Prima.VeraThis reminds me of Everything Everywhere All at Once wining the Oscars... Probably the worst movie in the history of cinema.
This game, sorry to say it, but it so overrated, is beyond common sense and comprehension. I personally couldn't wait to finish it, to be done with it, but the ending was even worst than the entire weird game.. like w.t.f.
Btw, the Kojima's walking simulator how many awards did it get? :laugh::laugh::laugh:

Prima.VeraThis reminds me of Everything Everywhere All at Once wining the Oscars... Probably the worst movie in the history of cinema.
This game, sorry to say it, but it so overrated, is beyond common sense and comprehension. I personally couldn't wait to finish it, to be done with it, but the ending was even worst than the entire weird game.. like w.t.f.
Btw, the Kojima's walking simulator how many awards did it get? :laugh::laugh::laugh:

Prima.VeraThis reminds me of Everything Everywhere All at Once wining the Oscars... Probably the worst movie in the history of cinema.
This game, sorry to say it, but it so overrated, is beyond common sense and comprehension. I personally couldn't wait to finish it, to be done with it, but the ending was even worst than the entire weird game.. like w.t.f.
Btw, the Kojima's walking simulator how many awards did it get? :laugh::laugh::laugh:

GeoffreyAFor my part, I found it to be deeply moving and meaningful; it has taken its place among my all-time favourites. The world was beautiful, as representing a broken, tattered existence; and what more needs to be said of the music, combining classical, piano, opera, and other threads to fit the tragedy of that world perfectly? What one takes away is not the imperfect, exhilarating combat; rather, it is the tone, the sense of loss and tragedy, and the image of a broken world that is, in a way, not far off from our own. One never forgets these characters, as much as one can never forget Minsc and Boo, Imoen and Jaheira, or the Nameless One's companions, and that is an achievement of art.

ApocalypseeIf it's not for the dumb QTE combat I would rate this game better. I noticed people sad during the first part of it but I didn't, I just confused about the whole thing and wanted to know why. Once I get to know why it just falls flat till the end, Act 3 just feels weird from what the two act brings. What you say is true, love the world build, environment, the music is top notch but there is some musical cue that is fell out of place for such outstanding piece that ticks me off.

ChomiqI have to give it a try at some point.

L'Eliminateursame, it does not combine genres that i care about, i'm not interested in QTE or "dodgers" i'm more on the "stand still and duke it out" or "i won before the battle even begun overwhelmingly", i might try to find some trainer or cheat codes for this game

Vayra86Verified on Deck? I wonder what FPS you'll get lol

But damn that might be a great place for a replay.

Vayra86It is indeed very different and crosses boundaries lots of gamers never saw combined - and merges them into solid execution. That's rare, unique, and worthy of GOTY, even if its not up your alley.

The soulslike dodge in what is otherwise a pretty passive rpg battler for example. But if you take a step back, everything in this game is odd, and all the rules of what a game is supposed to be ordered like are broken.

Examples
- There is no linear progression; pictos are designed to escape that entirely and instead 'think in exponential increases'. Most games avoid that and carefully control linear scaling - especially RPGs.

Vayra86- You need zero RPG progression to progress. A good dodger is just as effective in completing the game (and probably better at Simon...) than the number crunching player. But both can win. If you lack both qualities/preferences in your gaming, this game is not for you, but if you have either one... this game is a must play.

evernessinceExponential scaling isn't used in many RPGs because it was found to quickly break the game balance and reduce viable build diversity. It typically results in a massive difference in output from one build to another and causes large spikes in difficulty. It's one of the most criticized parts of E33. I'm actually playing another RPG right now that has exponential scaling and it has the same issues. I'm trying to train other classes or jobs but I can't because my damage output goes from 3 - 15 trillion to a few million thanks to exponential nonsense.



The parry / dodge is also problematic as well. You can make the entire point of all the game's other mechanics pointless if you master that one thing. On the flipside, for others it feels constantly frustrating if they suck at it. This is also a common criticism of the game and why people note they get bored with it. E33 isn't the first turn based RPG to implement QTEs into a turn based system and it's by far not the best version of it. The jRPGs of the past that did it (and newer ones like Sea of Stars) typically have different mechanics for different attacks, not all attacks would have one, and it would be more of a bonus than entirely dodging or parrying. I've never seen one to just dodge all damage though, that's just bad game design. It's not really an RPG is player skill is the primary determining factor in success and you can absolutely plow through the game irregardless of character stats and loadout with said mechanics.

It's a great game but it should have not won best RPG. Best Debut Indie and Best Indie were also questionable, given the game's funding and size.

Prima.VeraCommon man, the fighting system was atrocious. As a one guy above said, I had to use a trainer to get pass that. A game should be entertaining not overly frustrating for just timing it hitting the button! WTF is this shmit?? The story was completely bonkers also, made absolutely no sense, but most importantly, no logic at all. I get it, it's a bonkers fantasy dreamed by a deranged mind or a psychopath, but still...
Again, Oscars déjà vu with that Everything Everywhere All at Once movie abomination...

Prima.VeraCommon man, the fighting system was atrocious. As a one guy above said, I had to use a trainer to get pass that. A game should be entertaining not overly frustrating for just timing it hitting the button! WTF is this shmit?? The story was completely bonkers also, made absolutely no sense, but most importantly, no logic at all. I get it, it's a bonkers fantasy dreamed by a deranged mind or a psychopath, but still...
Again, Oscars déjà vu with that Everything Everywhere All at Once movie abomination...

evernessinceExponential scaling isn't used in many RPGs because it was found to quickly break the game balance and reduce viable build diversity. It typically results in a massive difference in output from one build to another and causes large spikes in difficulty. It's one of the most criticized parts of E33. I'm actually playing another RPG right now that has exponential scaling and it has the same issues. I'm trying to train other classes or jobs but I can't because my damage output goes from 3 - 15 trillion to a few million thanks to exponential nonsense.



The parry / dodge is also problematic as well. You can make the entire point of all the game's other mechanics pointless if you master that one thing. On the flipside, for others it feels constantly frustrating if they suck at it. This is also a common criticism of the game and why people note they get bored with it. E33 isn't the first turn based RPG to implement QTEs into a turn based system and it's by far not the best version of it. The jRPGs of the past that did it (and newer ones like Sea of Stars) typically have different mechanics for different attacks, not all attacks would have one, and it would be more of a bonus than entirely dodging or parrying. I've never seen one to just dodge all damage though, that's just bad game design. It's not really an RPG is player skill is the primary determining factor in success and you can absolutely plow through the game irregardless of character stats and loadout with said mechanics.

It's a great game but it should have not won best RPG. Best Debut Indie and Best Indie were also questionable, given the game's funding and size.

"This year I think we’re safe. I think Expedition 33," he said. "It’s exceptional and broadly palatable. Whereas we’re on that knife’s edge, where it appeals to some and infuriates others."

Prima.VeraCommon man, the fighting system was atrocious. As a one guy above said, I had to use a trainer to get pass that. A game should be entertaining not overly frustrating for just timing it hitting the button! WTF is this shmit?? The story was completely bonkers also, made absolutely no sense, but most importantly, no logic at all. I get it, it's a bonkers fantasy dreamed by a deranged mind or a psychopath, but still...
Again, Oscars déjà vu with that Everything Everywhere All at Once movie abomination...

dyonoctisI feel like you just don't like stories that rely on alternate/simulated realities tbh. The story made perfect sense if you paid attention to it. The fact that you think that the painting was imagined by a psychopath tells me that you did not pay attention to the story. And you did not in fact got it.

Spoiler: Major plot spoilers

First, in the real world of Clair obscure, people have powers. Painters can create a full simulation of a world just by painting said world and its characters. They can decide on the rules, the personality, and the power of people living in the world that they created. And painters can enter those worlds with an avatar that they also paint as they see fit (Cléa told Alicia that she should repaint her throat upon entering the canvas so that she would be able to speak there). The plot also suggests that other creatives, such as writer's have powers, and it seems that in the real world, there's a clash between painters and writers (and Verso died because of that conflict). That canvas was painted by Verso, a kid who made a world that was fun for a child.

After Verso's unfortunate death, the grieving mother painted a copy of the family, of the city, in Verso's canvas because she couldn't cope with his death. She made her fake painted family immortal in the process to not have to witness their death, but still punished painted Alicia for being the reason for Verso's death by not healing her burn wounds, and keeping her mute. Painters can also paint over other people's creations if they are skilled enough. (The real Cléa managed to paint over the fake Cléa so she would endlessly paint Nevrons inside the painted world, while the real Cléa could deal with business in the real world. Alice's avatar was also painted over by Aline upon her entry, hence giving birth to Maëlle).

The painted world became crazy when the real Renoir tried to save his wife, and wanted her to grieve and accept a reality where her son was dead. He was in the process of destroying the canvas because that was the safest way to prevent his wife from escaping reality again. Cléa, the elder sister, created the Nevrons to help Renoir because Aline, the mother, did her best to prevent the destruction of the canvas. But the best that she could do was to slow down the destruction, age by age. Painters use resources to paint and give life to things, people being killed by nevrons prevented those resources from returning to the painters, hence gradually weakening Aline.

The ending is basically questioning whether or not the painted world deserves to be treated with the same importance as the real world because its inhabitants have agency, and you as the player spendt two-thirds of the game with them, witnessing people doing their best to survive, to live another year.

The painted world became "bonkers" because two people fought (one who paints death, the other who paints life), and altered its nature, not because it was dreamed by a deranged mind, or a psychopath. The game tells you several times that the world as you experience it at the time of the events isn't in its normal state. That game is a bit like the first Metroid Prime in the sense that the whole story isn't just served on a platter to you; there are fragments that you will need to put together by exploring the world and doing side quests.