Sunday, August 20th 2017

ASUS Announces ROG STRIX Radeon RX Vega Series

ASUS today introduced the Republic of Gamers (ROG) STRIX Radeon RX Vega 64 O8G graphics card, among its first (and probably the first) custom-design RX Vega 64 to hit the markets (model: ROG-STRIX-RXVEGA64-O8G-GAMING). The card combines a custom-design PCB by ASUS, with the company's latest generation DirectCU III cooling solution the company deploys on its STRIX GTX 1080 Ti graphics card. The cooler features a heat-pipe direct-contact base, from which the heat-pipes pass through two aluminium fin-stacks on their two ends, which are ventilated by a trio of 100 mm spinners. The fans stay off when the GPU is idling. The cooler features RGB multi-color LED lighting along inserts on the cooler shroud, and an ROG logo on the back-plate.

Moving over to the sparsely populated PCB (thanks in part to AMD's HBM2 move), the card draws power from a pair of 8-pin PCIe power connectors, conditioning it for the GPU with a 13-phase VRM. The O8G variant features factory-overclocked speeds that are close to those of the RX Vega 64 Liquid Edition, although ASUS didn't specify them. There's a "non-O8G" variant that sticks to reference clock speeds, boosting to around 1495-1510 MHz. What ASUS is really selling here is better clock sustainability under load, lower noise, and zero idle-noise; besides all the ROG STRIX bells and whistles. The card also drives two 4-pin PWM case fans in-sync with the cards, like most ROG STRIX graphics cards from this generation. ASUS also rolled out the ROG STRIX RX Vega 56, which features the same exact PCB, and sticks to AMD reference speeds. The company didn't reveal pricing.
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24 Comments on ASUS Announces ROG STRIX Radeon RX Vega Series

#1
LogitechFan
why even bother? everyone knows it sucks already
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#4
Fizban
Where do you see $700? I see nothing under $999.
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#6
xkm1948
Captain_Tom said:
Because they want a piece of the massive profits being made from Vega right now:

https://www.newegg.com/Product/ProductList.aspx?Submit=ENE&DEPA=0&Order=BESTMATCH&Description=RX+Vega&N=-1&isNodeId=1


Wake up Nvidiot. This thing is selling out at $700, and it's because it is a compute monster that can also game very well.
No sane person would pay for such monstrous price for a "gaming card" With the piss poor mining performance even miners are smart enough to avoid these. Only the super die hard AMD fan boys would gladly shell out for such products.
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#7
xenocide
Captain_Tom said:
Because they want a piece of the massive profits being made from Vega right now:

https://www.newegg.com/Product/ProductList.aspx?Submit=ENE&DEPA=0&Order=BESTMATCH&Description=RX+Vega&N=-1&isNodeId=1


Wake up Nvidiot. This thing is selling out at $700, and it's because it is a compute monster that can also game very well.
Easy to sell out of any new product when you only ship 60-70 to the largest hardware etailers out there (that's what Newegg reported getting). Not to mention they sold out of the initial batch, which we've learned will be at a much lower price point than subsequent shipments. So these things are basically DoA at this point.
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#10
RejZoR
LogitechFan said:
why even bother? everyone knows it sucks already
No it doesn't. It's perfectly good competition against GTX 1080. RX 480 also didn't beat GTX 1080 and no one hated it. Why hating RX Vega just because it's not king of the hill beating the GTX 1080Ti?

I do like how they finally connected VRM to the main heatsink, but I still don't get it why back of the GPU keeps getting exposed and not padded with thermal pads and covered by backplate? Is it because of the interposer which kinda insulates GPU and HBM2 from the back so thermal connection at the back wouldn't make much of an effect?
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#11
Lionheart
RejZoR said:
No it doesn't. It's perfectly good competition against GTX 1080. RX 480 also didn't beat GTX 1080 and no one hated it. Why hating RX Vega just because it's not king of the hill beating the GTX 1080Ti?

I do like how they finally connected VRM to the main heatsink, but I still don't get it why back of the GPU keeps getting exposed and not padded with thermal pads and covered by backplate? Is it because of the interposer which kinda insulates GPU and HBM2 from the back so thermal connection at the back wouldn't make much of an effect?
I understand the hate but at the same time it's overblown, Vega 56 is great IMO but Vega 64 is abit meh.
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#12
RejZoR
Vega 56 is certainly interesting indeed because the price is cut quite a bit, but not performance. Problem with Vega 64 is literally just the pricing. If done well, it's great option, if not, not so much. The power consumption is not really that much of an issue quite frankly. People just need to stop parroting the Turbo power mode power consumption values because there, GPU just chugs as much power as you give it. Where Balanced or even Power Saving makes a small FPS drop, but also masive power drop.

It's just a shame aftermarket models weren't launched with the reference ones like they did with RX580 (where they actually didn't even have reference ones afaik).
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#13
PowerPC
LogitechFan said:
why even bother? everyone knows it sucks already
What an idiotic comment. Maybe because companies are already coming out with aftermarket cards? Yea, why bother making money by improving the card? This is already a ten times better launch than Fury. They bother because not everybody is automatically going to buy Nvidia over this like a bot, maybe that's why.
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#14
the54thvoid
LogitechFan said:
why even bother? everyone knows it sucks already
Captain_Tom said:
Because they want a piece of the massive profits being made from Vega right now:

https://www.newegg.com/Product/ProductList.aspx?Submit=ENE&DEPA=0&Order=BESTMATCH&Description=RX+Vega&N=-1&isNodeId=1


Wake up Nvidiot. This thing is selling out at $700, and it's because it is a compute monster that can also game very well.
It would be nice if people wouldn't make:

1 troll posts and,
2 rude replies.

Can't we all be civil?

FWIW, it's too expensive for what is it as a MSRP. As a card, if you don't want to buy a 1080ti (which you will be able to get for the same price if not cheaper) then sure, buy this.

The irony is, mining wise the 1080ti is no slouch (yes this is better) but the power consumption of the 1080ti is lower*, therefore reducing power bills (on the mining basis and where power comes into it). At it's price point, Vega 64 is not a good choice for a gaming card unless you must go with AMD.

* depending on what power option you choose which may also reduce Vega hash rate? But if you buy for mining, then that's different anyway. A Mining Device.
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#15
The N
VEGA 64 definitely not as lucrative as AMD was expecting, at least the initial reviews and responses suggest the same. However, the mining business would give them better sales, but again the hash rate seems low and high power draw could negate the situation for miners too.

Also, AMd has no control on VEGA 64 prices, so it seems a deteriorative situation.
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#16
B-Real
Lionheart said:
I understand the hate but at the same time it's overblown, Vega 56 is great IMO but Vega 64 is abit meh.
True, but if you are considering (or already have) a Freesync display and still don't have a 1080, the Vega64 is a also a good choice, even with this higher price. The Vega56 is an absolute winner comparing the 1070 for "newcomers" except those who are counting the power consumption with glasses.
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#17
jabbadap
Lionheart said:
I understand the hate but at the same time it's overblown, Vega 56 is great IMO but Vega 64 is abit meh.
Performance for both is quite good actually. The thing is just (un)availability. If price gouging puts RX Vega⁵⁶ price to more near gtx 1080 prices than it's intended price bracket, then it ain't any much better than RX Vega⁶⁴. Of course anyone who has gtx1070/gtx1080 or even gtx980ti/Fury X has quite literary little reason to side grade/downgrade to Vega⁵⁶. But yeah if they can actually sell them in that $399, it will sell.
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#18
fullinfusion
Vanguard Beta Tester
Have all the haters thought about the drivers, hint: why did AMD come out with the Vanguard team...

Anyone???
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#19
The N
jabbadap said:
Performance for both is quite good actually. The thing is just (un)availability. If price gouging puts RX Vega⁵⁶ price to more near gtx 1080 prices than it's intended price bracket, then it ain't any much better than RX Vega⁶⁴. Of course anyone who has gtx1070/gtx1080 or even gtx980ti/Fury X has quite literary little reason to side grade/downgrade to Vega⁵⁶. But yeah if they can actually sell them in that $399, it will sell.
I have' a little concern on it's price. As the MSRP stand at $399, but when it is available on newegg and amazon, will it sell for same price i.e. $399 or it will increase? if yes, then how much do I expect ?
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#20
Dimi
If Nvidia would bring out a gpu like this they would get roasted by everyone, hence why the GTX 480 is still being brought up by AMD fanboys whenever they feel threatened.

They rush out EVERY product launch they do. They rushed vega, threadripper and ryzen.
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#22
Captain_Tom
R-T-B said:
Few gamers use compute much if at all though. For gamers it is a sucky product honestly.
  • I mentioned compute for a reason. It is only marginally worse than Vega FE at rendering. Thus this is a $2000 professional card for $600 (Or I guess $700 now?)
  • It mines pretty well. As long as the 580 is $400+, this is a decent choice for $600. I think Vega 56 will actually sell out to miners big time unless they jack up the price.
  • Gaming is a lot better than some people realize. For instance if you play games like Fallout 4, BF1, and DEUS Ex like I do - it's firmly beating the 1080:
https://tpucdn.com/reviews/AMD/Radeon_RX_Vega_64/images/fallout4_3840_2160.png

https://tpucdn.com/reviews/AMD/Radeon_RX_Vega_64/images/bf1_3840_2160.png

https://tpucdn.com/reviews/AMD/Radeon_RX_Vega_64/images/deusex_3840_2160.png

It really does depend on the games this time around, and if you have a Freesync monitor Vega is an obvious choice over the 1080 or even the 1080 Ti. It also overclocks well for a newer card.
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#23
Dave65
Intel was blasted for some questionable tactics, now it looks like AMD deserves some backlash for unfounded hype over VEGA.
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#24
Captain_Tom
Dave65 said:
Intel was blasted for some questionable tactics, now it looks like AMD deserves some backlash for unfounded hype over VEGA.
Are you really comparing money laundering, bribery, and corporate sabotage to selling a card at higher prices than expected?
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