Monday, March 9th 2020

AMD Radeon RX 590 GME is a Dressed Up RX 580: No more 12nm, Lower Performance

When AMD pushed out the Radeon RX 590 in late-2018, its key spec was that the "Polaris 20" die had been ported to GlobalFoundries 12LPP (12 nm) silicon fabrication node, yielding headroom to dial up clock speeds over the 14 nm RX 580. The underlying silicon was labeled "Polaris 30" as it was the second major version of the "Polaris 10" die. NVIDIA's GeForce GTX 16-series beat the RX 590 both in performance and price, with even the GTX 1650 Super performing on-par, and the GTX 1660 beating it. It turns out that AMD has a lot of unsold 14 nm "Polaris 20" inventory to go around, and it wants to release them out as the new RX 590 GME.

An Expreview review of an XFX-branded RX 590 GME confirms that the the chip is indeed based on the "Polaris 20 XTR" silicon which is built on the 14 nm process. The card has GPU clock speeds that appear similar to reference clock speeds of the RX 590, with 1460 MHz base compared to 1469 MHz of the original RX 590. But this is where the similarities end. In its testing, Expreview found that the RX 590 GME is on average 5% slower than the RX 590, and performs halfway between the RX 580 and the original RX 590, which are differentiated by a roughly 10% performance gap. The 5% performance deficit would put the RX 590 GME on par with the new RX 5500 XT 4 GB, and trading blows with the GTX 1650 Super. Thankfully, the RX 590 GME is priced lower than RX 590 cards (about 7.7% cheaper), and could be very region-specific. The fact that the RX 590 GME is being sold with full AIB partner branding and retail packaging, shows that this isn't an OEM-only product. Read the complete review in the source link below.
RX 590 GME Front View RX 590 GME PCB RX 590 GME Polaris 20 GPU RX 590 GME GPU-Z RX 590 GME Performance
Source: Expreview
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36 Comments on AMD Radeon RX 590 GME is a Dressed Up RX 580: No more 12nm, Lower Performance

#1
notb
Why do you assume these chips are unsold inventory?
AMD is still making Polaris GPUs (and will keep making them for a while).

They simply decided that an RX590something will sell better than RX580. Which is likely true.
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#3
Mescalamba
No surprise there. And nothing against AMD really. Its not like nVidia didnt make same stuff over and over.. and over. :D
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#4
xkm1948
Polaris surely is one of the most stuborn GPU in the market. 4 yrs old now!
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#5
eidairaman1
The Exiled Airman
Should of called this a RX 585.
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#6
Chomiq
Another useless SKU.
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#7
notb
Chomiq
Another useless SKU.
Why useless?
They're making chips. They're selling for as much as they can.
If this is any different from RX580, it should get a new name. If not, they're still entitled to do so.

Go to your boss and tell him the company makes useless products. :)
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#8
ARF
eidairaman1
Should of called this a RX 585.
RX 5100 or RX 5200.
notb
Why useless?
They're making chips. They're selling for as much as they can.
If this is any different from RX580, it should get a new name. If not, they're still entitled to do so.

Go to your boss and tell him the company makes useless products. :)
What does "they are making chips" even mean?
The Chinese will buy RX 5500 or RX 5500 XT instead of this.

This is old, weak, power hungry, expensive, lacks any new modern features and qualities.
It is basically a chip based on R&D in 2012-2013.

Meh, move on...
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#9
ASOT
eidairaman1
Should of called this a RX 585.
Exactly like R9 280/x then the R9 285!
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#10
eidairaman1
The Exiled Airman
ARF
RX 5100 or RX 5200.



What does "they are making chips" even mean?
The Chinese will buy RX 5500 or RX 5500 XT instead of this.

This is old, weak, power hungry, expensive, lacks any new modern features and qualities.
It is basically a chip based on R&D in 2012-2013.

Meh, move on...
They are polaris, not navi...
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#13
EarthDog
r.h.p
Another low end card good for entry level pc
It is? Why wouldnt one just go 5600 xt? Faster and uses less power, no?
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#14
notb
ARF
What does "they are making chips" even mean?
The Chinese will buy RX 5500 or RX 5500 XT instead of this.
No, they won't.

I don't understand why some on this forum still don't get this. :o
AMD has limited supply of 7nm. Some products have to be made on a node that's easier to get.
They're doing what they can: making 14nm I/O dies, keeping SoCs 1 generation behind and so on.

Some Polaris GPUs, much like some Zen+ desktop CPUs, are still in production.
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#15
r.h.p
EarthDog
It is? Why wouldnt one just go 5600 xt? Faster and uses less power, no?
your right ED im frakin sik off AMD bring these mediocre crap 5700xt , that I buy for AUS 900 $$$

my comment was not the right choice of words and intellect , to be honest my VEGA 64 is sitting in the box GOING im so overcooked like me for spending so muchj$$ lol
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#16
ARF
notb
No, they won't.
That's not how things work, at all. The customers don't like the product. They go elsewhere. Either RX 5500 or some type of GeForce, there are plenty.
notb
I don't understand why some on this forum still don't get this. :eek:
AMD has limited supply of 7nm. Some products have to be made on a node that's easier to get.
They're doing what they can: making 14nm I/O dies, keeping SoCs 1 generation behind and so on.

Some Polaris GPUs, much like some Zen+ desktop CPUs, are still in production.
AMD can for sure do better. At least they can be more honest with the product positioning and segmentation.
The customers are tired of being treated badly by dishonest companies who only care how to milk them more.

In return, they get mediocre products.
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#18
gamefoo21
I called it.

I was talking with people, and I said the 590 GME is most likely an upclocked 580 to move inventory.

At least the price difference is worth it. 7.7% cheaper for 5% less performance. Actually works out in the consumers favour this time. :cool:
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#20
TechLurker
Maybe the cores are spare, old "new stock" that were intended for mining cards. Since the craze died, makers probably held onto those chips and repurposed them with AMD's blessing. It would help dump the remaining batch of old 580-level chips intended for mining cards, and both the AIBs and AMD benefit off milking every last cent of their lower end GPUs and continue to flood the entry level to middle-low level with sub-200 USD cards.

Which would also conveniently buy them enough time to build sufficient stock of 7nm chips for 5500 and 5600 series GPUs that will eventually rep.
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#21
Roph
ASOT
Exactly like R9 280/x then the R9 285!
Eh, 280 was a rebranded first gen GCN 79xx, 285 (which was later rebranded as the 380) was a new 3rd gen GCN chip more like Fiji (FuryX) though. Meanwhile you had second gen GCN with Hawaii as the 290 and later rebranded as the 390. AMD's lineup is/was messy.

Also funnily enough, Tonga (285, 380) has the highest performance and still to date (even beating out Navi) best quality H.264 hardware encoding from AMD.
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#22
notb
ARF
That's not how things work, at all. The customers don't like the product. They go elsewhere. Either RX 5500 or some type of GeForce, there are plenty.
You still don't get this. AMD can't make more 7nm Navi. So they can try to sell a refreshed Polaris or nothing. Simple enough?
AMD can for sure do better. At least they can be more honest with the product positioning and segmentation.
The customers are tired of being treated badly by dishonest companies who only care how to milk them more.
Or maybe AMD finally starts to act like a normal company?
They have the hardcore fanbase.
They have very good press (mostly thanks to outsourced manufacturing but whatever :) ).
Now it's time to make money.
In return, they get mediocre products.
This product is just as "mediocre" as AMD GPUs used to be for the last few years. And they managed to sell quite a lot.
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#23
theoneandonlymrk
notb
You still don't get this. AMD can't make more 7nm Navi. So they can try to sell a refreshed Polaris or nothing. Simple enough?

Or maybe AMD finally starts to act like a normal company?
They have the hardcore fanbase.
They have very good press (mostly thanks to outsourced manufacturing but whatever :) ).
Now it's time to make money.

This product is just as "mediocre" as AMD GPUs used to be for the last few years. And they managed to sell quite a lot.
Totally unbiased opinion there Notb , well done, not.
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#24
Fluffmeister
Very dodgy launch, and I thought they were the shining light in corporate land.
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#25
ARF
AMD promised 2020 to be a better year. So far, 2020 turns out to be a disastrous year for everyone.
3 months on in 2020, and AMD hasn't released anything significant yet.

AMD CEO Lisa Su interview — 2020 will be a bigger product year for us
venturebeat.com/2019/11/03/amd-ceo-lisa-su-interview-2020-will-be-a-bigger-product-year-for-us/

2020 Will Be High Performance Computing Year for AMD, Says Lisa Su
segmentnext.com/2020/03/04/amd-product-lisa-su/


AMD Zen 3 processors will arrive by March 2021 at the latest
And 5nm AMD Zen 4 will follow by 2022
www.techradar.com/news/amd-zen-3-processors-will-arrive-by-march-2021-at-the-latest

N5 Zen 4 in 2022, while no word on N5 GPUs ?
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