Monday, September 30th 2024

AMD X870E and X870 Motherboards Have Been Released, Prices Start at $199 Up To $699

Major AMD partners like ASUS, ASRock, GIGABYTE, and MSI have unveiled their latest AMD AM5 motherboards featuring the X870E and X870 chipsets. The new motherboards offer broad compatibility, supporting not only the latest AMD Ryzen 9000 series, but also the Ryzen 8000 and 7000 CPUs. These boards are aimed at high-end and enthusiast users, sporting optimized VRM designs and enhanced I/O capabilities, including WiFi 7 and USB 4 support.

The motherboards are all in ATX format; however, mATX/ITX models should follow later this year. They all support DDR5-5600 MT/s memory speeds natively, with some models supporting over 8000 MT/s memory speeds. In terms of chipset, the X870E series uses two Promontory 21 dies with support for USB 4 and Gen 5 GPU/SSD (24x Gen 5 CPU Lanes, 8x Gen 4 + 12x Gen 3 PCH Lanes). The X870 will use just one of the dies, retaining the Gen 5 lanes, however the PCH Lanes will be limited to 4x Gen 4 + 8x Gen 3.
From the current batch of motherboards, if we look at prices from Newegg US, the cheapest is the ASRock X870 PRO RS listed at $199.99, while at the other end we have the ASUS ROG Crosshair X870E HERO available for $699.99, for which we already published our extensive review here. Stay tuned for more X870E/X870 motherboard reviews in the coming days. Our team has just grown with the addition of a new hardware reviewer.

ASUS Motherboards
  • ASUS PRIME X870-P WIFI - $249.99
    ASUS TUF Gaming X870-PLUS WIFI - $309.99
    ASUS ROG STRIX X870-A Gaming WIFI - $369.99
    ASUS ProArt X870E-Creator WIFI - $479.99
    ASUS ROG STRIX X870E Gaming WIFI - $499.99
    ASUS ROG Crosshair X870E HERO - $699.99
ASRock Motherboards
  • ASRock X870 PRO RS - $199.99
    ASRock X870 PRO RS WIFI - $209.99
    ASRock X870 Steel Legend WIFI - $259.99
    ASRock X870 RIPTIDE WIFE - $279.99
    ASRock X870E NOVA WIFI - $349.99
    ASRock X870E Taichi LITE - $399.99
    ASRock X870E Taichi - $449.99
GIGABYTE Motherboards
  • GIGABYTE X870 Gaming WIFI6 - $219.99
    GIGABYTE X870 Eagle WIFI7 - $229.99
    GIGABYTE X870 Gaming X WIFI7 - $249.99
    GIGABYTE X870 AORUS ELITE WIFI7 - $289.99
    GIGABYTE X870 AORUS ELITE WIFI7 ICE - $289.99
    GIGABYTE X870E AORUS ELITE WIFI7 - $319.99
    GIGABYTE X870E AORUS PRO - $359.99
    GIGABYTE X870E AORUS PRO ICE - $359.99
    GIGABYTE X870E AORUS Master - $499.99
MSI Motherboards
  • MSI PRO X870-P WIFI - $239.99
    MSI MAG X870 Tomahawk WIFI - $299.99
    MSI MPG X870E Carbon WIFI - $499.99
AMD's B850 and B840 motherboards are rumored to be released in early 2025, likely during the CES 2025 event.
Sources: Videocardz, Wccftech
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62 Comments on AMD X870E and X870 Motherboards Have Been Released, Prices Start at $199 Up To $699

#26
rv8000
Super Firm TofuI understand all of the niche applications of USB4/TB. My point was why are we making these ports mandatory and giving up PCIe slots or NVMe drives for it?

Additional or optional, sure.



This is the reply I was looking for. Please consider my question answered.

:lovetpu:
Who is running 5 nvme drives at the same time? There are a handful of boards that will do 1x pcie 5.0 4x and then 2x pcie 4.0 4x nvme drives without any interruption to the pcie 16x GPU slot.

Why are people so mad about having options and or boards they don’t have to purchase?

X670/B650 will drop in price, if you don’t need connectivity you have a cheaper buy in to the platform. I guess be happy AMD isn’t dumping socket support left and right like intel.

Sheesh…

If there’s anything to be justifiably angry about, it’s the damn pricing on all of tech the last 3-4 years, these boards included.
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#27
arbiter
To me that 2nd picture where they compare their board to intel boards that are 2 years old now when intel is about to release new stuff kinda seems dumb. better just comparing it their own old stuff.
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#28
A Computer Guy
For a long term socket it was shortsighted not to have enough PCIe lanes for AIC slots or simply allow more choices to share those plentiful x4 NVMe's with AIC's slots to be able to squeeze out an x8 and x4 for use with expansion cards. Instead NVMe slots going to waste :shadedshu:
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#29
Sarajiel
rv8000Who is running 5 nvme drives at the same time? There are a handful of boards that will do 1x pcie 5.0 4x and then 2x pcie 4.0 4x nvme drives without any interruption to the pcie 16x GPU slot.
I do.
My primary B650E Aorus Master system has 6x internal M.2s, the secondary B650E Aorus Master system only runs 5x of them. Admittedly, it’s not your typical gamer use-case, but I doubt that I'm the only one who has such or similar setups.
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#30
Ahhzz
DavenMy post was a very, very clear answer.
your post was TROLLING. Stop it.
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#31
GamerGuy
So, basically the X870 is effectively a B850 while the X870E is the true X870? Are there any B850 mobos?
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#32
FreedomEclipse
~Technological Technocrat~
thegnomeOverpriced refresh..
You mean Early Adopter's TAX.

Price will drop after a month or two.
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#33
Daven
Ahhzzyour post was TROLLING. Stop it.
I see it the opposite way. Someone asking why we need more of something in the tech world is trolling. Do YOU really think for the rest of eternity we should not move past USB3? It’s a silly question to ask what USB4 is used for because it’s the same question anyone can ask for EVERY single port upgrade since the first PC ports were created/invented.
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#34
mechtech
So chipsets are in series with last one having 2 nvme slots................so if you have 2 nvmes plugged in could they transfer full speeds to cpu nvme or are they bottlenecked by the everything else sharing the lanes?


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#35
T_Zel
rv8000Who is running 5 nvme drives at the same time? There are a handful of boards that will do 1x pcie 5.0 4x and then 2x pcie 4.0 4x nvme drives without any interruption to the pcie 16x GPU slot.

Why are people so mad about having options and or boards they don’t have to purchase?

X670/B650 will drop in price, if you don’t need connectivity you have a cheaper buy in to the platform. I guess be happy AMD isn’t dumping socket support left and right like intel.

Sheesh…

If there’s anything to be justifiably angry about, it’s the damn pricing on all of tech the last 3-4 years, these boards included.
X670/B650 are probably going to drop in price, but if so that's only going to last until the existing stock is gone. With X870/E using the same actual silicon as those older chipsets, you can bet that they aren't going to be directing that same silicon to new production runs of the older, cheaper boards. It will all go into the 800 series boards, 600 series will be discontinued and then you have no option.
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#36
eidairaman1
The Exiled Airman
I might have to go Threadripper/Epyc for pcie slots, not a fan of m.2.
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#37
Sarajiel
mechtechSo chipsets are in series with last one having 2 nvme slots................so if you have 2 nvmes plugged in could they transfer full speeds to cpu nvme or are they bottlenecked by the everything else sharing the lanes?
They are bottlenecked by reality.
Basically, no X870E is set up like that slide you linked. Most/all (?) boards that were released so far, drop the 2nd NVMe slot from the CPU, and connect the USB4 controller instead. To compensate for that loss, many boards bifurcate the PCIe x16 slot in some way or other. :banghead:
I assume, it comes down to trace lengths and the fact that most layouts place the second chipset near the bottom PCIe slots.
T_ZelX670/B650 are probably going to drop in price, but if so that's only going to last until the existing stock is gone.
That already happened around June where I live. Personally, I bought three additional AM5 boards, discounted by €50 to €80 each compared to the prices at the beginning of the year. :cool: If you want a specific model, you might already be too late.
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#38
AusWolf
I just checked Scan UK. There seems to be no X870 or X870E motherboards in m-ATX size. A paper launch, perhaps?
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#39
Sarajiel
AusWolfThere seems to be no X870 or X870E motherboards in m-ATX size.
There weren't many B650E or X670E µATX boards either. ;) And these are either server boards with BMC in the case of B650E, or the Crosshair X670E Gene which was an XOC board that cost as much as the Hero. There is basically not enough space to utilize two chipsets in most cases.

Maybe we see another Gene, but I wouldn't hold my breath for many X870 or X870 µATX boards. However, mini-ITX gets some expensive love from Asus in the form of the ASUS ROG Strix X870-I Gaming WIFI.
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#40
Minus Infinity
Super Firm TofuI'm still trying to understand why everyone wants USB4.

What are people waiting to connect to these mandatory ports?
Buy and Intel Z890 and you get TB4 and hence usb-4 support.
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#41
AusWolf
SarajielThere weren't many B650E or X670E µATX boards either. ;) And these are either server boards with BMC in the case of B650E, or the Crosshair X670E Gene which was an XOC board that cost as much as the Hero. There is basically not enough space to utilize two chipsets in most cases.

Maybe we see another Gene, but I wouldn't hold my breath for many X870 or X870 µATX boards. However, mini-ITX gets some expensive love from Asus in the form of the ASUS ROG Strix X870-I Gaming WIFI.
Yeah, but there's lots of decent B650 m-ATX options. The ROG Strix line is way overpriced, imo.

Oh well, not that I need PCI-e 5.0 anyway. :ohwell:
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#42
Launcestonian
DavenI'm still trying to figure out why everyone wants USB3. For that matter, I also wonder about USB2 and USB1. And quick frankly why USB at all when we had PS/2, RS232 and parallel. Even those were overboard to just a 5-pin DIN. Who needs a mouse with all those keyboard short-cuts?
You make a good point, for yrs already now in real world usage, USB3 is still very far from being saturated with data transfers. All this kerfuffle with USB standards is down right annoying & just "theoretical speeds" are nothing but marketing BS for gullible consumers. Tech industry has to "innovate" (which is a joke in itself) to keep selling stuff with BIG NUMBERS designed to sell something.
USB4..... :roll:

Back to the original article though, I want to see real world benchmarks & stress testing with RAM overclocks in particular. Sources I've seen suggest improved memory tracers for X870E boards.
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#43
A&P211
DavenI'm still trying to figure out why everyone wants USB3. For that matter, I also wonder about USB2 and USB1. And quick frankly why USB at all when we had PS/2, RS232 and parallel. Even those were overboard to just a 5-pin DIN. Who needs a mouse with all those keyboard short-cuts?
The keyboard is like real life, I wanted a short cut to my ex-girl friend, but someone else already found that shortcut. From that day, I dont want anymore shortcuts, I want the real keystroke.

*dont mind me, I'm high
TomWengWhere is MSI X870E Godlike?
Maybe you should pray for it, the god(s) will surely answer.
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#44
yfn_ratchet
Super Firm TofuI'm still trying to understand why everyone wants USB4.

What are people waiting to connect to these mandatory ports?
Main use cases? Direct-attach storage enclosures and VR headsets. Both benefit from higher throughput and support for higher power delivery, making the idea of a unified cable actually feasible for once as opposed to having awkward breakout boxes or multiple cables. The limiting factor at this point is probably distance, since you still need active cables to get a reach beyond maybe 2m.
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#45
R-T-B
DavenI see it the opposite way. Someone asking why we need more of something in the tech world is trolling.
Even if that was true, what you did was still trolling. Two trolls don't make your troll justified.
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#46
AusWolf
yfn_ratchetMain use cases? Direct-attach storage enclosures and VR headsets. Both benefit from higher throughput and support for higher power delivery, making the idea of a unified cable actually feasible for once as opposed to having awkward breakout boxes or multiple cables. The limiting factor at this point is probably distance, since you still need active cables to get a reach beyond maybe 2m.
Yep. Personally, I have no use for USB 4 or PCI-e 5.0 because I don't have any device that could use the higher speed and power, but I don't mock those who do.
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#47
_roman_
LauncestonianYou make a good point, for yrs already now in real world usage, USB3 is still very far from being saturated with data transfers.
I disagree.

Cheap WD BLUE NVME in a 10gbps USB3 case on a USB 3 port is utilised a lot here while i do backups or when i boot from that drive.
I overpaid in summer 2023 for that backup drive.
I would have gone for a 20gbps nvme usb case when the price would have been more affordable. My mainboard has only one or two 20gbps USB 3 ports. The 20gbps usb nvme cases are still too expensive.
I create hole offline system images which are encrypted in around 6 minutes. Many years I had via 5gbps USB SATA SSD backup times with similar sizes which took me over 25 minutes. It's my user data and my system which i compile over 1400 packages from source code. Real life szenario different file systems, small and smallest files. There was a noticeable big improvement changing from usb 3 SATA SSD to usb 3 NVME SSD. I'm not sure if 20gbps usb3 case would make any sense. My desktop system noticeable hangs in daily use with higher compression and encryption on the file system (low end ryzen 7600X - 64GiB RAM - KC3000 2TB NVME drive as source).
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#48
Readlight
Why TUF, Tomahawk 40€ more than Riptide?
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#49
DaemonForce
Aaaaand let me guess on the Asus side. The TUF is once again the only one that makes perfect sense at its price point while the Strix-I is at least double price from the territory where the pricing comes unglued from reality?
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#50
Launcestonian
_roman_I disagree.

Cheap WD BLUE NVME in a 10gbps USB3 case on a USB 3 port is utilised a lot here while i do backups or when i boot from that drive.
I overpaid in summer 2023 for that backup drive.
I would have gone for a 20gbps nvme usb case when the price would have been more affordable. My mainboard has only one or two 20gbps USB 3 ports. The 20gbps usb nvme cases are still too expensive.
I create hole offline system images which are encrypted in around 6 minutes. Many years I had via 5gbps USB SATA SSD backup times with similar sizes which took me over 25 minutes. It's my user data and my system which i compile over 1400 packages from source code. Real life szenario different file systems, small and smallest files. There was a noticeable big improvement changing from usb 3 SATA SSD to usb 3 NVME SSD. I'm not sure if 20gbps usb3 case would make any sense. My desktop system noticeable hangs in daily use with higher compression and encryption on the file system (low end ryzen 7600X - 64GiB RAM - KC3000 2TB NVME drive as source).
But how is 10Gbps the USB3 theoretical top speed? it is only 5Gbps If your referring to .1 or .2 versions of it, then its more of course.
I decompress a file from my USB3 64GB Corsair flash drive to my PCIe 4.0 M.2 drive & a 3Gb compressed file peaks out at a mere 200Mb/s at it's maximum speed according to windows 11 the whole time & yes all drivers & OS are up to date... . That's not even half the speed of UBS2 spec!
The point of my post is that is just does not translate into real world daily usage those super speeds up to 5Gb/s.. never happens. Then you'll get explanations that maybe its the USB cord your using or the flash drive is faulty or some other rubbish far from reality excuse. No, it is what it is as far as I'm concerned, marketing big talk to get consumers parting with their money for the next higher number generational upgrade.
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