Monday, April 29th 2019

ASUS Reveals Listing of Motherboards, Chipsets Receiving Update for Next-gen Ryzen; A-Series Absent

ASUS today has posted a full listing of the motherboards that are receiving BIOS updates to allow for full compatibility with AMD's upcoming Ryzen 3000 series CPUs. These range across the B350, X370, B450, and X470 chipsets, with everything from ROG to TUF to Prime-branded motherboards receiving the support update. Conspicuously absent, though, are ASUS' A-series motherboards, based on the A320 chipset - despite it supporting the same electrical load as its B350 counterpart.

An ASUS remark claiming that "new models to be listed" gives some hope, but there have been unofficial rumors of A-series-based motherboards not supporting AMD's latest CPUs - and that ASUS claim could well be directed to some unlisted motherboards between the already mentioned chipsets.
Source: ASUS
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46 Comments on ASUS Reveals Listing of Motherboards, Chipsets Receiving Update for Next-gen Ryzen; A-Series Absent

#1
Manu_PT
So much for the "future compability". You can argue A320 is a niche product but Ive seen those going for as low as 40€ and would be a nice pair with a 6c/12t 4ghz-4.5ghz upgrade path.
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#2
Vayra86
I'm getting the impression board makers have to get off their very sweet Intel-drug and into AMD's world that is somewhat lower-margin of nature. The natural response: cut cost / cut support, and force users of AMD CPUs into a new board purchase.

Its a bitter pill for them to swallow, and they have little choice in the matter as AMD gains market share.
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#3
the54thvoid
35 boards. That's not so bad.

Budget boards are never going to be given the same upgrade path as other options. When you spend money on any tech product, you kinda know what the future holds. Mainstream or top end will always be given longevity; cheaper options not so much. That's always been a steady rationale - if I buy an expensive product, it will be supported - not so much for the budget end. It is, after all, budget for a reason, whether or not you agree. That is the entire purpose of such a spread of models.
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#4
zlobby
Sweet!

I like the compatibilty thing a lot! I also like how (if rumors are true) X570 will have a solid point to upgrade to.

Basically, it is a win-win-win.

As for the A320, it's a no-go by design. You only buy one of these if you are planning some kiosk or a small office on the cheap. You don't hope to put a new monster chip in 3 years later.
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#5
eidairaman1
The Exiled Airman
zlobby said:
Sweet!

I like the compatibilty thing a lot! I also like how (if rumors are true) X570 will have a solid point to upgrade to.

Basically, it is a win-win-win.

As for the A320, it's a no-go by design. You only buy one of these if you are planning some kiosk or a small office on the cheap. You don't hope to put a new monster chip in 3 years later.
Pretty much an OEM chipset
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#6
Aldain
Manu_PT said:
So much for the "future compability". You can argue A320 is a niche product but Ive seen those going for as low as 40€ and would be a nice pair with a 6c/12t 4ghz-4.5ghz upgrade path.
Really ?? you want to put zen 2 on a 30 euro board?

ffs
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#7
zlobby
eidairaman1 said:
Pretty much an OEM chipset
Wait, what?

OEM is ASUS, designer and manufacturer (?) is AMD. That is not ASMedia that made the prevoius backdoored crap.
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#8
notb
Aldain said:
Really ?? you want to put zen 2 on a 30 euro board?
Why not?
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#9
Manu_PT
Aldain said:
Really ?? you want to put zen 2 on a 30 euro board?

ffs
A lot of A320 boards are simply B350 without the features dude. More excuses please. This is bad consumer wise where you like it or not. No reason A320 are not supported.
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#10
NdMk2o1o
notb said:
Why not?
This...
zlobby said:
As for the A320, it's a no-go by design. You only buy one of these if you are planning some kiosk or a small office on the cheap.
Manu_PT said:
A lot of A320 boards are simply B350 without the features dude. More excuses please. This is bad consumer wise where you like it or not. No reason A320 are not supported.
This is a list of Asus motherboards that will be updated to support Ryzen 2 not AMD, if anything go complain to Asus, oh wait... you won't cause you don't have an a320m motherboard anyway and just want to complain about it for the sake of it, again, this is from Asus, not AMD. TL;DR Don't buy an Asus a320m motherboard if you want a Ryzen 2...
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#11
SIGSEGV
if asus rog x570 gives significant improvement over rog x470 then i would be happy to upgrade. It depends on the board manufacture creativity to attract consumer to pick upgrade path. Rog Crosshair Extreme with watercooling + military grade components would be interesting
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#12
tony359
I purchased an A320 MB for my HTPC. One feature that was appealing was the future compatibility of AM4 socket. Nobody said that the A320 would not be privileged as the bigger brothers otherwise I would have invested a tad more for a bigger chipset. I’m disappointed.
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#13
Metroid
the54thvoid said:
35 boards. That's not so bad.

Budget boards are never going to be given the same upgrade path as other options. When you spend money on any tech product, you kinda know what the future holds. Mainstream or top end will always be given longevity; cheaper options not so much. That's always been a steady rationale - if I buy an expensive product, it will be supported - not so much for the budget end. It is, after all, budget for a reason, whether or not you agree. That is the entire purpose of such a spread of models.
See the problem is that with Intel even extreme top bloody expensive motherboards were sunk in the depths of the ocean by Intel. So even if budget motherboards are not supported by amd ryzen 3000 series then I think is okay. If you are a true capitalist like me then you have suffered with intel for the past 10 years or so with the bullshit in all directions. it's time to end.
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#14
Nihilus
LoL at the jokers that got an a320 instead of a B350. Was the lack of support for overclocking and high tpd CPUs worth the $10 savings?
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#15
advanced3
You're only losing a cheap budget board anyways, its not that bad.
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#16
TheLostSwede
What about the A300 chipset? Oh, right, that never launched, I think?

It's great that there's an upgrade path for those that want to go step by step, but personally, I'm getting a new board and a new CPU.

Also, the UEFI versions listed are not released yet, so it'll be interesting to see when they arrive.
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#17
FreedomEclipse
~Technological Technocrat~
Those of you that say you cant game on a budget office pc are liars - I dug out an old IBM thinkpad with some 32 or 40 megs of ram and a PII 200 or 233mhz. for an office trash bin. I spent the entire day sat there playing UT99 on it.
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#18
Jism
notb said:
Why not?
It's like putting an FX on a 950 chipset based motherboard.

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#19
eidairaman1
The Exiled Airman
Jism said:
It's like putting an FX on a 950 chipset based motherboard.

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Msi are known for low quality in that series

I doubt A320 were popular enough for Ryzen users to begin with.

I wonder why there wasn't a x470 Crosshair Extreme board.

Its sad TUF are bargin bin
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#20
notb
Nihilus said:
LoL at the jokers that got an a320 instead of a B350.
It is an AM4 chipset. People bought it to use AM4 CPUs - now and later. Future upgradability was the main selling point of Zen from the start.
Was the lack of support for overclocking and high tpd CPUs worth the $10 savings?
Features are not worth saving something. They're worth paying something.
If someone wasn't going to OC, why would he pay these extra $10? It made no sense.

Well, if someone told him back then that $10 also gets him a possibility to upgrade, it might have affected his decision.
Jism said:
It's like putting an FX on a 950 chipset based motherboard.
And what if AMD replaces the whole lineup with Zen 2?
World doesn't revolve around high-end gaming models that you worship so much.
TheLostSwede said:
What about the A300 chipset? Oh, right, that never launched, I think?
Actually it did - but limited and OEM-only.
In fact ASRock has just launched the acclaimed DeskMini A300. Will it support Zen2? It seems extremely unlikely.
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#21
tony359
Nihilus said:
LoL at the jokers that got an a320 instead of a B350. Was the lack of support for overclocking and high tpd CPUs worth the $10 savings?
If I have no intention to overclock, I can invest those £10 elsewhere. Correct me if I’m wrong but the A320 was not advertised as less compatible with high TDP Ryzen?? Can you link me a source to your statement please?
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#22
Jism
eidairaman1 said:
Msi are known for low quality in that series
This has nothing todo with the quality MSI puts on the boards. This is obviously a VRM shortout which leads to a VRM being toast while being alive. The CPU on initial boot does'nt go 220W or so. Most VRM's are protected for overcurrent, temp and all that. The board is just a DOA basicly. I had a crosshair Z which had a simular thing going on with the VRM (shorting out). Returned it and got a working one back.
I wonder why there wasn't a x470 Crosshair Extreme board.
The 470-F is welly loaded and has sufficient stuff on that to OC or to have alot of features. There's no need to have a even bigger VRM because most ryzen's cap out at 4.3~4.4Ghz all core (2700x). I like the M2 x2 setup on the board which allows for a Raid0 or raid1 configuration and the ability to go crossfire or SLI in that case.
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#23
Rowsol
My friend bought https://www.asrock.com/mb/AMD/A320M/index.asp#CPU on my recommendation. It was 50 bucks making it the cheapest option at the time and he wasn't interested in overclocking. It has an 8 pin CPU power, supports 95w CPUs (aka every AM4 CPU), and even has a vrm heatsink. There are b350s with less features than this.

There is zero reason to deny the future CPUs to people using this chipset aside from greed. The fact that anyone would side with the corporation makes me sad. I have no idea if he'll ever upgrade his 1600 but hopefully regardless Asrock will have the decency to allow it.
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#24
zlobby
tony359 said:
If I have no intention to overclock, I can invest those £10 elsewhere. Correct me if I’m wrong but the A320 was not advertised as less compatible with high TDP Ryzen?? Can you link me a source to your statement please?
Can you please post sources citing AMD will support AM4 till 2020 for ALL boards and ALL CPUs?

I'm pretty sure A320 can run newer Ryzens (more or less) but mobo manufacturers decided (together) to drop support since it costs money to keep these boards alive, and it canibalizes the rest of the lineup.
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#25
B-Real
Manu_PT said:
So much for the "future compability". You can argue A320 is a niche product but Ive seen those going for as low as 40€ and would be a nice pair with a 6c/12t 4ghz-4.5ghz upgrade path.
I see the 300 series motherboards also supporting the Zen2, so stop spreading lies. Thank you. Wondering how many A320 owner would go for a Zen2. :DDDDDD
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