Monday, August 18th 2025

Intel "Bartlett Lake-S" Steppings Suggest Third Rebrand of "Raptor Lake" as "Bartlett Lake Hybrid"

"Bartlett Lake-S" is an interesting chip by Intel, given that its "Nova Lake-S" desktop processors with large L3 caches won't arrive before mid/late 2026. The chip is built on the idea that the "Raptor Cove" P-core offers gaming performance comparable or better to the "Lion Cove" P-cores implemented on "Arrow Lake-S." Intel figured that for a monolithic silicon with a similar die-size of "Raptor Lake-S," which has 8 P-cores and 4 E-core clusters, it could design a silicon with 12 P-cores for the same number of ring-stops, sharing the same 36 MB of L3 cache. A recent post on Twitter by Jaykihn highlights the stepping of this silicon as A0, but there's more to the story—apparently Intel will recycle its older "Raptor Lake" and "Alder Lake" silicon within "Bartlett Lake" generation, and refer to them as "Bartlett Lake Hybrid."

This "Bartlett Lake Hybrid" line of processors will reuse B0, C0, and H0 chips. The B0 chip is the original "Raptor Lake-S," which comes with an 8P+16E core-configuration, 36 MB of L3 cache, 2 MB of L2 cache per P-core, and 4 MB of L2 cache per E-core cluster. The C0 silicon is derived from "Alder Lake-S," with an 8P+8E config that has 1.25 MB of L2 cache per P-core and 2 MB of L2 cache per E-core cluster, with 30 MB of L3 cache. The H0 silicon originally drove the lower half of the 12th Gen Core family, it has 6 P-cores, each with 1.25 MB of L2 cache, no E-core clusters, and 18 MB of L3 cache.
Intel will not market "Bartlett Lake-S" as the 15th Gen Core series, but switch to its new nomenclature under the Core 2-series, but without the "Ultra" brand extension, denoting the lack of an on-die NPU. Unfortunately, leaked marketing material by Intel points to the chip being primarily targeted at the OEM and embedded markets, and not DIY retail, in other words, there are no signs yet of a retail desktop chip that you can pop into a Socket LGA1700 rig.

"Bartlett Lake-S" A0 will be the desktop processor with the highest P-core count from Intel, and will also be the processor with the highest P-cores within a single compute complex (i.e. sharing an L3 cache), across brands, because the 12-core and 16-core AMD Ryzen desktop processors have their cores split between two complexes, in the form of two CCDs. When threads migrate between CCDs, their working data must be transferred via the I/O die. If the data still resides in the source CCD's cache, it is duplicated into the destination CCD's L3, otherwise, it must be fetched from DRAM.
Sources: Jaykihn (Twitter), VideoCardz
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26 Comments on Intel "Bartlett Lake-S" Steppings Suggest Third Rebrand of "Raptor Lake" as "Bartlett Lake Hybrid"

#2
Outback Bronze
"12 P-cores for the same number of ring-stops, sharing the same 36 MB of L3 cache"

Will be interesting if this translates to any meaningful difference in FPS compared to 8p cores @ 1080p/1440p.
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#3
Onasi
Just dumping something interesting like that into OEM channels seems a bit of a waste, to be honest. But we’ll see.
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#4
ncrs
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For threads to migrate between the cores of the two CCDs, they need to make a round-trip to the DRAM unless there is duplication of data between the two L3 caches.
This kind of transfer (which should be prevented as much as possible by a competent scheduler) doesn't go via DRAM, but using the Scalable Data Fabric which is part of the Infinity Fabric on IOD.

As for Bartlett Lake-S it's clearly a stopgap for some markets due to limited TSMC capacity. I'm skeptical about it becoming a true mainstream product.
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#5
bgx
Bartlet lake hybrid as OEM only is perfectly fine, asyou can find the same chip in retail under a different name.

We can hope to see Bartlet Lake - S in the retail market though, as it would be the only chip to make sense to buy as DIY.

Now, will it be better than RPL for gaming? I have no idea. Let's see (and have TPU bench it).
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#6
btarunr
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ncrsThis kind of transfer (which should be prevented as much as possible by a competent scheduler) doesn't go via DRAM, but using the Scalable Data Fabric which is part of the Infinity Fabric on IOD.
Rewrote that sentence for clarity.
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#7
SL2
ncrsI'm skeptical about it becoming a true mainstream product.
Yup, and I'm not really sure how to interpret this, but it doesn't look like they're comparing to the 14900K, and why should they if it isn't made for retail.

- Hz is unknown.
- Locked/unlocked is unknown, but I wouldn't hold my breath here if non-retail.
- Same L3, despite 50 % more cores, but that's not much of a problem for Raptor in games.

All these unknowns seems to make it a wet dream for some.

"If we don't know how good it is, I bet it must be the best we've ever seen!" /s
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#8
mikesg
SMT is enabled in Raptor Cove right?
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#9
kondamin
Are they still going on about these?
It should have launched Last year when their stock was tanking
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#10
dgianstefani
TPU Proofreader
Outback Bronze"12 P-cores for the same number of ring-stops, sharing the same 36 MB of L3 cache"

Will be interesting if this translates to any meaningful difference in FPS compared to 8p cores @ 1080p/1440p.
Same L3 is a shame.
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#11
Zazigalka
Either give us a 12 core or don't even bother
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#12
ixi
Better something that nothing. Intel, you must share price to go up!

Where are B770 and better, next generation of GPU - le.go!
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#13
Tomorrow
Outback Bronze"12 P-cores for the same number of ring-stops, sharing the same 36 MB of L3 cache"

Will be interesting if this translates to any meaningful difference in FPS compared to 8p cores @ 1080p/1440p.
It wont and if the clock speed ends up being lower than 14th gen it will actually lose to 8p-core designs.
Just the fact that L3 is not increased rules out any performance increase in most games.

Very few games use more than 8 cores extensively so that 12 core would provide a meaningful benefit. Not to mention it would by design have to be at 1080p/1440p where the game is more CPU limited.

The only benefit can see from a pure 12p/0e core design are applications that are latency sensitive, but require more than 8 cores and where core hopping to e-cores induces a performance penalty. Im sure these exist, but they're edge cases and hence the likely OEM launch.
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#14
Dr. Dro
mikesgSMT is enabled in Raptor Cove right?
Yes, although in my opinion, it's rather wise to disable SMT on 13th/14th Gen CPUs. Having SMT on increases temps by 30°C on my i9-13900KS with no significantly discernable performance gains unless benchmarking.

I'm very interested in the 12-core Bartlett, even if it's not entirely new tech. It'll go great on my Apex Encore.
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#15
dgianstefani
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Dr. DroYes, although in my opinion, it's rather wise to disable SMT on 13th/14th Gen CPUs. Having SMT on increases temps by 30°C on my i9-13900KS with no significantly discernable performance gains unless benchmarking.

I'm very interested in the 12-core Bartlett, even if it's not entirely new tech. It'll go great on my Apex Encore.
Disabling HT also removes the need for the software based security mitigations, which improves per core performance slightly.
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#16
ncrs
dgianstefaniDisabling HT also removes the need for the software based security mitigations, which improves per core performance slightly.
And which mitigation is that?
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#17
RandallFlagg
bgxBartlet lake hybrid as OEM only is perfectly fine, asyou can find the same chip in retail under a different name.

We can hope to see Bartlet Lake - S in the retail market though, as it would be the only chip to make sense to buy as DIY.

Now, will it be better than RPL for gaming? I have no idea. Let's see (and have TPU bench it).
I would have gone to 14700K if it wasn't for the rumors of a 12 P-core Bartlett Lake chip.

Such a chip would be a good sendoff for the era of monolithic dies.

The newer tile designs are not done for performance. They are primarily cost efficiency designs to counter the increasing expense of newer nodes, and secondarily a way to scale up to very high core counts for the server space.

The X3D AMD lines undo this cost efficiency to restore performance to a tiled design, while their 'halo' effect draws users into buying AMD non-X3D chips which are not as performant as the monolithic Intel chips.
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#18
THU31
This was rumored so long ago, seems kind of pointless to release it now.

Zen 6 will have 12 cores in a single chiplet and it will destroy these chips in terms of IPC and efficiency. Intel needs to focus on new stuff, not on a platform from 2021.
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#19
AusWolf
So it's not a separate design, just a cut-down RPL. Shame.
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#20
Dr. Dro
AusWolfSo it's not a separate design, just a cut-down RPL. Shame.
It's not cut-down, it's pretty much exactly the same without changes. "BTL-S Hybrid" has been available on the embedded segment for almost a year by now. The 5.6 GHz SKU alluded to in the OP is very similar to the Core 7 251E processor, which is very similar to the i9-13900K in clocks (-200MHz P, +100MHz E like the 14th Gen models)

That said, first time I've seen the purported 12P+0E model referred to as "A0" silicon, maybe it'll materialize, maybe it won't.
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#21
AusWolf
Dr. DroThat said, first time I've seen the purported 12P+0E model referred to as "A0" silicon, maybe it'll materialize, maybe it won't.
That's exactly the silicon that I was excited about. Rumours have been circulating almost since the Alder Lake launch, so I'm a bit skeptical at this point.
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#22
anubis44
If it provides even a 10-15% boost to games and/or trans-coding applications like Handbrake, and it's priced reasonably, I'll buy it to upgrade my wife's 12700K rig. And if it beats my own 9700X system in either games or productivity, I'll take that machine back from my wife, and let her have the 9700X system. :)
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#23
anubis44
ZazigalkaEither give us a 12 core or don't even bother
It appears to be a 12 core.
THU31This was rumored so long ago, seems kind of pointless to release it now.

Zen 6 will have 12 cores in a single chiplet and it will destroy these chips in terms of IPC and efficiency. Intel needs to focus on new stuff, not on a platform from 2021.
If Intel releases a good enough CPU to encourage those with LGA 1700 mobos to do a drop-in upgrade, that's a significant potential source of additional revenue. Not to mention it shows some customer love, and that goes a long way. Ask AMD CPU users about being able to drop in a more powerful CPU into a 2 or 3 year old mobo. I have a Ryzen 7 9700X as my main rig, but my previous rig, a 12700K with DDR5, is currently my wife's computer. If the performance improvement is sufficient, I might just buy this Bartlett Lake-S cpu, upgrade my wife's rig, and take it back from her. :)
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#24
tommo1982
One needs a degree in hardware naming to keep up with how Intel and AMD name their products.
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#25
ejolson
I can understand E cores in a battery-powered device to save energy and for running microservices in the cloud where slow energy-efficient cores encourage people to rent more to get the job done.

Although an all-P-core desktop processor is not groundbreaking, in my opinion it's also not stupid.

For gaming and desktop use the power difference between an E and P core is minimal compared to how much electricity a GPU uses. The complexity of writing software that efficiently makes use of P and E cores at the same time is impossible relative to how difficult it is just to make use of many identical cores. Even if the scheduler avoids the E cores, they still take a slot in the ring bus.

What's not to like about getting rid of all those E cores on the desktop?
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