Monday, December 28th 2020

NVIDIA's Next-Gen Big GPU AD102 Features 18,432 Shaders

The rumor mill has begun grinding with details about NVIDIA's next-gen graphics processors based on the "Lovelace" architecture, with Kopite7kimi (a reliable source with NVIDIA leaks) predicting a 71% increase in shader units for the "AD102" GPU that succeeds the "GA102," with 12 GPCs holding 6 TPCs (12 SMs), each. 3DCenter.org extrapolates on this to predict a CUDA core count of 18.432 spread across 144 streaming multiprocessors, which at a theoretical 1.80 GHz core clock could put out an FP32 compute throughput of around 66 TFLOP/s.

The timing of this leak is interesting, as it's only 3 months into the market cycle of "Ampere." NVIDIA appears unsettled with AMD RDNA2 being competitive with "Ampere" at the enthusiast segment, and is probably bringing in its successor, "Lovelace" (after Ada Lovelace), out sooner than expected. Its previous generation "Turing" architecture saw market presence for close to two years. "Lovelace" could leverage the 5 nm silicon fabrication process and its significantly higher transistor density, to step up performance.
Sources: Kopite7kimi (Twitter), 3DCenter.org (Twitter), VideoCardz
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43 Comments on NVIDIA's Next-Gen Big GPU AD102 Features 18,432 Shaders

#2
cellar door
This is a terrible rumor - even suggesting that nvidia will replace ampere anytime soon make ZERO sense.

Yeah - lets have all the board partners dump the 3xxx line while they are selling every single card and the demand hasn't slowed down one bit. Then force AIB to go spend money on designing new cards and more marketing.

This is WCFtech level stuff article.
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#3
marios15
Combined with moving to TSMC 7/6nm (tsmc 7nm is 40% more dense than samsung 8nm), 71% sounds reasonable, this will probably be HPC/AI exclusive for ~1 year, like Ampere Volta and Turing were.
Stop acting like only gamers buy these chips.
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#4
Legacy-ZA
cellar doorThis is a terrible rumor - even suggesting that nvidia will replace ampere anytime soon make ZERO sense.

Yeah - lets have all the board partners dump the 3xxx line while they are selling every single card and the demand hasn't slowed down one bit. Then force AIB to go spend money on designing new cards and more marketing.

This is WCFtech level stuff article.
It could happen, a repeat of the GTX480 -> GTX580?
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#5
Lycanwolfen
AMD is going MCM mode next year which is basicly crossfire on a single card. Nvidia is thinking the same thing MCM on a single card or basicly SLI.

So far with the 2000 series and 3000 series out, my 2x 1070's in SLI work better then a single card in 2160P which is what I game at.

I could see 8k a possibility with two MCM video cards in SLI to run 4320P maybe. But it's highly unlikely that Nvidia or AMD want us gamers to have such nice things.

There main focus for the series they have now is 1440P which to me is a step backwards.
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#7
TumbleGeorge
But if numbers is true AMD has not any chance to competition. With up to +50% perf/watt for rdna3 will be joke to compare with Nvidia's progress.
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#8
Dazzm8
cellar doorThis is a terrible rumor - even suggesting that nvidia will replace ampere anytime soon make ZERO sense.

Yeah - lets have all the board partners dump the 3xxx line while they are selling every single card and the demand hasn't slowed down one bit. Then force AIB to go spend money on designing new cards and more marketing.

This is WCFtech level stuff article.
It doesn't seem to be suggesting it will be replaced anytime soon, it's just simply stating what's 'next'. That might be in a year from now, or longer.

Nvidia aren't stupid, they know these 3000 series cards are selling like hotcakes, issue is simply getting supply out.
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#9
Voluman
Well, it could be true as they don't have to care much about clearing inventories :D
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#10
Turmania
this is why I love competition, though we can not buy products from either company. so it has been very strange year indeed.
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#11
Vayra86
A certain 'leaker' was in need of a new paycheck it seems.
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#13
windwhirl
Metroid1st april joke? hehe
Ironic, since in Hispanic America today is the Day of the Innocent Saints (rough translation) Holy Innocents' Day, which is similar to April Fools.
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#14
Steevo
Why stop at 18K, why not 24K or 48K? If they really roll out a new GPU in a few months I can't wait to hear the justifications for Nvidiots paying through the nose for another GPU or have reduced epeen from not paying through the nose for the latest again.

Also, Nvidia isn't going to TSMC, they are staying with samsung, so unless Samsung improves their node they are still going to be limited by the process more than architecture again, and have a even more power hungry chip, that if larger will mean more defect dies, and thus higher priced.... Competition is glorious, AMD is held back by wafer supply, Nvidia is held back by wafer supply, and we the consumers have to pay to play.
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#15
Fabio
VolumanWell, it could be true as they don't have to care much about clearing inventories :D
lol what inventories xD? what cards? Amper was just a dream it never existed lol
Reviewer and people claiming to own one of those cards was actually hypnotized!
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#16
RH92
cellar doorThis is a terrible rumor - even suggesting that nvidia will replace ampere anytime soon make ZERO sense.
Yeah - lets have all the board partners dump the 3xxx line while they are selling every single card and the demand hasn't slowed down one bit. Then force AIB to go spend money on designing new cards and more marketing.
This is WCFtech level stuff article.
The only thing that makes ZERO sense here is you jumping on to absurd conclusions based on nothing more than your inability to comprehend what you are reading !

1) This article ( or Kopite7kimi twitt for that matter ) give 0 information when this transition might happen , which automaticaly makes your rant absurd .

2) It depends what '' anytime soon '' means to you which hopefully you do understand is not an universal metric . Replacing Ampere early 2021 seems indeed highly unlikely but replacing Ampere late 2021 or early 2022 is very very likely . If anything else Nvidia CEO himself has declared that Nvidia is targeting a yearly release schedule . So yeah it all depends what ''anytime soon'' means to you , but if you expect Ampere to last more than a year or a year and a half tops , then you are delusional , especially given Nvidia is finaly facing some kind of concurence from AMD ( as far as rasterized perf goes ) .
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#17
repman244
Legacy-ZAIt could happen, a repeat of the GTX480 -> GTX580?
The difference is that you could actually buy the 480 at launch.
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Legacy-ZA
repman244The difference is that you could actually buy the 480 at launch.
Yes, exactly why a refresh on the nm node could be the solution to this little problem since Samsungs 8nm seems to have trouble keeping up with demand.
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jabbadap
Legacy-ZAIt could happen, a repeat of the GTX480 -> GTX580?
That is more like 2080 to 2080 super, same arch just a tweaked chip(granted 580s gf110 were full re-spin from gf100 of the 480s. As 2080 Super just has the same but reconfigured ga102 as 2080).

And 5nm Lovelace won't be out soon, there will be Ampere refreshes long before that. 12GB 3060 and 20GB 3080ti will be out ca. q1 2021 and it won't take long from there to have full refresh. Be it 3000 Super's or just sku's with the ti moniker on them.
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#20
Legacy-ZA
jabbadapThat is more like 2080 to 2080 super, same arch just a tweaked chip(granted 580s gf110 were full re-spin from gf100 of the 480s. As 2080 Super just has the same but reconfigured ga102 as 2080).

And 5nm Lovelace won't be out soon, there will be Ampere refreshes long before that. 12GB 3060 and 20GB 3080ti will be out ca. q1 2021 and it won't take long from there to have full refresh. Be it 3000 Super's or just sku's with the ti moniker on them.
Pointless to release products that are never available and far overpriced in the market.
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#21
Mouth of Sauron
cellar doorThis is a terrible rumor - even suggesting that nvidia will replace ampere anytime soon make ZERO sense.

Yeah - lets have all the board partners dump the 3xxx line while they are selling every single card and the demand hasn't slowed down one bit. Then force AIB to go spend money on designing new cards and more marketing.

This is WCFtech level stuff article.
Well, that "Linda" architecture is supposed to be on Samsung (probably) 5nm, and as I understand their 8nm isn't that great...

Looks like something that surely won't happen in 2021, and 2022 is in question, too - yeah, they'll said early 2022 (or something) and it will become something like 'summer 2020 for Ampere'.

Also like rumours that make me think that I should wait RDNA3, because why-not, it's round the corner...

Both companies made good products - well, for people investing ludicrous amounts of money, still waiting for something that will interest me, to the point of buying it - no way they'll miss the opportunity to exploit it for at least a year... Surely, they are developing new stuff and that article can as well be correct, but the dates aren't close at all. There was huge investment in Ampere and RDNA2, no way anyone will give it up and say "no, 'Linda' is replacing the whole line, see ya" (it's AMDs fault they don't have easily mockable architecture name, like in Duron days :) )
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#22
hardcore_gamer
Big dies on 5nm are costly at the moment. I doubt this is happening any time soon. Even AMD is prioritizing CPUs over GPUs when it comes to 5nm because of the smaller chitplet die size.
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#23
ZoneDymo
whatever the case will be, you better focus on RT and DLSS or they wont send anymore founders edition until you change your editorial direction!
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#24
jabbadap
Legacy-ZAPointless to release products that are never available and far overpriced in the market.
Honestly I don't think they care one iota what the end price and availability is in the market. Currently they can sell all what they can produce and are still getting record revenues quarter after quarter. And more different skus they made more new cards they can sell...

Sure by consumer's pov current market sucks big time. But it's more because of absent for true new gen mid-range cards rather than pricier high end(I don't count 3060ti as mid-range). Ancient Polaris and lack luster 16 -series Turings just wont cut it anymore. Sure one can have good deals from 1-gen navis, but those aren't really mid-range either and yeah i think they are EOLled anyway to get room for other 7nm products. So what market really needs is a new $200-$250 mid-range champ, perfect 1080p and capable 1440p card as rx 480 or gtx 1060 were at the beginning.
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#25
N3M3515
jabbadapHonestly I don't think they care one iota what the end price and availability is in the market. Currently they can sell all what they can produce and are still getting record revenues quarter after quarter. And more different skus they made more new cards they can sell...

Sure by consumer's pov current market sucks big time. But it's more because of absent for true new gen mid-range cards rather than pricier high end(I don't count 3060ti as mid-range). Ancient Polaris and lack luster 16 -series Turings just wont cut it anymore. Sure one can have good deals from 1-gen navis, but those aren't really mid-range either and yeah i think they are EOLled anyway to get room for other 7nm products. So what market really needs is a new $200-$250 mid-range champ, perfect 1080p and capable 1440p card as rx 480 or gtx 1060 were at the beginning.
I have that dream too :(
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