Tuesday, March 7th 2017

AMD "Naples" is a 32-core Zen Based Monstrosity

AMD today unveiled the "Naples" enterprise processor, and it is big. The chip could mark AMD's return to competitive enterprise CPUs after years. The first "Naples" based part has some staggering specifications - 32 CPU cores spread across eight CCX units, SMT enabling 64 threads, an octa-channel (yes, eight channels) DDR4 integrated memory controller, an industry-leading 64-lane PCI-Express gen 3.0 root complex, and AMD's new Infinity Fabric interconnect, which lets it talk to the neighboring CPU, in a 2P system. The IMC supports up to 2 TB of memory.

AMD will competitively price "Naples" against Intel's Xeon E5-2600 series 2P chips, offering more cores, wider memory interfaces, more memory support, and more PCIe lanes. AMD will tap into the good energy-efficiency of its "Zen" architecture to clock these chips competitively higher than Intel chips, to churn out more overall performance. AMD is scheduled to launch the first processors based on the "Naples" silicon, within Q2-2017.
"Today marks the first major milestone in AMD re-asserting its position as an innovator in the datacenter and returning choice to customers in high-performance server CPUs," said Forrest Norrod, senior vice president and general manager, Enterprise, Embedded and Semi-Custom business unit, AMD. "'Naples' represents a completely new approach to supporting the massive processing requirements of the modern datacenter. This groundbreaking system-on-chip delivers the unique high-performance features required to address highly virtualized environments, massive data sets and new, emerging workloads."
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59 Comments on AMD "Naples" is a 32-core Zen Based Monstrosity

#1
dude
32 CPU cores, 64 threads, and an octa-channel DDR4 IMC supporting up to 2 TB of memory. Nice, but can it run Crysis? All kidding aside, this sounds impressive. Go AMD!
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#2
PowerPC
Wellp, it's time to unburrow this beauty again...
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#3
Steevo
If they created Zen using infinity fabric in mind I wonder if the fabric termination is whats causing the cache latency even in 8 core setups? They had to design it to be really robust to support that number of cores and had to set a timing standard in mind.... so if the same timing standard were used with differing silicon....


Either way, good to see they are able to go after the real cash cow again.
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#4
XiGMAKiD
I guess it's possible for a prosumer version of this 32 core 8 channel CPU at $999 since their 8 core CPU is priced at $329
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#5
TheGuruStud
PowerPC said:
Wellp, it's time to unburrow this beauty again...
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#6
Jack1n
Considering the power efficiency and multi-core performance, we have seen from Zen, I believe they will be a serious contender in the server market.
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#7
RejZoR
PowerPC said:
Wellp, it's time to unburrow this beauty again...
At the end of the day, enterprises only want more cores. Because for data crunching, that's all it matters. You can't demand increased profits and all that if you don't have a product with which you can achieve that. AMD now has that. And trust me, now they have the first guy as well...
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#8
Devon68
This is what I call sex on the beach.
A 2P system that can have 64 cores 128 threads and 2 TB of ram.
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#9
RejZoR
I'm gonna take two to play Crysis :)
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#10
Serpent of Darkness
I wonder how much AMD Naples is going to cost per physical core. Skylake-EP was asking $10,000. per physical core.

Crap, now I want a Zippy's Apple or Blueberry Naple. blah!
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#11
chaosmassive
TheGuruStud said:
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No credit for me ?:slap:
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#12
chaosmassive
again, AMD need to optimize their CPU first before release it to market
not the other way around
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#13
PowerPC
RejZoR said:
At the end of the day, enterprises only want more cores. Because for data crunching, that's all it matters. You can't demand increased profits and all that if you don't have a product with which you can achieve that. AMD now has that. And trust me, now they have the first guy as well...
Hey, who's judging? I was thinking for years that this strategy will pay off one day, even if it's later rather than sooner. At least we now know that if something like this comes out for the average consumer, it'll probably have an AMD logo on it. And maybe now we don't even have to wait another ten years. Hell, I'd even be disappointed if Zen 2 didn't have 16 cores/32 threads now.
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#14
Vinska
My [male genitalia] can't take it, it's going to EXPLODE from the blood rushing into it.
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#15
Prima.Vera
Why not competing with the Intel® Xeon® Processor E7 v4 Family series of CPUs? They have similar amount of Cores and new generation. ;)
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#16
medi01
PowerPC said:
Wellp, it's time to unburrow this beauty again...
Dude, in the demo AMD's 44 cores wiped the floor with Intel's 44 cors. (I did expect Naples to be faster, given how Ryzen beats 8 cores, but not by that much)
Extra 20 cores is just icing on a cake.



In a "cloud cloud cloud" buzzing world, this is insanely good product to have.
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#17
RejZoR
PowerPC said:
Hey, who's judging? I was thinking for years that this strategy will pay off one day, even if it's later rather than sooner. At least we now know that if something like this comes out for the average consumer, it'll probably have an AMD logo on it. And maybe now we don't even have to wait another ten years. Hell, I'd even be disappointed if Zen 2 didn't have 16 cores/32 threads now.
I think there is mid step with 10, 12 and 14 cores in between depending on how they plan on segmenting the processors.
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#18
bug
Ok, now we're talking. Desktop CPUs for home usage alone will not bring AMD solidly into the black. But solid enterprise offerings will. There's also the mobile market to cover, but considering AMD's budget, I guess they have to move one step at a time. So far, so good.
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#19
RejZoR
Well, they have mobile devices planned as well, I'm guessing they'll announce the stuff pretty soon.
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#20
Bytales
Now all we Need is a "GAMING" Motherboard, with 8 x PCI Express 16x (electrical) 3.0 Slots, and fill it with 8 Dual VEGA Graphic Card.
One would have 64 core, 128 Threads, and 16 GPUs, if you Count 8 Gb HBM per GPU, you would have 128 GB HBM Memory.

That goes very good together.
16 GPUs, 64 CPU Cores, 128 Threads, and 128 GB HBM Memory, 16 Channels of ram with a 32GB stick each would be half a TB of RAM Memory.

That is what i call a GAMING machine.
C'mon AMD, give us that.

And then someone please create a game to use all this resources to the max.
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#21
Vinska
@Bytales You might be able to run crysis with that, but I still doubt it.
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#22
Alduin
Prima.Vera said:
Why not competing with the Intel® Xeon® Processor E7 v4 Family series of CPUs? They have similar amount of Cores and new generation. ;)
Top model Xeon E7-8894 v4 has 24 cores
I think v5(Skylake_EX) series will have 32 cores
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#23
jigar2speed
Its disappointing to not see Ryzen review from TPU.
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#24
blibba
Prima.Vera said:
Why not competing with the Intel® Xeon® Processor E7 v4 Family series of CPUs? They have similar amount of Cores and new generation. ;)
Because that's a server-class 4+ socket platform.

This is workstation class 2 socket, and much cheaper as a result.
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#25
theGryphon
I wonder why AMD is not tapping into 4P...

Also, about a Naples-class CPU for the prosumer segment, I don't believe AMD would/should introduce a different socket between the AM4 (consumer) and whatever-Naples-socket, at least for another 2 years until they get a good hold in the consumer market. For now, unless they can fit a 16- or 32-core Ryzen CPU in the AM4 socket, forget about a prosumer-class CPU from them. It would be great though...

Does anyone know if the AM4 socket has a hard power limit?
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