Friday, October 14th 2022
NVIDIA Cancels GeForce RTX 4080 12GB, To Relaunch it With a Different Name
NVIDIA has decided to cancel the November 2022 launch of the GeForce RTX 4080 12 GB. The company will relaunch the card under a different name, though it didn't announce the replacement name just yet. The naming of the RTX 4080 12 GB was cause for much controversy. With the RTX 40-series "Ada," NVIDIA debuted three SKUs—the already launched RTX 4090 which is in stores right now; the RTX 4080 16 GB, and the RTX 4080 12 GB. Memory size notwithstanding, the RTX 4080 12 GB is a vastly different graphics card from the RTX 4080 16 GB.
The RTX 4080 12 GB and RTX 4080 16 GB didn't even share the same silicon. While the 16 GB model is based on the larger "AD103" silicon, has 9,728 CUDA cores, and a 256-bit wide GDDR6X memory bus; the RTX 4080 12 GB is based on the smaller "AD104" silicon, has just 7,680 CUDA cores (21% fewer CUDA cores); and a meager 192-bit wide GDDR6X memory bus. This had the potential to confuse buyers, especially given the $900 price. With criticism spanning not just social media but also bad press, NVIDIA decided to pull the plug on the RTX 4080 12 GB. The company will likely re-brand it as a successor to the RTX 3070 Ti, although then it will have a hard time justifying its $900 price-tag. The RTX 4080 16 GB, however, is on track for a November 16 availability date, with a baseline price of $1,200.
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The RTX 4080 12 GB and RTX 4080 16 GB didn't even share the same silicon. While the 16 GB model is based on the larger "AD103" silicon, has 9,728 CUDA cores, and a 256-bit wide GDDR6X memory bus; the RTX 4080 12 GB is based on the smaller "AD104" silicon, has just 7,680 CUDA cores (21% fewer CUDA cores); and a meager 192-bit wide GDDR6X memory bus. This had the potential to confuse buyers, especially given the $900 price. With criticism spanning not just social media but also bad press, NVIDIA decided to pull the plug on the RTX 4080 12 GB. The company will likely re-brand it as a successor to the RTX 3070 Ti, although then it will have a hard time justifying its $900 price-tag. The RTX 4080 16 GB, however, is on track for a November 16 availability date, with a baseline price of $1,200.
423 Comments on NVIDIA Cancels GeForce RTX 4080 12GB, To Relaunch it With a Different Name
can someone do a tldr for me ?
why people soo mad about this?
Also NVIDIA: RTX 4080 12GB
Oh well.
TLDR would be, ignore and move on, very little of value here, we will pick up when there is more news on the new cards...or when they are actually out.
Back to reality: The amount of scalping depends on the difference between MSRP and demand driven higher street price.
The two main counter strategies are:
1) Auction. AIBs or nVidia can auction the first charges, until broad availability is reached. Everyone interested can make his bid. The highest bids are winning. Consequence: Scalper and consumer are paying the same price. Nothing to gain for scalper.
2) Fill the warehouses with high stock and start selling, once there are enough to supply each buyer with a product. Consequence: Scalper won't find consumers, who will pay more.
In the past, Titan was significantly more expensive. These days the high-end models with 24 GB Vram are only a bit more expensive, the 4090 disproportionate more performant, than the x080 series. Good prices for fans of high-end GPUs. 3090 and 4090 are fairly priced. Within the next 4-6 weeks I will decide, which one I buy. 3090 around 1000$ or later the 4090 around 1600-1700$, once the early adopter problems are solved, market saturated, AMD 7000 in the shells.
40x0 series continues the problem of 30x0 series. Overpriced mid-tier cards.
Also a lot of new name guessing, assuming (wrongly, I might add) that it will affect price (or performance..) in any meaningful way.
All in all, we all doing NV a big service by keep :roll: ing this PR sunt around.
At least previous variants had the same GPU, and any memory bandwidth lost was technically required - removing one of 6 memory chips cuts the bus width by 1/6th, simple.
Not uhh... claiming it's the same product when it's entirely different
(See: apple with the US getting different hardware to the rest of hte world, and samsung with exynos vs snapdragon on the S22 series)
Maybe we need the Eu to turn around and say "you cant f*cking sell two different products under the same name" and get companies to stop this crapt
New Radeon release can't come soon enough.
People were saying the same thing about Navi 21 - that it would only match the RTX 2080 Ti. What happened in reality?
No Nvidia Killer? Big Navi's best could match the RTX 2080 Ti, fall short of the RTX 3080 Ti | TechSpot
GF 210, GT 610, GT 710, GT 730 and GT 1030 - a 2017 card at the extreme low-end starting at 100 euro o_O
Straw man argument
Just trying to look for proof to your point...
www.techpowerup.com/review/amd-radeon-rx-6900-xt/35.htmlThere are good reasons why AMD quit the "undercut NV so that its customers can buy overpriced NV cards for a bit less" I think.
Curiouly though, in the last quarter AMD margins were 10% higher than NVs. (across all products) about 50% (down from 56%) vs about 40% (down from 66%)3050 vs 6600 is the greatest of examples.
The former is significantly (a good tier) slower AND more expensive AND sells more.
Nvidia were trying to charge $900 for a xx60 Ti card. That's a disgusting precedent to set and because they got away with such a crazy increase during the pandemic/ETH-mining boom, they thought they could repeat the same insane price hike.