Thursday, June 1st 2017

AMD Readies Nine Ryzen Threadripper Models

AMD, which announced its Ryzen Threadripper HEDT processor at its 2017 Computex show, closely followed by certain motherboard manufacturers' unveiling of their compatible AMD X399 chipset motherboards; is readying nine SKUs based on the dual "Summit Ridge" MCM. This includes 10-core (3+2+3+2), 12-core (3+3+3+3), 14-core (4+3+4+3), and 16-core (4+4+4+4) models, all of which have SMT enabled, resulting in 20, 24, 28, and 32 threads, respectively; full 64-lane PCI-Express gen 3.0 root-complexes; and full quad-channel DDR4 memory interfaces. Some of these models with the "X" brand extension feature XFR (extended frequency range), which adds 200 MHz to the boost clock, if the cooling is sufficient.

The lineup is led by the 16-core/32-thread Ryzen Threadripper 1998X, with a healthy clock speed of 3.50 GHz, and 3.90 GHz boost, a TDP of 155W, and XFR. This is closely followed by the 16-core/32-thread 1998, clocked lower, at 3.20 GHz with 3.60 GHz boost, 155W TDP, and lack of XFR. The 16-core chips are followed by 14-core models. The 14-core/28-thread Ryzen Threadripper 1977X ships with 3.50 GHz core clock speed, but 4.00 GHz boost, XFR, and the same 155W TDP as the 16-core parts. This is closely followed by the 14-core/28-thread 1977 (non-X), with lower clocks of 3.20 GHz core, 3.70 GHz boost, and again, the same 155W TDP.
AMD could trounce Intel's HEDT lineup in terms of TDP from its 12-core lineup and below. The 12-core/24-thread Ryzen Threadripper 1976X ships with a staggering 3.60 GHz core, and 4.10 GHz boost, XFR, and "only" 125W TDP. In comparison, everything 6-core thru 10-core in Intel's Skylake-X HEDT lineup is 140W. The next 12-core/24-thread Threadripper part is the 1956X with 3.20 GHz core, 3.80 GHz boost, XFR, and 125W TDP. Its smaller sibling, the 1956 (non-X), ships with 3.00 GHz core, 3.70 GHz boost, and no XFR, but the same 125W TDP.

We now move on to AMD's 10-core/20-thread lineup. The Ryzen Threadripper 1955X ships with 3.60 GHz core and 4.00 GHz boost, and XFR adding further to the boost clock. The 1955 (non-X) will be the cheapest Threadripper you can buy. This 10-core/20-thread chip is clocked at 3.10 GHz, with 3.70 GHz boost. Both 10-core parts have their TDP rated at 125W.

The company didn't disclose cache structure, or pricing. We expect the 10-core Threadripper models to take on Intel's 4-thru-6-core "Kaby Lake-X" and "Skylake-X" parts; the 12-core Threadripper on Intel's 8-thru-10 core parts, the 14-core Threadripper on Intel's 10-thru-12 core parts; and the 16-core Threadripper, bolstered by its high clock speeds, on Intel's 16-thru-18-core parts.
Source: OCaholic.ch
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73 Comments on AMD Readies Nine Ryzen Threadripper Models

#26
Gasaraki
atomicusRyzen Threadripper 1955X 10-core will be how much we think? It would seem to be inferred here that it will be FAR less than the $1000 which Intel are asking for their 10-core i9-7900X? If the 1955X is, as this article states, taking on Intel's 4-thru-6-core CPU's in pricing ($250-400), then why the hell would you EVER buy Intel at this price point??
Probably $599 for the 10-core, since the 8-core 1800X is $499.
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#27
jigar2speed
GasarakiProbably $599 for the 10-core, since the 8-core 1800X is $499.
Oh i would be all over it, 10 cores & 20 threads should be plenty for my gaming and video edition needs.
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#28
_JP_
Is the body-parts-sold-in-the-black-market vs. performance ratio on these better than Intel's 2066 parts?

If it is, I'm in.
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#29
FourtyTwo
_JP_Is the body-parts-sold-in-the-black-market vs. performance ratio on these better than Intel's 2066 parts?

If it is, I'm in.
Which body part of you is in?
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#30
R0H1T
_JP_Is the body-parts-sold-in-the-black-market vs. performance ratio on these better than Intel's 2066 parts?

If it is, I'm in.
Would have to ask the resident kidney/liver/eyes dealer about it, calling in all the experts :peace:
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#32
Legacy-ZA
I bet they will be soldered too. <3
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#33
perlsite
GasarakiProbably $599 for the 10-core, since the 8-core 1800X is $499.
Personally I expect 16 core variant to be priced below $1000 mark!

10-core to take the price level of the 1800X at $499, and the 1800X itself to be slashed to the $420, then you know the drill - 12 core at $649, 14 core at $749 and leaving the 16 at something like $849.

Or even lower like:
10-core @ $499, 12-core @ $549, 14 @ $649 and 16-core @ $749! I still don't accept Intel's pricing - for me they are monopolists and hefty overpriced!

Don't forget that the server grade chips will come later too and that is the place where I expect pricing above $1000, not on the desktop market.
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#34
Unregistered
pky4.1GHz boost and 200MHz XFR = 4.3GHz... that's pretty hardcore for Zen.
I might go for threadripper just to be future proof rather than upgrading from 1700 to standard zen2 with higher clockspeeds later. Threadripper seems to be a sort of zen1.5 and the fastest (12-core?) is probably going to be the best option for most.
#35
nickbaldwin86
9700 ProReminds me of Pentium Pro.

reminds me of a desert plate
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#36
efikkan
CammAMD's mhz ceiling is mostly because of process rather than architecture. We won't see improvements to the ceiling unless AMD moves off LPP to something power orientated.

Don't count on it though unless AMD starts rolling in money anytime soon.
Ryzen is higher clocked than Broadwell-E, yet Broadwell-E performs better per core. Clock speed is not the issue.
MelvisI think you might have that slightly wrong, Im pretty sure what your seeing is still only 1 core at 4.1GHz XFR Boost its just that it bounces around from core to core which then in HW Monitor records it. What you need to look at is the first list under "value" as you run a benchmark/game whatever and then watch how many cores at once is clocked up to 4.1GHz and im pretty sure it will only be 1 core at a time doing so but it will jump around from core to core. :)
XFR is able to boost way more than 100 MHz under the right conditions. Zen is designed to adjust it's clock speed very frequently, way quicker than any HW monitor is able to detect.
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#37
Unregistered
efikkanRyzen is higher clocked than Broadwell-E, yet Broadwell-E performs better per core. Clock speed is not the issue.


XFR is able to boost way more than 100 MHz under the right conditions. Zen is designed to adjust it's clock speed very frequently, way quicker than any HW monitor is able to detect.
Broadwell-e is often worse for multi-threaded professional stuff and ryzen isn't too far off in games. 1440p+ ryzen is just better. Skylake-x will beat it, but zen2 isn't to far off, so we'll see. Hopefully threadripper performs well and is a bit cooler than skylake-x. Should at least be soldered.
#38
OneCool
I wonder what the stock cooler looks like :eek:
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#39
btarunr
Editor & Senior Moderator
OneCoolI wonder what the stock cooler looks like :eek:
I've heard that none of these will come with a stock cooler. AMD is preparing a Wraith-branded AIO liquid cooler which you'll be able to buy separately.
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#40
atomicus
Legacy-ZAI bet they will be soldered too. :love:
The current Ryzen line-up is all soldered isn't it? If so, Threadripper is sure to be.
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#41
Unregistered
atomicusThe current Ryzen line-up is all soldered isn't it? If so, Threadripper is sure to be.
Why would the cheapo cpu's be soldered and the HEDT chips not? AMD knows how to treat it's customers with respect unlike Intel with it's sh*tty TIM.
#42
Prince Valiant
efikkanRyzen is higher clocked than Broadwell-E, yet Broadwell-E performs better per core. Clock speed is not the issue.


XFR is able to boost way more than 100 MHz under the right conditions. Zen is designed to adjust it's clock speed very frequently, way quicker than any HW monitor is able to detect.
Memory and latency seem to be the biggest problems with Ryzen. I presume quad channel and further improvements to faster memory with better timings will help?
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#43
mcraygsx
I cannot get over the fact we are getting full 64-lane PCI-Express gen 3.0 in all available SKU's. Is this really happening.
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#44
Keullo-e
S.T.A.R.S.
mcraygsxI cannot get over the fact we are getting full 64-lane PCI-Express gen 3.0 in all available SKU's. Is this really happening.
And Intel is showing the middle finger to us at the same time. :rolleyes:
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#45
mcraygsx
9700 ProAnd Intel is showing the middle finger to us at the same time. :rolleyes:
It was puzzled myself with INTEL. Once against hardcore enthusiast have to buy TOP Tier SKU in order to get those 44 Lanes. Most Skylake-X consumers will have to settle with 16 or 28 lane PCI-Express gen 3.0 due to cost.
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#46
fullinfusion
Vanguard Beta Tester
Cybrnook2002Maybe Claw Hammer would have been more fitting :) hehe

Yup thats a big ass efn chip.

Imagine the size of waterblock needed cor that :0
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#47
cdl7307
This is great news even if it is overhyped - I have always flip-flopped between AMD and Intel when building based on my needs at the time and cost, so if this can help to bridge the gap and get some real competition going I will be very happy.

Even though I have pretty much stopped using SLI/xfire in favor of a single, more powerful card (although I am not above getting 2 more powerful cards :)) and have no need for PCIe SSDs or crunching cards, those 64 lanes are just very sexy.
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#48
Unregistered
cdl7307This is great news even if it is overhyped - I have always flip-flopped between AMD and Intel when building based on my needs at the time and cost, so if this can help to bridge the gap and get some real competition going I will be very happy.

Even though I have pretty much stopped using SLI/xfire in favor of a single, more powerful card (although I am not above getting 2 more powerful cards :)) and have no need for PCIe SSDs or crunching cards, those 64 lanes are just very sexy.
Imagine the cooling capacity of even a basic sp3r2 waterblock! At least overheating shouldn't be possible!
#49
Jhelms
I have zero need for this level of processing power but good lord - the NAME gets me HA! Want!
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#50
SARVAMANGALAM
Cybrnook2002Maybe Claw Hammer would have been more fitting :) hehe

And now the production of the largest water pumps and blocks will begin....:laugh:
Just imagine: the pump will must be huge and the cooling radiator will must have to be large for three 14 inch ventilators. Like corsair H110 I but even bigger... so price that coolers will around 150 usd and more .. so if you want two TH ryper .. add 300+ usd just for proper cooling .... :toast:

like now i can not get stable more than 3500 mhz on ryzen 1700x with avx application , run on 100% load all cpu .. chipset have +60C-hwinfo and heatsink is danger to touch ..burn finger.. so i must find some new cooler for chipset on GA-AX370-Gaming K3..(lol) still i have some unawares restart on whole system ,,dont now why ,,cca every 2 day .. ram have two 8gb 2133 ddr4 soo its not about ram speed crashing proably . now trying beta f3 bios
but thank you amd for move UP on this whole cpu sector for :clap:

Now we would need "amd ryzen " in the ssd and m.2 and pcie sector ..
becouse prices on 1-4 tbytes ssd and m.2 is crazy.. many people dont need 3500 write and read BUT we need some 1500-2000read and 800-1000 write betwen. but data BIGGER than 1 tb... 2-4 tb becouse after format you have always much lover data .. just my opnon
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