Monday, February 3rd 2020

NVIDIA's Next-Generation "Ampere" GPUs Could Have 18 TeraFLOPs of Compute Performance

NVIDIA will soon launch its next-generation lineup of graphics cards based on a new and improved "Ampere" architecture. With the first Tesla server cards that are a part of the Ampere lineup going inside Indiana University Big Red 200 supercomputer, we now have some potential specifications and information about its compute performance. Thanks to the Twitter user dylan552p(@dylan522p), who did some math about the potential compute performance of the Ampere GPUs based on NextPlatform's report, we discovered that Ampere is potentially going to feature up to 18 TeraFLOPs of FP64 compute performance.

With Big Red 200 supercomputer being based on Cray's Shasta supercomputer building block, it is being deployed in two phases. The first phase is the deployment of 672 dual-socket nodes powered by AMD's EPYC 7742 "Rome" processors. These CPUs provide 3.15 PetaFLOPs of combined FP64 performance. With a total of 8 PetaFLOPs planned to be achieved by the Big Red 200, that leaves just a bit under 5 PetaFLOPs to be had using GPU+CPU enabled system. Considering the configuration of a node that contains one next-generation AMD "Milan" 64 core CPU, and four of NVIDIA's "Ampere" GPUs alongside it. If we take for a fact that Milan boosts FP64 performance by 25% compared to Rome, then the math shows that the 256 GPUs that will be delivered in the second phase of Big Red 200 deployment will feature up to 18 TeraFLOPs of FP64 compute performance. Even if "Milan" doubles the FP64 compute power of "Rome", there will be around 17.6 TeraFLOPs of FP64 performance for the GPU.
Sources: @dylan522p(Twitter), The Next Platform
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172 Comments on NVIDIA's Next-Generation "Ampere" GPUs Could Have 18 TeraFLOPs of Compute Performance

#126
ratirt
cucker tarlson
why should it be not up for the task though ?
How the hell am I supposed to know that? Do you see a new AMD card? No. Conclusions why it hasn't been released? Maybe you have facts please share.
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#127
cucker tarlson
ratirt
How the hell am I supposed to know that? Do you see a new AMD card? No. Conclusions why it hasn't been released? Maybe you have facts please share.
but that's what I'm talking about since the beginning.
if they had one in the making and it was good,we would have got it already.

they had 7nm on bigger cards since radeon 7,new architecture,new memory in good supply.there's nothing preventing them.they just have nothing going on and try to feed us the usual weak cliches.
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#128
ratirt
cucker tarlson
but that's what I'm talking about since the beginning.
if they had one in the making and it was good,we would have got it already.

they had 7nm on bigger cards since radeon 7,new architecture,new memory in good supply.there's nothing preventing them.they just have nothing going on and try to feed us the usual weak cliches.
OMG. I can't believe we are agreeing on something. yes. That is what I think as well. If AMD had one they would have released it. Maybe they had one but decided not too. remember Radeon 7 right. Was that a good card? Yes as a workstation. For gaming (as high end) it was meh. I'm 100% sure AMD tried to make a big navi with RDNA and maybe AMD manufactured one but decided not to release to avoid (maybe) radeon VII's mistake or simply it was not ready or up for the task(task meaning compete on a satisfying lvl with NV cards). It was expensive with all the HBM2 memory and stuff.

If they have or not, is your guess. We will see in time. It was said 2020 new card. Lets see what AMD has up its sleeves.
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#129
cucker tarlson
ratirt
OMG. I can't believe we are agreeing on something. yes. That is what I think as well. If AMD had one they would have released it. Maybe they had one but decided not too. remember Radeon 7 right. Was that a good card? Yes as a workstation. For gaming (as high end) it was meh. I'm 100% sure AMD tried to make a big navi with RDNA and maybe AMD manufactured one but decided not to release to avoid (maybe) radeon VII's mistake or simply it was not ready or up for the task(task meaning compete on a satisfying lvl with NV cards). It was expensive with all the HBM2 memory and stuff.

If they have or not, is your guess. We will see in time. It was said 2020 new card. Lets see what AMD has up its sleeves.
well it was marketed as gaming too

https://www.forbes.com/sites/patrickmoorhead/2019/01/15/amd-surprises-with-radeon-vii-at-ces-2019/#6dded6358168

it was a good card imo,just sucks they didn't allow aib versions and e.g. a cheaper 12gb version
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#130
ratirt
cucker tarlson
well it was marketed as gaming too

https://www.forbes.com/sites/patrickmoorhead/2019/01/15/amd-surprises-with-radeon-vii-at-ces-2019/#6dded6358168

it was a good card imo,just sucks they didn't allow aib versions and e.g. a cheaper 12gb version
Yes it was marketed as that but come on. You and I know better. Derivative from a workstations graphics just to have something to compete with NV. Now, the 5700xt is trading blows with R7 in some games.
For gaming, It wasn't that great considering the price you had to pay for it. I was going for one but at the last time I decided not to buy it. Went Vega 64.
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#131
cucker tarlson
ratirt
Yes it was marketed as that but come on. You and I know better. Derivative from a workstations graphics just to have something to compete with NV. Now, the 5700xt is trading blows with R7 in some games.
For gaming, It wasn't that great considering the price you had to pay for it. I was going for one but at the last time I decided not to buy it. Went Vega 64.
for 4k ?
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#132
ratirt
cucker tarlson
for 4k ?
I play 4k with Vega 64. Well not all games can run 4k 60FPS but there are titles that Vega can handle no problem. Unless you are asking about something else?
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#133
cucker tarlson
I ditched gtx1080 for 1440p cause it was starting to lack performance in some scenarios
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#134
ratirt
cucker tarlson
I ditched gtx1080 for 1440p cause it was starting to lack performance in some scenarios
I switch to 1440p in some games as well. Divinity2 original sin is one of them. I'm getting a new GPU for sure but I need to wait a bit longer. Besides, I play less and less now. Got 2 other babies to take care of. My threadrippers 3970X. Been racking my brain with what else needs to improved and since this is new stuff, it is hard to find parts that are up my alley.

You specs says 2070S. That should be OK with a large number of games games running 4k?
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#135
cucker tarlson
ratirt
I switch to 1440p in some games as well. Divinity2 original sin is one of them. I'm getting a new GPU for sure but I need to wait a bit longer. Besides, I play less and less now. Got 2 other babies to take care of. My threadrippers 3970X. Been racking my brain with what else needs to improved and since this is new stuff, it is hard to find parts that are up my alley.

You specs says 2070S. That should be OK with a large number of games games running 4k?
no idea,was never interested in 4k gaming.
once I'm at 1440p on a desktop monitor I wanna get into higher settings not more pixels.
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#136
ratirt
cucker tarlson
no idea,was never interested in 4k gaming.
once I'm at 1440p on a desktop monitor I wanna get into higher settings not more pixels.
Well if I can't go 4k max or at least high settings, I dial down to 1440p.
I like 4k maxed out. It looks great.
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#137
cucker tarlson
ratirt
Well if I can't go 4k max or at least high settings, I dial down to 1440p.
I like 4k maxed out. It looks great.
I prefer 1440p on a 24" screen,looks sharp as hell and it's pretty easy to get tremendous framerates on a 1080Ti/2070S class card
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#138
ratirt
cucker tarlson
I prefer 1440p on a 24" screen,looks sharp as hell and it's pretty easy to get tremendous framerates on a 1080Ti/2070S class card
Oh, so you are one of those high refresh rate dudes? I'm more 4k dude.

maybe lets get back to the topic.
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#139
cucker tarlson
ratirt
Oh, so you are one of those high refresh rate dudes? I'm more 4k dude.

maybe lets get back to the topic.
4k on a desktop screen is a gimmick imo,huge performance hit for little tangible returns.
would rather have better shadows for example.
the games are getting prettier but the prettier they get,the more they expose how traditional shadows and light just fall more and more behind the curve.
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#140
ratirt
cucker tarlson
4k on a desktop screen is a gimmick imo,huge performance hit for little tangible returns.
would rather have better shadows for example.
the games are getting prettier but the prettier they get,the more they expose how traditional shadows and light just fall more and more behind the curve.
Well, I've got very good eyes and I really do see the difference. It was a love from the first sight with 4k for me. What can I tell you. 4k for me please.
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#141
cucker tarlson
I do too.the fact that I see it doesn't mean I need it or want it.
Enough to see the returns from going 4k on a desktop screen provides laugably low returns in comaprison to the performance hit,which is usually getting your fps havled vs 1440p
40 fps at 4k or 80 fps at 1440p ? no contest for me.
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#142
ratirt
cucker tarlson
I do too.the fact that I see it doesn't mean I need it or want it.
Enough to see the returns from going 4k on a desktop screen provides laugably low returns in comaprison to the performance hit,which is usually getting your fps havled vs 1440p
40 fps at 4k or 80 fps at 1440p ? no contest for me.
Like I said. If 4k is a no go for my card I will dial down the resolution. despite the FPS impact, I like the way 4k looks and I want to play with this resolution. Lets say that is my goal for 2020 with a new GPU.
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#143
cucker tarlson
ratirt
Like I said. If 4k is a no go for my card I will dial down the resolution. despite the FPS impact, I like the way 4k looks and I want to play with this resolution. Lets say that is my goal for 2020 with a new GPU.
to play at 60 ? gonna need a lot.
2x V64 for sure unless you'll be getting a new card for the games you alreay have only.Then you might only need something 40% faster like 2080.
Games are getting prettier but more demanding at the same timme too.A 2016 card like gtx1080 is barely enough for 1440p these days.
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#144
ratirt
cucker tarlson
to play at 60 ? gonna need a lot.
2x V64 for sure unless you'll be getting a new card for the games you alreay have only.Then you might only need something 40% faster like 2080.
Games are getting prettier but more demanding at the same timme too.A 2016 card like gtx1080 is barely enough for 1440p these days.
Yes but you are talking about the newest games. The top notch of the performance eaters. 2x Vega 64. You know that is not much of an option. Never been a huge fan of Xfire or SLI. I will wait and get a decent GPU sooner or later.
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#145
cucker tarlson
ratirt
Yes but you are talking about the newest games. The top notch of the performance eaters. 2x Vega 64. You know that is not much of an option. Never been a huge fan of Xfire or SLI. I will wait and get a decent GPU sooner or later.
I mean single card with 2x vega 64 pefrormance like 2080Ti

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#146
ratirt
cucker tarlson
I mean single card with 2x vega 64 pefrormance like 2080Ti


Yes exactly. That is why I'm going to wait :)
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#147
cucker tarlson
ratirt
Yes exactly. That is why I'm going to wait :)
for amd card to match 2080Ti ? 2021.
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#148
ratirt
cucker tarlson
for amd card to match 2080Ti ? 2021.
We had that conversation. Something is coming 2020 I can afford to wait. If it turns out not so good I can go other vendors.
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#149
cucker tarlson
ratirt
Something is coming 2020
rdna1 refresh
lisa su said it herself

is it gonna disrupt 4k gaming ? for someone who's still on vega for 4k yes.
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#150
ratirt
cucker tarlson
rdna1 refresh
lisa su said it herself

is it gonna disrupt 4k gaming ? for someone who's still on vega for 4k yes.
So I've got nothing to worry about :) Worth to wait.

About that refresh. Since you are very eager to point it out.
This is what Lisa Su said about RDNA2.

"In 2019, we launched our new architecture in GPUs, it's the RDNA architecture, and that was the Navi based products. You should expect that those will be refreshed in 2020 - and we'll have a next generation RDNA architecture that will be part of our 2020 lineup. So we're pretty excited about that, and we'll talk more about that at our financial analyst day. On the data centre GPU side, you should also expect that we'll have some new products in the second half of this year."
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