Monday, June 10th 2019

AMD E3 Next Horizon Event: Live Blog

It's been a very busy May-June for AMD as the company pushes out its major client-segment product lines spread across Computex 2019, and E3 2019. At Computex, the company focused on its 3rd generation Ryzen "Zen 2" desktop processors, and led its partners to show us a galaxy of new motherboards based on the AMD X570 chipset. It turns out that the company was saving a handful processor SKUs focused on gamers for E3.

The second important product launch of course is Radeon RX 5700 series, based on AMD's new "Navi 10" silicon on which its new RDNA graphics architecture debuts. With its AIB (add-in board) partners expected to be allowed to make custom-design cards, and based on what little nuggets of information AMD put out, "Navi" promises to stir up a key performance-segment price-band that's currently held by NVIDIA's GeForce RTX 2070 and RTX 2060. The AMD keynote will see the company CEO Dr. Lisa Su and her top execs take centerstage to make some big announcements. With E3 being a purely entertainment / client-segment forum, the AMD keynote promises not bore with tiresome topics such as AI, self-driving cars, etc.
2:30 PM PDT: Ahead of its keynote, AMD posted a teaser video of its new RDNA graphics architecture on YouTube.


3:00 PM PDT: The event begins with CEO Dr. Lisa Su taking centerstage. "Exciting time for gamers everywhere, with coherence between hardware and software."

3:06 PM PDT: "AMD owes its recent success to big technology bets that are paying off now."

3:07 PM PDT: Lisa Su confirms next-generation PlayStation is powered by AMD IP, as is Google Stadia. Also talks about the Xbox "Project Scarlett"

3:08 PM PDT: PC. Now we're talking.

3:11 PM PDT: Key details on Zen 2 CPU architecture at the heart of Ryzen 3000. Also AMD's performance claims. We've seen these slides at the Computex 2019 keynote.

3:16 PM PDT: AMD answering Intel's "real-world gaming" challenge:

3:18 PM PDT: Ryzen 5 3600X specs confirmed, including gaming performance. Beats Core i5-9600K.

All CPU models available 7/7/2019.

3:20 PM PDT: Time to talk Navi. Maintains RDNA is a cleanslate architecture.

3:25 PM PDT: Meet the Radeon RX 5700 XT. Leadership performance in its class.

3:27 PM PDT: The leaks seem to be correct. "Ready for overclocking"

Performance beats the RTX 2070 in World War Z.

3:29 PM PDT: Radeon RX 5700 (non-XT) Specs:

Up to 10% faster than RTX 2060 (RX 5700 non-XT).

Radeon Media Engine supports 4K encode and decode, and updated codecs for hardware-acceleration. Radeon Display Engine has updated connectivity.

3:33 PM PDT: FidelityFX pre-baked free-to-use special effects that improve visual fidelity without performance cost; available through GPUOpen.

3:35 PM PDT: Radeon Image Sharpening is essentially FidelityFX for games that don't support it.

3:36 PM PDT: Radeon Anti-Lag is a groundbreaking new feature that works to reduce GPU-to-monitor lag and input lag. Treat for e-sports gamers.
Lower input-lag without increasing frame-rates!

3:40 PM PDT: Pricing! Availability 7/7/2019, both SKUs. RX 5700 XT is priced at $449, and RX 5700 at $379. "Gears 5" bundled!

3:47 PM PDT: Gears 5 as rendered on an RX 5700 XT.

Although Gears 5 releases September, RX 5700-series buyers who get the game bundled also have early access to pre-release testing versions from July.

3:54 PM PDT: Borderlands 3 is Ryzen+Radeon optimized, including FidelityFX. Gearbox also uttered "AMD Studios," an internal dev-relations moniker, detailed as a steady supply of AMD hardware to game developers at Gearbox. AMD is flexing its dev-relations muscle once again.

4:00 PM PDT: Unity talks about HDRP. Also confirms Ryzen+Radeon optimization, and support for FidelityFX.

4:07 PM PDT: Ubisoft confirms Ryzen+Radeon optimization for Tom Clancy's "Ghost Recon: Breakpoint," including FidelityFX, async-compute, FreeSync 2 HDR.

4:11 PM PDT: AMD launches Radeon RX 5700X 50th Anniversary Edition with 1.98 GHz Boost frequency, priced at $499, exclusively on AMD.com
4:12 AM PDT: AMD also announces Ryzen 9 3950X 16-core processor, priced $749, launches September.
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124 Comments on AMD E3 Next Horizon Event: Live Blog

#26
PerfectWave
AMD now is not for budget ppl anymore. Put in your brain
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#27
RH92
Mephis said:

My only point was that we shouldn't take leaks and rumors as facts. I could also be very wrong, they may announce it at the very end of the event. The leaked material looked weird to me, like it had been poorly edited.
I get what you saying but those leaks comes from Videocardz you can be 200% sure those are as real as it gets !
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#28
Mephis
RH92 said:

I get what you saying but those leaks comes from Videocardz you can be 200% sure those are as real as it gets !
OK. We will see. Will be glad to be wrong.
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#29
xkm1948
YEEEES I WAS RIGHT!

$499 special edition exclusive 5700XT! ONLY from AMD!
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#30
RH92
Mephis said:

OK. We will see. Will be glad to be wrong.
Told ya :laugh:
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#31
Naito
That $250 premium for the 3950X over a 3900X stings a bit
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#32
xkm1948
Naito said:

That $250 premium for the 3950X over a 3900X stings a bit
I mean they have to finish moving their Threadripper Gen 2 CPUs
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#33
Metroid
Naito said:

That $250 premium for the 3950X over a 3900X stings a bit
still cheaper than the threadripper 16 cores $849, i'm glad it was not $999. That means threadripper wont be as expensive as i thought it out to be, however it will be much more expensive than the 2xxx series.
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#34
nemesis.ie
It's an utter bargain compared to 9920x too.
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#35
Mephis
RH92 said:

Told ya :laugh:
I humbly stand corrected. I was wrong.

I was right about that leaked slide looking fake. They used a different one.
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#36
xorbe
That hail mary at the end, everyone had written off the possibility of a 3950X announcement that far in.
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#37
Metroid
Mephis said:

I humbly stand corrected. I was wrong.
I knew they would keep the best for last, that is usually protocol to end the show perfect. Remember that the tdp is based on the base clock frequency, so reason 3950x 3.5ghz 105w. That is still impressive, just for comparison.

Ryzen 2950XAugust 31, 2018, US $89916 (32)3.54.4180w

Ryzen 3950XJuly, 7 2019, US $749 16 (32)3.54.7105w

Ryzen 3900XJuly 7, 2019, US $49912 (24)3.84.6105w
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#38
springs113
The 3950x cost $100 more than i expected but is $250 less than my $1950x.
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#39
Wavetrex
nemesis.ie said:

It's an utter bargain compared to 9920x too.
Look at how much Intel was charging for a 16-core Xeon just 2 years ago ...

$749 is fantastic for such a compute monster .... and also very likely to slowly drop in time.
The only sad part is the wait until September-October.
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#40
Metroid
Wavetrex said:

The only sad part is the wait until September-October.
Time to get the 12 cores and not look back. 3950x is far away. They will hand pick all 3950x to be very binned silicons hence 105w.
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#41
Crackong
R.I.P Intel's whole HEDT lineup.
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#42
ShurikN
Regular 5700X looks ok for 450 when compared to 2070. On the other hand the lower part should have been 350. Tops.
But my biggest issue is that the chip is barely larger than RX 580, yet the prices have almost doubled. I know 7nm is more expensive than 14/12 from GloFo, but not 2X more.
My 2c
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#43
xkm1948
Crackong said:

R.I.P Intel's whole HEDT lineup.
Quad DDR4, more PCIE lanes and AVX512. Remember HEDT is for productivity, not just for gaming.
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#44
Mats
ShurikN said:

Regular 5700X looks ok for 450 when compared to 2070. On the other hand the lower part should have been 350. Tops.
But my biggest issue is that the chip is barely larger than RX 580, yet the prices have almost doubled. I know 7nm is more expensive than 14/12 from GloFo, but not 2X more.
My 2c
Performance also sets the price, not just die area. Compare with Pentium 66 MHz. :D

Anyway, do we really need more comments about what the price should have been? I think AMD knows business better than most of us individuals. ;)
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#45
Wavetrex
xkm1948 said:

Quad DDR4, more PCIE lanes and AVX512. Remember HEDT is for productivity, not just for gaming.
Still RIP.

Price difference is too great.
You could buy TWO 16-core AMD computers for the price of ONE 16-core Intel.

(Or almost 3x 12c vs 1 12c Intel)

Oh, and Threadripper will come... probably announced later in the year, after 3950X launch, and completely smash anything Intel HEDT has.
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#47
kings
Navi is overpriced, like the Nvidia lineup!

But, it was somewhat expected that AMD would take advantage of Nvidia raising prices to raise their prices as well!

This release will not create the desired impact and will not put Nvidia on the alert, but at least now there is an alternative.

AMD didn´t say anything about TDP, which probably means that the 12nm Nvidia continues to be significantly more efficient!
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#48
Mats
kings said:

Navi is overpriced, like the Nvidia lineup!
So buy something cheaper then.
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#49
Grog6
I realized from these slides and performance graphs that the few years old RX480 Video card with 8GB I have is 1/3 the performance of Nvidia's top of the line, and was 1/10 the price.

The processor I have right now is 80% of the performance of intels' best, and was $40.

The conventional logic of upgrades is dead.

Two to 4 years difference isn't squat, unless you're talking AMD; they've came a long way in 4 years.

I replayed Crysis last week with all the eyecandy on, and it still was over 30fps at 1920x1200.

Much better than the first time I played it, lol.

This mobo played well with 3x 7970's in crossfire; I need to find two more 480's, lol.
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#50
kings
Mats said:

So buy something cheaper then.
Why so salty? I get you are an AMD fan, but is the reality!

If people criticized the price of RTX cards, they can´t say now that the price is good in AMD.
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