Monday, December 12th 2016

AMD RYZEN Brand Name of First Enthusiast "ZEN" CPUs

AMD has apparently chosen RYZEN (pronounced "risen") as the marketing name for the first consumer enthusiast processors based on the "ZEN" micro-architecture. Slated for market availability in Q1-2017, the first RYZEN part will feature 8 cores, 16 threads, 20 MB of total cache (8x 512 KB L2 + 2x 8 MB L3), and a clock speed of over 3.40 GHz. The chips will be built in the socket AM4 package, and will be launched alongside a new wave of motherboards with AMD X370 chipset.

Given the relatively modest clock speeds by AMD's standards, it's safe to say that AMD has made big IPC gains, and is now tapping into those gains. Intel, on the other hand, is clocking its upcoming Core i7-7700K at 4.00-4.40 GHz. AMD is also introducing enthusiast-segment features with RYZEN, including XFR (eXtended frequency range), Smart Prefetch, a tightly tuned power-management system built from the ground up, called AMD Pure Power, and its related feature, AMD Precision Boost.
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70 Comments on AMD RYZEN Brand Name of First Enthusiast "ZEN" CPUs

#1
dj-electric
The name Ryzen is awesome. That's all i have to say.
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#2
Sandbo
Risen or Fallen, let's leave the naming after a benchmark.
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#3
SithLord
RYZEN sounds cool, but you just know everyone is going to pronounce it "Ry-zen" :P
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#4
Camm
Why would you compare a 4.0Ghz 4 core part against an 8 core part.

Wouldn't the better comparison be the 6900K, which has a clock of 3.2?
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#5
btarunr
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Camm, post: 3569035, member: 110377"
Why would you compare a 4.0Ghz 4 core part against an 8 core part.

Wouldn't the better comparison be the 6900K, which has a clock of 3.2?
Because these chips will likely compete with LGA1151 quad-core "Kaby Lake," not the HEDT platform. Ryzen chips have dual-channel DDR4 memory and 28-lane PCIe gen 3.0, which make them a more similar platform to LGA115x than HEDT.

I guess this is why Intel is planning six-core LGA115x parts in 2018-19.
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#6
Camm
btarunr, post: 3569038, member: 43587"
Because these chips will likely compete with LGA1151 quad-core "Kaby Lake," not the HEDT platform. Ryzen chips have dual-channel DDR4 memory and 28-lane PCIe gen 3.0, which make them a more similar platform to LGA115x than HEDT.

I guess this is why Intel is planning six-core LGA115x parts in 2018-19.
I guess with that, any notice of AMD's Quad Core parts, would probably give a better Apples to Apples is all.
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#7
btarunr
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Camm, post: 3569040, member: 110377"
I guess with that, any notice of AMD's Quad Core parts, would probably give a better Apples to Apples is all.
AMD has always seen dollars as apples. A $350 Ryzen processor vs. $350 i7-7700K will be the fair comparison.
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#8
RejZoR
Still, this is looking really good. Can't wait to see benches, I hope it'll be a good competition and I'll build a system based on this stuff for my cousin. We are both anxiously waiting for the Zen release so we can finally assemble the system based on how it stacks up (meaning it'll define whether it'll be an AMD or Intel based system).
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#9
thesmokingman
btarunr, post: 3569041, member: 43587"
AMD has always seen dollars as apples. A $350 Ryzen processor vs. $350 i7-7700K will be the fair comparison.
There's potentially a value surplus on one hand if the performance is there.
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#10
Caring1
SithLord, post: 3569032, member: 165470"
RYZEN sounds cool, but you just know everyone is going to pronounce it "Ry-zen" :p
I hadn't thought of pronouncing it that way, I read it as Rizen with the Y making the "eye" sound
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#11
Sempron Guy
my only question is, will those feature come via bios as an added option or as a windows software and all assumptions a few months earlier about overclocking and how it will be windows based now is inevitable
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#12
Covert_Death
Camm, post: 3569040, member: 110377"
I guess with that, any notice of AMD's Quad Core parts, would probably give a better Apples to Apples is all.
how so? core count isn't everything. last generation AMD had 8 'cores' but it directly compared and competed with intel 4 core.

its about design and intent of use that it was designed for. These are consumer grade parts meant for the same market as 1151, thats what they should compare to. they have more specs in line with 1151 than HEDT (really only core count)... on top of that.... it will have competitive pricing with 1151, not HEDT.
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#13
mastrdrver
btarunr, post: 3569041, member: 43587"
AMD has always seen dollars as apples. A $350 Ryzen processor vs. $350 i7-7700K will be the fair comparison.
Except that AMD has explicitly stated that the first Zen parts are going to be server parts then come the Zen based APUs. Even the demo to show the IPC improvements made to Zen was against an Intel was with an Intel server cpu.
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#14
Relayer
Covert_Death, post: 3569055, member: 97721"
how so? core count isn't everything. last generation AMD had 8 'cores' but it directly compared and competed with intel 4 core.

its about design and intent of use that it was designed for. These are consumer grade parts meant for the same market as 1151, thats what they should compare to. they have more specs in line with 1151 than HEDT (really only core count)... on top of that.... it will have competitive pricing with 1151, not HEDT.
Would likely compete for market though due to similar workloads that need/can benefit from all of those threads?

Seems like both would be most useful for CPU rendering, for example.
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#15
Dippyskoodlez
Covert_Death, post: 3569055, member: 97721"
how so? core count isn't everything. last generation AMD had 8 'cores' but it directly compared and competed with intel 4 core.
Core count is relevant again because the design is monolithic again making a single core directly comparable in the normal 'core' context consumers are used to. i.e. if the IPC is actually competitive, we're probably going to see quad core general consumer parts and 6/8/10/12 for the HEDT crowd.
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#16
mastrdrver
Covert_Death, post: 3569055, member: 97721"
how so? core count isn't everything. last generation AMD had 8 'cores' but it directly compared and competed with intel 4 core.

its about design and intent of use that it was designed for. These are consumer grade parts meant for the same market as 1151, thats what they should compare to. they have more specs in line with 1151 than HEDT (really only core count)... on top of that.... it will have competitive pricing with 1151, not HEDT.
Except the IPC demo AMD did was against a HEDT part, not an 1151 one. Just because it has similar memory bandwidth doesn't classify the part as desktop or server.
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#17
Caring1
If this is really comparable to Intel, then it may be a worthy successor to my 3570k and get put to use crunching.
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#18
ShurikN
Is there any info on mobile chips? Those are the ones I'm most interested in currently.
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#19
ZoneDymo
Caring1, post: 3569061, member: 153156"
If this is really comparable to Intel, then it may be a worthy successor to my 3570k and get put to use crunching.
Yeah im hoping to upgrade from my 2600k to it :)
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#21
btarunr
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Prima.Vera, post: 3569073, member: 98685"
Raisin sounds better. :p
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#22
Ubersonic
Following on from the successful Lancaster CPU based on the Athlon 64 architecture, the Barton CPU based on the Athlon XP architecture and of course the Budapest CPU based on the Opteron architecture.

No wait, they were all the other way round because giving the highly marketable name to the architecture and giving a stupid name to the actual CPUs is an epic fail....
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#23
VulkanBros
Maybe my FX-9590 finally can be replaced - good for consumers with a little competition
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