Tuesday, March 15th 2016

AMD Radeon Pro Duo up to 51 Percent Faster than GeForce GTX TITAN Z

The new AMD Radeon Pro Duo, announced earlier today, takes the crown for being the world's fastest graphics card. According to the company's internal testing, in which it compared the card to its previous-generation flagship Radeon R9 295X2, and NVIDIA's fastest card, the GeForce GTX TITAN Z, on 3DMark FireStrike, at resolutions of 1080p, 1440p, and 2160p; the Pro Duo was found to be as much as 51 percent faster than the GTX TITAN Z. The three cards were tested on a machine with a Core i7-5960X processor, 16 GB of quad-channel DDR4 memory, Windows 10, v15.301 driver for the AMD cards, and GeForce 361.91 drivers for the NVIDIA card.

At 1080p, the Radeon Pro Duo scores 20150 points, compared to 16717 points of the R9 295X2, and 14945 points of the GTX TITAN Z, the Radeon Pro Duo leads the GTX TITAN Z by 34.8 percent in this resolution. At 1440p, the Radeon Pro Duo scores 11466 points, compared to 9250 points for the R9 295X2, and 7740 points of the GTX TITAN Z; the Pro Duo leads the GTX TITAN Z by 48.13 percent. Finally, at the resolution which really matters for this product, 4K Ultra HD, the Radeon Pro Duo scores 6211 points, compared to the 5121 points of the R9 295X2, and 4099 points of the GTX TITAN Z.
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63 Comments on AMD Radeon Pro Duo up to 51 Percent Faster than GeForce GTX TITAN Z

#1
Naito
Good news for AMD, but after my quick foray into the dual GPU camp, never again unless something major changes. Even when drivers and games play nice, there always seems to be little niggles with it.
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#2
Azumay
Not for me either, but glad to see it happen. Some will buy it, but doubt it will be common at all.
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#3
Enterprise24
Why not compare to 980 ti sli instead of Titan Z.
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#4
Darksoviet
Enterprise24 said:
Why not compare to 980 ti sli instead of Titan Z.
Because this is AMD‘s PPT.
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#5
Patriot
Enterprise24 said:
Why not compare to 980 ti sli instead of Titan Z.
because fastest single card to fastest single card.
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#6
arbiter
btarunr said:
The new AMD Radeon Pro Duo, announced earlier today, takes the crown for being the world's fastest graphics card. According to the company's internal testing, in which it compared the card to its previous-generation flagship Radeon R9 295X2, and NVIDIA's fastest card, the GeForce GTX TITAN Z, on 3DMark FireStrike, at resolutions of 1080p, 1440p, and 2160p; the Pro Duo was found to be as much as 51 percent faster than the GTX TITAN Z
Is that 51% claim using same settings that AMD used when they claimed Fury X was 30% faster then a 980ti?
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#7
R-T-B
Enterprise24 said:
Why not compare to 980 ti sli instead of Titan Z.
A.) It's single card to single card.

B.) No one wants to lose their advertising campaign comparison. 20,000 3dmarks in firestrike is more line with dual GTX 980's than 980 TI's. For proof, see my specs.
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#8
Sah7d
R-T-B said:
A.) It's single card to single card.

B.) No one wants to lose their advertising campaign comparison. 20,000 3dmarks in firestrike is more line with dual GTX 980's than 980 TI's. For proof, see my specs.
C.) A real gamer dont care about 3DMarks or any other artificial benchamrk but REAL GAME PERFORMANCE
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arbiter
R-T-B said:
B.) No one wants to lose their advertising campaign comparison. 20,000 3dmarks in firestrike is more line with dual GTX 980's than 980 TI's. For proof, see my specs.
Well just had a quick look at 3dmarks site, if you look at gtx 980 and 980ti scores and even scroll down to ones that are clocked to more around what avg card is, 2x gtx 980 in SLI puts up a score of 25000 really wonder about that score amd claimed being that low. If that card can only score 20k, seriously someone messed up or who knows.
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R-T-B
Sah7d said:
C.) A real gamer dont care about 3DMarks or any other artificial benchamrk but REAL GAME PERFORMANCE
That's a given. But real gamers don't write advertisements for AMD either...
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R-T-B
arbiter said:
Well just had a quick look at 3dmarks site, if you look at gtx 980 and 980ti scores and even scroll down to ones that are clocked to more around what avg card is, 2x gtx 980 in SLI puts up a score of 25000 really wonder about that score amd claimed being that low. If that card can only score 20k, seriously someone messed up or who knows.
Keep in mind the "graphics only" scores are different than the final scores on the 3dmark site too.
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#12
arbiter
R-T-B said:
Keep in mind the "graphics only" scores are different than the final scores on the 3dmark site too.
well if you only take the graphic score then, 980's are 31000 so looks even worse. Who knows where AMD got those numbers, as one they say for 295x2 isn't even what others show on 3dmark so who knows where AMD pulled that 20k from or numbers for any their claims period. I tend to take anything AMD says as a grain of salt.
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R-T-B
arbiter said:
well if you only take the graphic score then, 980's are 31000 so looks even worse. Who knows where AMD got those numbers, as one they say for 295x2 isn't even what others show on 3dmark so who knows where AMD pulled that 20k from or numbers for any their claims period. I tend to take anything AMD says as a grain of salt.
True. The numbers do seem weak. Maybe there are thermal issues with the two chips on one card?
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#14
Ferrum Master
No they probably ran both systems on their AM3 CPU. :laugh:
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#15
Lord Potato
For $1500 you can have the largest single card e-peen (for 3dmark results)...such wow.
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#16
bogami
I want to see the results of four (CF) cards in multicore..:). Always so late with 2xGPU cards .:(
Polaris is almost here .
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#17
Dj-ElectriC
This card is a nice demonstration of technology and thermals. That's it.
I don't wanna buy it, i don't wanna use it. Nothing about this appeals to me.
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#18
the54thvoid
Just for comparison.

http://www.hardwareluxx.com/index.php/reviews/hardware/vgacards/36181-asus-r9-fury-x-cf-vs-gtx-980-ti-sli-overclocked.html?start=3



Using last generation dual card from NV is all they can do because NV doesn't have one for Maxwell. However, when you compare generation to generation, it is easy to see the massive similarities (rightly) between both camps.

Notably the Radeon Pro Duo scores lower than Crossfired Fury X's in each test.
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#19
the54thvoid
R-T-B said:
True. The numbers do seem weak. Maybe there are thermal issues with the two chips on one card?
Sorry for double posting but it's a reply so it's not heresy! The TDP is rated at 350W so it's possible the card will throttle. Even though the power pins and PCI can deliver >500W the deign may be limiting it. Besides, angling it for content creation and not true gaming means they don't need it to be balls out. It's a clever move by AMD RTG. Even priced away from twin Fury X so it doesn't steal it's own market share (even though it's slower). But, the AAA game development of both crossfire and sli has been poor poor late so aiming this at the VR dev side to mitigate poor gaming performance throws it all in a very capable light. This card will be very good for VR. Not so much for standard gaming as a dual card equivalent.
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#20
rtwjunkie
PC Gaming Enthusiast
R-T-B said:
A.) It's single card to single card.
I could be confusing things, but this doesn't count as a single card. It's a dual GPU card. So, shouldn't proper comparisons be to SLI and Crossfire setups?
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#21
PP Mguire
rtwjunkie said:
I could be confusing things, but this doesn't count as a single card. It's a dual GPU card. So, shouldn't proper comparisons be to SLI and Crossfire setups?
No, because both the Titan Z and Radeon Pro Duo are one single PCB with 2 chips on it. Single card.
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rtwjunkie
PC Gaming Enthusiast
PP Mguire said:
No, because both the Titan Z and Radeon Pro Duo are one single PCB with 2 chips on it. Single card.
Yeah, I see this thing debated all the time, and there is no clear answer. So let me ask this: If I were to use it, do I need to enable crossfire?
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#23
PP Mguire
rtwjunkie said:
Yeah, I see this thing debated all the time, and there is no clear answer. So let me ask this: If I were to use it, do I need to enable crossfire?
The definition of single card is one card regardless of how many GPUs it has on it. The Voodoo 5 6000 has 4 GPUs on it, does that mean it is 4 cards? No.

When you open up the box for a 295x2 are you digging out one card or two? Only one. Single card solution.
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#24
nickbaldwin86
Titan Z = generation old

Radeon Pro Duo = current/next gen.

This is a great apples to grape fruit comparison. :nutkick:

One would only hope that it is faster.
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#25
rtwjunkie
PC Gaming Enthusiast
PP Mguire said:
The definition of single card is one card regardless of how many GPUs it has on it. The Voodoo 5 6000 has 4 GPUs on it, does that mean it is 4 cards? No.

When you open up the box for a 295x2 are you digging out one card or two? Only one. Single card solution.
Ok. But see my question above.
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