Monday, April 6th 2020

Intel 10th Gen Core Desktop Marketing Materials Confirm Core Counts

Marketing materials of Intel's upcoming 10th generation Core "Comet Lake-S" desktop processors leaked to the web confirm the lineup's core-counts. The series will be led by 10-core/20-thread Core i9 processors, with Thermal Velocity Boost frequencies of up to 5.30 GHz. The Core i7 series will consist of 8-core/16-thread processors, with up to 5.10 GHz TVB frequencies. The Core i5 series gets its biggest shot in the arm, with the introduction of HyperThreading for the first time in 8 generations (the last Core i5 desktop processors with HTT were dual-core first-generation Core chips). The 10th gen Core i5 series chips are 6-core/12-thread, with clock-speeds running up to 4.80 GHz.

These frequencies should indicate two interesting things. One, that the Core i5-10600K will outperform the Core i7-8700K (6-core/12-thread, up to 4.70 GHz boost), resulting in a roughly 35% increase in price-performance vs. the i7-8700K, if it ends up being priced at $260. Two, that the Core i7-10700K will outperform the Core i9-9900K on virtue of 100 MHz higher frequencies, and give the segment a roughly 30% price-performance increase compared to the i9-9900K, if the i7-10700K ends up priced at $380. The Core i9-10900K will outperform the i9-9900K both in single- and multi-threaded fronts given its 300 MHz higher max boost and two extra cores (four extra threads), in what could be a roughly 25% price-performance gain, assuming an unchanged $500 price.
Intel's ability to price the i9-10900K north of $500 will be severely restricted by AMD's positioning of the Ryzen 9 3900X, given that the 12-core chip has sold for around $450 in more than one seasonal sale. A bill-of-materials analysis from February suggests that AMD has given itself "massive" cost-cutting headroom with its chiplet approach, and can aggressively cut prices of the 3900X to compete with the i9-10900K. The same goes for its Ryzen 7 3800X and Ryzen 5 3600X.
Source: VideoCardz
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48 Comments on Intel 10th Gen Core Desktop Marketing Materials Confirm Core Counts

#2
ratirt
Maybe not DOA but nothing new for sure and that is in terms of boost in performance by mere margin by some frequency boost and higher price. The latter one is as obvious as the fact that the Earth circles the Sun.
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#4
btarunr
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IceShroom
Power consumption??
The 10900K and 10700K could be 125W TDP, and the 10600K could be 95W TDP.
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#5
Dave65
IceShroom
Power consumption??
125 watt on the box and 440 watt when you turn it on. :roll: :roll:
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#6
hat
Enthusiast
Dave65
125 watt on the box and 440 watt when you turn it on. :roll: :roll:
The box it comes in consumes 125w :laugh:
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#9
Tigerfox
(the last Core i5 desktop processors with HTT were dual-core first-generation Core chips)
That is not entirely true. There has been a Dualcore-i5 with HT and 35W up to Haswell (2390T/3470T/4570T).
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btarunr
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Lindatje
It comes with a new boxed cooler. www.airedale.com/web/Products/Chillers/TurboChill-Water-Cooled-Chiller.htm
The K SKUs come with no cooler. So you spend at least $40 on one that can tame these chips at stock speeds. You'll basically need a cooler that can cool stock i9-9900KS (125 W TDP) without breaking a sweat.

On the other hand, the Wraith Prism included with 3800X and 3900X is very good for stock usage (very quiet, looks great).
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#11
Tomgang
Yawn, besides the name and boost clocks. Not much new here yet again.

Wake me when Intel deside to finally move on from 14 NM to 10 nm. I'm tired of this cooking soup on old ingredients:shadedshu:
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#14
Basard
Xx Tek Tip xX
$500 for a 10900K would be very good value
Excellent. $750 it is then!
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Xx Tek Tip xX
Basard
Excellent. $750 it is then!
It probably will be, and it'll still sell : P
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#16
ppn
Multi threaded bench system power with 9900Ks can reach 199 watts at 4,99Ghz all day long, oh the tragedy.
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#20
Xajel
Where are those people who said gamers doesn't need more than 4 Cores ?

Now even Intel's fans are thanking AMD for the competition.


And no, I have Intel CPUs in all of my machines. I'm just open minded, and gaming isn't the only thing you do in homes.
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#21
ppn
What do they mean by bringing the silicon closer to the substrate. is the substrate thin as paper or something, this is not good.

Here waiting for tiger lake backport, but is it on the same socket. Oh well.
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#22
Chloe Price
Xajel
Where are those people who said gamers doesn't need more than 4 Cores ?

Now even Intel's fans are thanking AMD for the competition.


And no, I have Intel CPUs in all of my machines. I'm just open minded, and gaming isn't the only thing you do in homes.
Without Ryzen, 7700K would probably still be their flagship for consumer market..
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#23
Xx Tek Tip xX
ppn
what do they mean by bringing the silicon closer to the substrate. is the substrate thin as paper or something, this is not good.
Have you ever seen a 9th gen chip? The die is much thicker than that of 8th gen meaning that more heat is trapped, by thinning down the die and bringing it down along with the package changes - it's going to be much easier to cool than 9th gen was whilst having a larger package, despite what the AMD memers seem to think.
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#24
WeeRab
btarunr
The K SKUs come with no cooler. So you spend at least $40 on one that can tame these chips at stock speeds. You'll basically need a cooler that can cool stock i9-9900KS (125 W TDP) without breaking a sweat.
Intel are being very coy about the power consumption of the 10 series. It would not surprise me at all if £100 cooling solution will be needed. Something like the Noctua 15 series on air, or £100+ watercooling system.
Despite that...I think they have done a stellar job in continuing to make the 14nm node remain relevant over the past 3 years.
They are running out of road now though.
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#25
Vayra86
At least its finally over 9000 now. That is really all there is to say.
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