Friday, July 5th 2019

AMD to Slash Radeon RX 5700 "Navi" Series Prices Ahead of Launch: $399 & $349

NVIDIA attempted to torpedo the Radeon RX 5700 "Navi" series graphics card launch with the introduction of its $499 GeForce RTX 2070 Super and $399 RTX 2060 Super. AMD claimed that its upcoming Radeon RX 5700 XT outperformed the original RTX 2070, while its smaller sibling, the RX 5700 outperforms the original RTX 2060. In its E3-2019 reveal, AMD disclosed launch prices of the RX 5700 XT and the RX 5700 to be USD $449 and $379, respectively. The RTX Super launch jeopardizes this, and so, according to VideoCardz, AMD is revising its launch prices.

The Radeon RX 5700 XT now reportedly launches at just $399, while the Radeon RX 5700 is priced at $349. The RX 5700 XT is claimed to beat the original RTX 2070, while the $399 RTX 2060 Super is slower than the RTX 2070. On the other hand, the RX 5700, which was claimed to beat the $349 original RTX 2060, is now price-matched with it, unless NVIDIA comes up with price-cuts. Older reports suggested that with the advent of the RTX Super series, NVIDIA would retire the RTX 2060 and RTX 2070, after the market digests inventories left in the channel. AMD's latest move is sure to disturb that digestion.

Update Jul 6th: This has been confirmed officially by AMD here.
Source: VideoCardz
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169 Comments on AMD to Slash Radeon RX 5700 "Navi" Series Prices Ahead of Launch: $399 & $349

#26
kapone32
People are so quick to jump on either band wagon. I will say it again if the 5700XT is just as fast as a Vega 64 with 1/2 the stream processors (according to AMD). It is a commendable jump in performance vs Polaris even though pricing is not even close to Polaris. The 2060 super and 2070 super are cards that are faster than the previous gen (sort of ) period. As there are no reviews for the NAVI cards comments like "GCN rebrand" "faster than X or Y card" "Consumes less power" are all just guesses.
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#27
medi01
I No, post: 4075058, member: 165756"
5700 is not faster than 2060 Super
It is.



the54thvoid, post: 4075081, member: 79251"
2070S is ahead. In vulkan and DX12.


I No, post: 4075058, member: 165756"
- If they would've kept the current pricing they would be DOA
Only in minds living in green reality distortion field who won't buy them even after price drop anyhow, so why should AMD even give a flying f*ck about them? Just let Huang have them.
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#28
HenrySomeone
LMAO, well it's the only thing left for them to do after Nvidia's Super bombing run, otherwise only the most hardcore and deluded fanboys would even consider getting one over 2060s/2070s, but even so, I expect sales to be poor and prices to drop some more not to long from now. Still, with 2080Ti basically being required for smooth rtx experience, they might be somewhat relevant until Ampere next year, after which they'll be in BIG trouble once again...
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#29
s3thra
Fluffmeister, post: 4075038, member: 101373"
A price drop BEFORE launch? Looks like the new super cards have worked their magic and done consumers a favour.
Moral of this story: competition is GOOD!
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#30
kapone32
Vya Domus, post: 4075080, member: 169281"
I never really understood why AMD is always mandated to put a lower price on their cards compared to the equivalent products from Nvidia.
The money in GPUs is in the mid range. The high end is for enthusiasts or people with more money than sense.
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#31
medi01
I No, post: 4075092, member: 165756"
It's neither full CGN nor full RDNA (that would be interesting to look at when the new gen is out in 2020).
It is "full RDNA" according to the only source that could possibly confirm what MICRO ARCHITECTURE the card is using.
CGN as instruction set is not going anywhere, the same applies to stuff used by nVidia (which is older) or Intel (times older).

I No, post: 4075092, member: 165756"
To put it short if it can't perform better, make sure it's cheaper.
570 performed TIMES better, still was outsold by terrible 1050/1050Ti/1650.
AMD needs to give up on technologically clueless, dropping price doesn't help.
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#32
I No
medi01, post: 4075096, member: 158537"
It is.







Only in minds living in green reality distortion field who won't buy them even after price drop anyhow, so why should AMD even give a flying f*ck about them? Just let Huang have them.
That's well within the margins of error.
Quick to pull that trigger aren't you? If it turns out to be better sure as hell i'll buy into 5700XT or the 5700 if it fits my needs, now let me as you this if you would have to choose between 2070S and 5700XT what would you get?
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#33
medi01
s3thra, post: 4075099, member: 186348"
Moral of this story: competition is GOOD!
Could as well be a 2 step move.

I don't think faux leaks by AdoredTV, that claimed 5700 is slow and power hungry, exactly the opposite of what it actually is, were accidental.
Two 8 pin ports on a 180w card look like a distracting maneuver.
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#34
Vya Domus
I No, post: 4075092, member: 165756"
It's neither full CGN nor full RDNA
It's not "full RDNA " ? What the hell does that even mean. Where's the full RDNA ?

This subject is severely out of your scope of understanding mate.
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#35
medi01
I No, post: 4075102, member: 165756"
That's well within the margins of error.
Yeah. It only counts if AMD card is slower. Oh wait.

I No, post: 4075102, member: 165756"
if you would have to choose between 2070S and 5700XT what would you get?
That's an easy question: even if nVidia would be the only provider of PC GPUs, I'd rather quit PC gaming, than buy from this disgusting company.

I No, post: 4075102, member: 165756"
If it turns out to be better sure as hell i'll buy into 5700XT or the 5700
Oh, please, whom are you kidding, fanboi? People who make such purchases do not spout FUD.
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#36
I No
medi01, post: 4075101, member: 158537"
It is "full RDNA" according to the only source that could possibly confirm what MICRO ARCHITECTURE the card is using.
CGN as instruction set is not going anywhere, the same applies to stuff used by nVidia (which is older) or Intel (times older).


570 performed TIMES better, still was outsold by terrible 1050/1050Ti/1650.
AMD needs to give up on technologically clueless, dropping price doesn't help.
The only reason those sold better is because 99% of the laptops have those chips while jack all have the 570. And last time I checked OEM still outsells DYI.
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#37
kapone32
medi01, post: 4075101, member: 158537"
It is "full RDNA" according to the only source that could possibly confirm what MICRO ARCHITECTURE the card is using.
CGN as instruction set is not going anywhere, the same applies to stuff used by nVidia (which is older) or Intel (times older).


570 performed TIMES better, still was outsold by terrible 1050/1050Ti/1650.
AMD needs to give up on technologically clueless, dropping price doesn't help.
The power of propaganda
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#38
medi01
I No, post: 4075106, member: 165756"
The only reason those sold better is because 99% of the laptops have those chips
No. And stop making shit up.
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#39
ratirt
I No, post: 4075106, member: 165756"
The only reason those sold better is because 99% of the laptops have those chips while jack all have the 570. And last time I checked OEM still outsells DYI.
yes and now the laptops will have 5700xt and non-xt due to the lower power consumption and very decent performance. :) It is simple.
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#40
Manoa
[USER=169281]Vya[/USER]

he meens to say it only 250mm he whant the 750mm xD

I No said:
if you would have to choose between 2070S and 5700XT what would you get?

I would choise the 2070S, even if I hate nvidea: the "14nm" process is stronger than the "7nm" so the card will life longer becuase biger walls, and also the patterns are better (mybe ? I don't know)
but besides this 2 reasons, in any other reason the 5700XT is better, if the 5700XT have long warranty to make sure thare is not broken walls from the "7nm" then it's no problem to buy the 5700XT
but I don't wanne buy any of them, they all suckx, I whant 150 fps 3840x2160 so that when I put mods I would get around 120 :) mybe arcturus will give me it :)
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#41
Mr.Mopar392
atavax, post: 4075045, member: 188771"
The main thing that bugs me with the Navi cards is the single fan blower. They're loud and don't cool effectively. It makes it really hard to justify buying them.
sorry some of us watercool our cards, i'm glad amd have a reference design, you don't of to buy it now, just wait for aftermarket design.
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#42
yakk
Don't really agree the possible price drop, but I ALWAYS agree with more competitive prices! :)
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#43
londiste
Valantar, post: 4075074, member: 171585"
the improvement from 7nm isn't that big.
Consider Vega 64 and Radeon VII.
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#44
medi01
ratirt, post: 4075112, member: 165024"
yes and now the laptops will have 5700xt and non-xt due to the lower power consumption and very decent performance. :) It is simple.
Laptop have Vega 6/8/10 which is somewhere around MX130/150 for more than a year by now.
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#45
I No
ratirt, post: 4075112, member: 165024"
yes and now the laptops will have 5700xt and non-xt due to the lower power consumption and very decent performance. :) It is simple.
Good, this is what competition is supposed to be, options.


@medi01


You sir are not rooting for competition, I'm sorry, you're just blinded by some irrational hate towards a company that doesn't care about your opinion, matter of fact neither does AMD, unless you've been living under a rock for at least 2 decades, AMD and NVIDIA and INTEL and everybody's goal is to create vast amounts of profit regardless of the means. Let them kill each other and you as a consumer you rake in the benefits, lower prices, better support, you name it. There is no moral high-ground to be had here and if there is it doesn't concern you as an end user.
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#46
Nkd
Manu_PT, post: 4075094, member: 168799"
I see too much bla bla bla here. AMD lowered the prices for one reason only. They aren´t as good as people think and will be inferior to Nvidia previously comparable offers. As simple as that. I´m on this industry for almost 2 decades. You can find the excuses you want. Slashing prices on a non released product is never good. See you in 2 days on the reviews.
This right here is how people with brand loyalty think. Exactly this! I wish AMD never dropped prices lol. They got good products performing close to nvidia range and 100 below 2070s now, but somehow they will never have a good product. This thinking is the reason nvidia will keep raping your wallet. I am sure you are happy with that haha.
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#47
Darmok N Jalad
This really sums up the point of the 5700. Based on the 7nm and standard memory, it has to be much cheaper to manufacture than Vega 56/64 and VII. They can afford to price it aggressively and still make a profit. And no doubt AMD expected an NVIDIA response and had a price cut in the wings. This is how GPU launches used to work!
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#48
Nkd
kapone32, post: 4075095, member: 181865"
People are so quick to jump on either band wagon. I will say it again if the 5700XT is just as fast as a Vega 64 with 1/2 the stream processors (according to AMD). It is a commendable jump in performance vs Polaris even though pricing is not even close to Polaris. The 2060 super and 2070 super are cards that are faster than the previous gen (sort of ) period. As there are no reviews for the NAVI cards comments like "GCN rebrand" "faster than X or Y card" "Consumes less power" are all just guesses.
ridiculous. Stop reading that slide. Look at the leaked benches. its beating vega 64 handsomely. Stop going by that screenshot you see on the internet. Even real it seems like a typo. Do you really think it beats 2070 but it only beats vega 64 with half the stream processors? Its simply logic, use it. That is like saying vega 64 with all stream processors is faster then 2070 by 30%, which ain't true lol.

Darmok N Jalad, post: 4075127, member: 170588"
This really sums up the point of the 5700. Based on the 7nm and standard memory, it has to be much cheaper to manufacture than Vega 56/64 and VII. They can afford to price it aggressively and still make a profit. And no doubt AMD expected an NVIDIA response and had a price cut in the wings. This is how GPU launches used to work!
Ofcourse, I think they wanted nvidia to price it above them. I have said it so many times it seemed like that price had a price cut built in already looking how nvidia will price their cards. I think 499.99 is the lowest nvidia will go because they have a much bigger die and its likely already eating in to their margins. While AMD might be at 75% margins easy at 399.99.
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#49
Manoa
with all the attention on 2000 vs 5000, thare is one thing that I would like you guys to notice: take a look at 5700XT vs 1080 Ti :)
I know thare is a chance that this resoults isn't real, but interesting thing if it is :)
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#50
Hardware Geek
AMD just flipped the bird to Nvidia. Zen 2 is far more important to the long term health of the company and they have secured the next generation of consoles plus Mac pro. I really don't think that they care about the PC gamer nearly as much with those revenue streams already secured. If they can pull off a decent mid tier graphics card that's sells halfway well, that's icing.
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