Tuesday, September 8th 2020

NVIDIA GeForce RTX 3070 Founders Edition Pictured in the Flesh

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Here's one of the first clear pictures of an NVIDIA GeForce RTX 3070 Founders Edition graphics card pictured in the flesh (that isn't an NVIDIA press-shot or render). A PC enthusiast in China with access to Founders Edition cards of all three RTX 3000 series cards announced on September 1, posted a family shot, which provides a nice size comparison.

The RTX 3070 Founders Edition is noticeably shorter than the RTX 3080 FE. Both cards are dwarfed by the RTX 3090 FE. Unlike the RTX 3080 and RTX 3090, the RTX 3070 FE uses a more conventional approach to air-flow, with both of its cards on the obverse side of the card, even through the second fan still pushes some of its airflow through the PCB, through a partial cutout. All three cards use the 12-pin Molex MicroFit 3.0 power connector. The previous generation flagship RTX 2080 Ti is the butt of gamer memes thanks to the RTX 3070, as NVIDIA advertised it as being faster than the RTX 2080 Ti at half its price of $499 (starting price). This announcement has forced some RTX 2080 Ti owners to dump their cards on Ebay at throwaway prices.
Source: David Eneco (Twitter)

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50 Comments on NVIDIA GeForce RTX 3070 Founders Edition Pictured in the Flesh

#1
neatfeatguy
If the 3090 is as big (or just a tad bit larger) than my 980Ti AMP Omega, then the 3070 appears to be about the same size as a GTX 570 that I used to have....the Zotac model. Here's a picture to reference:
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#2
rtwjunkie
PC Gaming Enthusiast
I just had to go check the ebay reference. Most Buy It Now listings are about $750. Some desperate people are listing "Like new", or "Excellent Condition" and trying to ask for $900 to $950! :laugh:
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#3
R-T-B
rtwjunkieI just had to go check the ebay reference. Most Buy It Now listings are about $750. Some desperate people are listing "Like new", or "Excellent Condition" and trying to ask for $900 to $950! :laugh:
I grabbed a RTX 2080 Super for $400.00 and sold my Navi for $300.00. Navi sold almost instantly, and had to watch like a hawk for the Super. I'd say prices are healthy.
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#4
ppn
3070 is 2080S+5%, 3080+66%, until 3070Ti drops prices are nothing like healthy.
2070 is practically 3050 already.
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#5
Space Lynx
Astronaut
That 3080 is just gorgeous engineering imo. I bet it stays pretty cold even overclocked. I have a NZXT Aer-P fan for my main exhaust fan, and that sucker (pun intended) moves air good out of my case from the top (way better than stock fan with with comparable fan curve). I have 3x 120mm intakes, 4 sound proof side foam side panels, and I usually can't hear anything but a hum from my case and temps stay good. I expect my CPU to gain 5 celisus with the 3080 fan design, but that is ok, I expect I will lose 5 celsius with an aggressive fan curve instead of stock on the 2 fans on the cpu anyway, I have in the past regardless if any extra heat. Plus the hot air will get hit with cold air from the intake fans before it cycles into the CPU heatsink, or most of it anyway. I think its a genius design really. I might get a water cooler someday, I am unsure. I feel like this design is perfect for a water cooler aio cpu setup.
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#6
jonup
ppn3070 is 2080S+5%, 3080+66%, until 3070Ti drops prices are nothing like healthy.
2070 is practically 3050 already.
so $400+5%=$420. Last time i checked 3070 was supposed to be $500. base on that simple math, yeah I would say prices are healthy.
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#7
R-T-B
ppnprices are nothing like healthy.
I meant healthy as in "same as usual."

Not what you are probably wanting as a buyer, mind.
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#8
W1zzard
Interesting green sticker, looks a bit like the PCPartner stickers. Also not a press card as these come without stickers
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#9
Raendor
ppn3070 is 2080S+5%, 3080+66%, until 3070Ti drops prices are nothing like healthy.
2070 is practically 3050 already.
3070 beats 2080ti
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#10
Vya Domus
Can't quite get my head around why these "FE" things still exist and why does Nvidia advertise them so heavily, they are practically non existed outside the US and even there I can't imagine there are going to be many being made. I used to believe that their goal is to eventually ditch AIBs but instead they just seem to carry on with this bizarre differentiation.

Of course one possibility is that they use these to "claim" that their products have a certain price when in actual fact you never really see that in the real world.
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#11
laszlo


seems they used this card instead of hammer; probably the new testing requirements ......
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#12
rtwjunkie
PC Gaming Enthusiast
Those poor bearings!
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#13
cellar door
laszlo

seems they used this card instead of hammer; probably the new testing requirements ......
Those are plastic film stickers for protection.
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#14
Vayra86
Raendor3070 beats 2080ti
I'll believe that when I see an actual bench of a wide variety of games.

Until then, I think its a 'best case, might reach similar perf' scenario while the average perf is still some 10% lower. Which is still pretty good.
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#15
laszlo
cellar doorThose are plastic film stickers for protection.
you may be right; i still prefer the hammer test :laugh:
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#16
Vayra86
Vya DomusCan't quite get my head around why these "FE" things still exist and why does Nvidia advertise them so heavily, they are practically non existed outside the US and even there I can't imagine there are going to be many being made. I used to believe that their goal is to eventually ditch AIBs but instead they just seem to carry on with this bizarre differentiation.

Of course one possibility is that they use these to "claim" that their products have a certain price when in actual fact you never really see that in the real world.
They never served to ditch AIBs. They serve to keep them in line, to control the MSRP and to direct AIB pricing. Remember Nvidia's arguments with the Pascal FE pricing - they were sound and true - the AIBs were left wiggle room to undercut the FE OR place product above it that performed better. Which is exactly what happened. Cheap Pascal blowers were priced below FEs, good open airs were placed above it.

This is what AMD still fails so hard at. They think their ref cooler is just that, a product showing the world they have one, hopefully selling a few of them until AIBs can get their own versions out. They basically just release the chip and PCB, put a radial fan on it and hope things work out for the best. We know how that went.

Nvidia announcement day is usually a day where the company hijacks front pages entirely with a massive number of AIB announcements all presenting their versions of multiple SKUs. This is the case since Nvidia developed their NVTTM model/cooler introduced with the Titan - from the 700 series onward it was like this.
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#17
Vya Domus
Vayra86Remember Nvidia's arguments with the Pascal FE pricing - they were sound and true - the AIBs were left wiggle room to undercut the FE OR place product above it that performed better. Which is exactly what happened. Cheap Pascal blowers were priced below FEs, good open airs were placed above it.
Pascal FE carried a 100$ tax and were made available outside Nvidia's own site, of course they were more expensive than the cheapest non FE cards. This is the other way around, these FE are technically the cheaper ones, except you wont be able to find one.
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#18
Vayra86
Vya DomusPascal FE carried a 100$ tax and were made available outside Nvidia's own site, of course they were more expensive than the cheapest non FE cards. This is the other way around, these FE are technically the cheaper ones, except you wont be able to find one.
Yes. So clearly its not about selling them, but about the market push effect they create and support for AIB sales and exposure. Nvidia wins either way. They sell chips, or full products.
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#19
Vya Domus
Vayra86Yes. So clearly its not about selling them, but about the market push effect they create and support for AIB sales and exposure. Nvidia wins either way. They sell chips, or full products.
Or to quote prices that are garbage, you can view it both ways.
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#20
Vayra86
Vya DomusOr to quote prices that are garbage, you can view it both ways.
Whatever floats your boat. It doesn't change the bottom line, you can safely leave emotion out of business.
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#21
Vya Domus
Vayra86It doesn't change the bottom line
The only bottom line here is that Nvidia is advertising things that aren't exactly real, have been doing for a long time. That doesn't mean it should be considered normal.
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#22
bug
Vya DomusThe only bottom line here is that Nvidia is advertising things that aren't exactly real, have been doing for a long time. That doesn't mean it should be considered normal.
What exactly isn't real? Because I see real, bigger than expected performance jumps (even if real world benchmarking puts that 10-20% lower) at roughly the same prices as before.
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#24
ppn
Raendor3070 beats 2080ti
With what, it took 8704 shaders for 3080 to be 80% faster than 2944 shaders, so the equal of 2080 would be something with 45% less bandwidth and shaders that is 3060Ti with 448GBs 4800, clearly 3070 with 5800 shaders can't be much faster than 2080Super.
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