Saturday, February 4th 2017

AMD Ryzen Processor Models Revealed

Unlike Intel, which has had a predictable processor model number scheme over the past decade, those of AMD's new Ryzen processor family have been shrouded in mystery. Come March 2nd, and the company will launch some of 17, that's right, seventeen processor models. These include 5 eight-core SKUs, 4 six-core SKUs, and a whopping 8 quad-core SKUs. The lineup is led by the AMD Ryzen R7 1800X, followed by the R7 1800 Pro, the R7 1700X, the R7 1700 Pro, and the R7 1700. At this point we don't know the clock speeds of these SKUs, or what "Pro" designates. We know from AMD's application of the "Pro" moniker to some of its A-series APUs that it could designate certain business-desktop centric features.

The six-core lineup is led by the Ryzen R5 1600X, followed by the R5 1600 Pro, the R5 1500, and the R5 1500 Pro. The clock speeds of these SKUs range between 3.20-3.60 GHz, all SKUs feature SMT, enabling 12 logical CPUs for the OS to deal with. Lastly, AMD has an exhaustive range of quad-core chips, the ones with SMT are slotted in the Ryzen R5 extension, and the ones without SMT are Ryzen R3. The SMT-enabled quad-core lineup includes the R5 1400X, R5 1400 Pro, R5 1300, and R5 1300 Pro. The entry-level R3 lineup includes the R3 1200X, R3 1200 Pro, R3 1100, and R3 1100 Pro. A number of these SKUs will launch on the 2nd of March, 2017.

Source: Coolaler
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62 Comments on AMD Ryzen Processor Models Revealed

#1
kruk
I have hard time believing this naming scheme is true. People will associate the R7 models with mid range R7 GPUs, R5 CPUs with low end GPUs and R3 models with ultra low end GPUs - how can this be good? They chose to add an X to the number instead of using the xx50 numbering (or some other number - there are enough of them unused).

Maybe I was just spoiled by the RX series naming ...
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#2
arterius2
I know what I'll be getting, the biggest and baddest number of the bunch. Why?
Because 2 days of salary is hardly worth the agony of living with an inferior product for several years.
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#3
FordGT90Concept
"I go fast!1!11!1!"
That's awesome that they brought back the ATI 9### series monikers (X as opposed to XT, pro, plain). That said, I wonder what the designations are for, especially the "PRO."

Surprising that all of the models have a base clock over 3 GHz.

I'm also super happy to see they only disabled SMT on the budget processors. Intel has been disabling HTT exclusively as an excuse to make people spend a premium for something with generally negligible gains.

I hope these processors make Intel panic. Intel has had it too easy for too long (over a decade).

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#4
TheLostSwede
If this is the real naming, then the Pro models are most likely their business focused models, since AMD has had a line of business processors, as well as graphics cards.

X are obviously the unlocked ones and they'll most likely have a slightly higher clock speeds as well.

The more important question is, how much will they cost?
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#5
RejZoR
kruk said:
I have hard time believing this naming scheme is true. People will associate the R7 models with mid range R7 GPUs, R5 CPUs with low end GPUs and R3 models with ultra low end GPUs - how can this be good? They chose to add an X to the number instead of using the xx50 numbering (or some other number - there are enough of them unused).

Maybe I was just spoiled by the RX series naming ...
No, they are connecting i7 with R7, i5 with R5, i3 with R3. They can't call it the same, obviously, but they can relate them like this. Plus, in all tests, you'll see CPU's pitted against other CPU's, meaning there won't be any confusion with Radeon graphic cards. And even for clueless people who will buy it in pre-assembled dektop box format they'll again see Processor vs Processor. There won't be any confusions.
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#6
FordGT90Concept
"I go fast!1!11!1!"
TheLostSwede said:
If this is the real naming, then the Pro models are most likely their business focused models, since AMD has had a line of business processors, as well as graphics cards.

X are obviously the unlocked ones and they'll most likely have a slightly higher clock speeds as well.

The more important question is, how much will they cost?
They're all unlocked. X is likely higher TDP compared to non-X (e.g. 95w vs 65w).

I think the prices will be reasonable but...yeah, I'd like to know the definite prices too.

RejZoR said:
No, they are connecting i7 with R7, i5 with R5, i3 with R3. They can't call it the same, obviously, but they can relate them like this. Plus, in all tests, you'll see CPU's pitted against other CPU's, meaning there won't be any confusion with Radeon graphic cards. And even for clueless people who will buy it in pre-assembled dektop box format they'll again see Processor vs Processor. There won't be any confusions.
Gotta admit that's pretty clever. Intel can't exactly sue because AMD can just point at their graphics card line as justification for it.
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#7
siluro818
TheLostSwede said:

X are obviously the unlocked ones and they'll most likely have a slightly higher clock speeds as well.
They've already said that all CPUs from the lineup will be unlocked, not only certain models.
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#8
scandinave
The information feel strange. I've heard that 6 cores processor will be not possible due to architecture of rizen.
And comparison with Intel processor seems like the old buildozer architecture. AMD must put 8 core to bit the high end intel 4 cores . It's clearly not the revolution promise by AMD. Frequencies seems to be low. In CES we saw an 8 cores to 3.4ghz and in this paper, 4 cores are announced to max 3.5ghz. If this information is true, AMD will not be able to fight against Intel with mono thread application like lot of game.
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#9
FordGT90Concept
"I go fast!1!11!1!"
AMD said they're wrong.

Ryzen has zero basis on Bulldozer. Ryzen is brand new from the ground up developed by Jim Keller who is the guy that put AMD on top previously.

3.6 GHz for 8 core/16 thread is good. Intel's competing product (6900K) is clocked at 3.2 GHz for comparison. AMD has demonstrated, at least in Blender, that Ryzen is clock-for-clock faster than Broadwell-E. Put all together, AMD may not just beat Intel, but may have it beat by a significant margin.

And remember price. AMD may not be able to match Intel's 4 GHz on quad-cores but a slightly lower clock with more cores at the same price, the latter is a better deal.

Most modern games like at least quad core processors. If you're looking for "monothread games," you need to go back a decade.
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#10
the54thvoid
RejZoR said:
No, they are connecting i7 with R7, i5 with R5, i3 with R3. They can't call it the same, obviously, but they can relate them like this. Plus, in all tests, you'll see CPU's pitted against other CPU's, meaning there won't be any confusion with Radeon graphic cards. And even for clueless people who will buy it in pre-assembled dektop box format they'll again see Processor vs Processor. There won't be any confusions.
Exactly this - Core i7 is matched by AMD R7 - the public will link the two numerical values.

Well, even if it's a hundred or so more than Kaby Lake (two hundred at a push), I'll buy the top end as long as it beats out the i7 7700k and the i7 6800k. Gaming is my thing so soon I can decide which path to follow. Frankly I can't wait to have an AMD CPU and then start trolling Vega threads until someone call me a fanboy!!! Well- AMD seem like to use Titan X with Ryzen. :laugh:
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#11
Donny Stanley
TheLostSwede said:
If this is the real naming, then the Pro models are most likely their business focused models, since AMD has had a line of business processors, as well as graphics cards.

X are obviously the unlocked ones and they'll most likely have a slightly higher clock speeds as well.

The more important question is, how much will they cost?
All Ryzen CPUs carry unlocked multipliers and will be overclockable using the X370, X300 and B350 chipsets.
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#12
P4-630
The Way It's Meant to be Played
Hell yeah, overclocked workstations!!!:D
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#13
kruk
RejZoR said:
No, they are connecting i7 with R7, i5 with R5, i3 with R3. They can't call it the same, obviously, but they can relate them like this. Plus, in all tests, you'll see CPU's pitted against other CPU's, meaning there won't be any confusion with Radeon graphic cards. And even for clueless people who will buy it in pre-assembled dektop box format they'll again see Processor vs Processor. There won't be any confusions.
It is obvious they are trying to match Intels naming scheme, however, they could name them F3, F5 and F7 (F as FX) and prevent any association with past GPU, Memory, SSD, etc. naming schemes.
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#14
YautjaLord
No AM4 mobos @ any company's site (ASUS, ASRock, etc...) & no CPUs @ AMD's products header/link, at all. R7 1800X and/or 1800 Pro it is then. Less than a month to wait, whether it comes out in Feb 26/27 or March 2nd. ASRock's X370 Fatal1ty Prof. Gaming is the one i eyeballing - black n red color palette with enough LED RGB stuff for me to call it a day. Unless there's ASUS ROG Crosshair VI Formula-X or something. lol
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#15
RejZoR
kruk said:
It is obvious they are trying to match Intels naming scheme, however, they could name them F3, F5 and F7 (F as FX) and prevent any association with past GPU, Memory, SSD, etc. naming schemes.
R stands for Ryzen, just like R for graphic cards means Radeon. It's just how it is.
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#16
Xzibit
This doesn't make sense

Coolaler
Previously learned that AMD Ryzen will have three series R7 said:
but guess is X is not locked, the previous rumors are not locked Frequency
AMD already said they are all Unlocked so hes contradicting AMD or still guessing from his "Source"

Coolaler
Part of the clock according to a little reliable sources, too lazy to list, only the direction of the general direction, R7 is preset in the 3.0GHz ~ 3.6GHz, there is a Turbo clock, the current unknown is much higher .
AMD already said 3.4GHz+ for 8c/16t all unlocked

Not enough vetting of these articles lately which themselves say they are rumors or founded on hearsay and are reported as News.
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#17
Joss
If all chips are unlocked and if this CPU is of quality then a 4 core/4 thread version, maybe the price of cheapest i3s, would be enough for a mid to high end build. Interesting if so.
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#19
HD64G
scandinave said:
The information feel strange. I've heard that 6 cores processor will be not possible due to architecture of rizen.
And comparison with Intel processor seems like the old buildozer architecture. AMD must put 8 core to bit the high end intel 4 cores . It's clearly not the revolution promise by AMD. Frequencies seems to be low. In CES we saw an 8 cores to 3.4ghz and in this paper, 4 cores are announced to max 3.5ghz. If this information is true, AMD will not be able to fight against Intel with mono thread application like lot of game.
That frequency is the base one which is used only when all cores are fully loaded. If a game uses less threads than the available ones it will boost the frequency up depending on the cooling solution this PC has. So, most possibly, the higher priced and unlocked Rysen CPU will have 8C/16T that from stck will boost up to 4GHz with a base of 3.6GHz. Higher than the i7 6950K that costs more than $1000.
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#20
Rictorhell
If the performance of these Ryzen chips holds up AND the prices are reasonable then this might be a very interesting year for computer enthusiasts. If AMD can keep up with demand for the processors it might cause Intel to finally rethink their pricing on some of their mid to high end processors instead of just charging essentially whatever they want.

If the faster processors from both companies stay affordable, or come down in price, that will hopefully entice Wal-Mart and some of these other retailers to sell more powerful computers, at lower prices, which would possibly encourage more computer sells due to people experiencing higher performance at lower or more reasonable pricing.

More powerful computers in the hands of more of the public would MAYBE mean that programmers would have more incentive to come up with newer and more interesting types of software and games. If more people were able to try and get interested in virtual reality headsets, for example, that would spur a lot of interesting new hardware and software advances.

A virtual meeting with your friend on the other side of the globe, for example, where you can see AND interact with each other. A math class over the Internet where your instructor can demonstrate formulas and ideas using 3D shapes and holograms.

Very interesting times.
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#21
bug
The thing is, that chart pitches AMD CPUs against Intel CPUs having fewer cores/threads. Let's hope that's wrong, because if it isn't, it means intel still has better IPC.
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#22
P4-630
The Way It's Meant to be Played
bug said:
The thing is, that chart pitches AMD CPUs against Intel CPUs having fewer cores/threads. Let's hope that's wrong, because if it isn't, it means intel still has better IPC.
I have seen a charts on various websites and I think it is... Intel just has a better IPC.
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#23
Chaitanya
YautjaLord said:
No AM4 mobos @ any company's site (ASUS, ASRock, etc...) & no CPUs @ AMD's products header/link, at all. R7 1800X and/or 1800 Pro it is then. Less than a month to wait, whether it comes out in Feb 26/27 or March 2nd. ASRock's X370 Fatal1ty Prof. Gaming is the one i eyeballing - black n red color palette with enough LED RGB stuff for me to call it a day. Unless there's ASUS ROG Crosshair VI Formula-X or something. lol
thats because so far Amd has just paper launched their next gen cpus and chipsets. Manufacturers will be finalising their products(bios and other software) right now for final release. Also they might be under Nda like reviewers untill final release so you wont find product pages until then.
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#24
bug
YautjaLord said:
No AM4 mobos @ any company's site (ASUS, ASRock, etc...) & no CPUs @ AMD's products header/link, at all. R7 1800X and/or 1800 Pro it is then. Less than a month to wait, whether it comes out in Feb 26/27 or March 2nd. ASRock's X370 Fatal1ty Prof. Gaming is the one i eyeballing - black n red color palette with enough LED RGB stuff for me to call it a day. Unless there's ASUS ROG Crosshair VI Formula-X or something. lol
You couldn't find the mobos on manufacturer's websites pre-launch for Kaby or Skylake either. It's just business as usual.
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#25
jaggerwild
scandinave said:
The information feel strange. I've heard that 6 cores processor will be not possible due to architecture of rizen.
And comparison with Intel processor seems like the old buildozer architecture. AMD must put 8 core to bit the high end intel 4 cores . It's clearly not the revolution promise by AMD. Frequencies seems to be low. In CES we saw an 8 cores to 3.4ghz and in this paper, 4 cores are announced to max 3.5ghz. If this information is true, AMD will not be able to fight against Intel with mono thread application like lot of game.
OH stop the press, an Intel employee stopped by to give his 2 cents(or a BOT) you must like paying extra for intel CPU'S, bless your wittle heart go suck intels TET! OH COMP brings prices down oh boy
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