Friday, August 18th 2023

Samsung Said to Produce 300-Layer V-NAND in 2024

It appears that Samsung is getting ready to beat SK Hynix in the race to 300 plus layers of NAND Flash, at least according to reports coming out of South Korea. The Seoul Economic Daily claims in an exclusive that Samsung will have a 300 plus layer V-NAND—(V for Vertical or 3D NAND—chip ready for production in 2024 and could as such beat SK Hynix by as much as a year, depending on how soon Samsung can deliver. Currently Samsung's most cutting edge stacked NAND is a 236-layer product, which is four more layers than Micron and YMTC, but two less than SK Hynix.

What sticks out in the Seoul Economic Daily news piece is that unlike SK Hynix, which is going for a triple stack sandwich, Samsung will apparently stick with two stacks. This means that Samsung is aiming for over 150-layers of NAND per stack, which seems like a big risk to take when it comes to yields. The taller the stacks, the bigger the chance of a failed stack, but maybe Samsung has found a solution around this potential issue. As modern 3D NAND relies on Through Silicon Vias, it's easier to manufacture denser stacks than in the past when wire bonding was used, but even so, this seems like a big risk for Samsung to take. That said, considering the current low demand and news of further cutbacks in production, it might be a good time for Samsung to utilise its fabs to test out this new, more densely stacked NAND to see if the company can mass produce it without issues. Samsung's roadmap calls for a 1000 plus layer V-NAND product by 2030, but it seems like the road there is still long and complicated.
Sources: Seoul Economic Daily, via DigiTimes
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33 Comments on Samsung Said to Produce 300-Layer V-NAND in 2024

#26
GerKNG
I'm happy as long as we can buy larger m.2 drives without paying a lot more per TB beyond 2TB drives.
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#28
Denver
PizdarenkowitchWhy people got hyped for such things if ULTRA-RAM is right now behind the coroner?
quinas.tech/
ultraram.tech/wp-content/uploads/UltraRAM-Brochure.pdf
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Also,why no one talks about Nantero which is a non volatile & super fast memory based on Graphene nano tubes?
www.nantero.com/technology/
To me the promises of these unknown companies are just a distant dream (not to mention fraud), until there is a working product available for purchase;
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#29
lexluthermiester
Count von SchwalbeI want i bits per cell
With you. Manufacturers need to be transparent.

State the type of NAND you use or we don't buy your product. It's that simple Samsung.
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#30
Count von Schwalbe
lexluthermiesterWith you. Manufacturers need to be transparent.

State the type of NAND you use or we don't buy your product. It's that simple Samsung.
As much as I agree with this sentiment, my poor intellect fails to understand how you derived it from my smartass comment about imaginary numbers.
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#31
lexluthermiester
Count von SchwalbeAs much as I agree with this sentiment, my poor intellect fails to understand how you derived it from my smartass comment about imaginary numbers.
Oh! I thought that's what you were implying. That is how it seemed with the way you made that statement. Maybe I was overthinking it?
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#32
Count von Schwalbe
lexluthermiesterOh! I thought that's what you were implying. That is how it seemed with the way you made that statement. Maybe I was overthinking it?
I was just one-upping Wirko with his e bits per cell with something even less possible.

You compliment me with your misunderstanding.
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#33
lexluthermiester
Count von SchwalbeYou compliment me with your misunderstanding.
You're welcome? :laugh:
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