shit...
See Witcher 3 on GTX780 and Titan cards...
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