The latest update from notable leaker, Kepler_L2, "who is often wrong"

That retro style PS5 is all I can pay attention to. It’s so cool…

That would matter much more if the prices were 500$ and 700$. At 1600$ vs 1800$ on the other hand...

We shall see if the prices are indeed that high.

If consoles are going to be four figures, what is the point of subsidizing at that point? Like, would sales actually significantly improve going from say $1,500 down to $1,300? I don't really think so.

All the more need for a Series S like console this generation, to get down into the $600 price point. Half the RAM, smaller SoC. Can't really do much about costs for storage though. If there isn't a Series S like console from either MS or Sony, I imagine that the current generation is going to stay around for a long time to keep the lower price points filled. MS got a freebie with FSR4.1, but Sony put a little time into making QSSR happening. Will help games run on that system and not look as terrible when more games start being rendered internally at 576p to 720Pp as development shifts to next generation.

For the current generation to stick around longer and sell, they would need to make them appeal again. Coming out with a refresh could help that. Current console sizes could be cut in half.

At $1,500 I am interested in seeing what MS and Sony do to make their systems a little unique. Like MS split memory system. Sony's storage controller, SoC power delivery/clocks, and adding 2GB of RAM for the OS on the Pro model. I know we won't but it sure would be sweet to see a small block of HBM memory or one of them opting for a large 3D cache. With how beneficial 3D cache has been for gaming, it is a little surprising to not see that in any of the rumors. Nor the large cache that AMD started implementing with RDNA2.

What's the point of making a new console? Is the PS5 not capable of running the latest videogames? It's still a 10 TFlops machine, capable of running modern games at a decent resolution and frame rate. There's no need to have an rtx4080 level of performance to run AAA slop.

Current status of console manufacturers:

Microsoft – They need to restore their standing with consumers and will likely need to price their console lower than that of their direct technological competitor.
Sony – They may no longer offer subsidies to offset production costs, driven by extreme self-confidence stemming from their strong brand equity.

Potential pricing (in US dollars) for the industry’s 10th-generation consoles:

A) If both launch in late 2027:
Xbox Helix: $999
PS6: $1,499

B) If both launch in late 2028:
Xbox Helix: $1,199*
PS6: $1,799*
(*assuming a 20% escalation in the semiconductor crisis over the course of 12 months)

Note: Should the crisis worsen—potentially due to increased pressure from AI, a scenario that cannot be ruled out—Microsoft and Sony might ultimately adopt a strategy of allowing retailers to set their own prices, rather than adhering to a fixed retail price. This would help both companies manage consumer perception, as the four-digit price tags could then be framed as "decisions made by the retailers, not the brand itself." This would push the price of the "Xbox Helix" to over 1,500 USD and the PS6 to upwards of 2,000 USD. It is not unrealistic to think this way—in times of crisis, anything is possible, as we already saw during the pandemic, compounded by the surge in GPU mining. Furthermore, building a decent PC today—one capable of handling new releases for more than three years at maximum graphics settings—requires an investment of many thousands of US Dollars.


* Reposted since July 2026

"...we do not intend to sell hardware at significant losses," suggesting that the days of low console prices subsidized by subsequent game sales are behind us.".

And why would they? Companies learned during the pandemic and events since that that people will pay the high prices. It really sucks honestly. If the Xbox can be used as a PC that could be a real plus for them but they have a way of shooting themselves in the foot. Whether it be weird memory configs in the past (mostly Xbone) or all the recent layoffs I wouldn't be confident in any MS studio.

I've also heard that new Xbox can be 2000 euro :D

“we do not intend to sell hardware at significant losses” is rather ambiguous. It neither tells us if they sell consoles for a loss, nor does it define what a “significant” loss is to them.

I do not plan on buying either future console. The prices are outrageous and I will not reward anti-consumer companies. They have lost their way.

BigshrimpI do not plan on buying either future console. The prices are outrageous and I will not reward anti-consumer companies. They have lost their way.

What do you expect them to do? Sell at a massive loss? I don't care, I haven't had a console since the N64. But blame the right people not the most immediate person you think of.

Hopefully, both consoles get released in late 2027. Postponing it to 2028 would mean even steeper prices and less impressive specs at launch. Not that we need a new console generation but since so much effort and resources have already been allocated to it, I can only hope we'll get a better alignment this time around, between ps6 titles and new ps6 capabilities.

The true "next-gen" jump would be if Sony and MS would include an NPU (dedicated or part of the GPU) and exploit it for a better gameplay and user experience and not for pushing "better graphics" or "8K" marketing bullshit nobody needs.

So, $1,100 to $1,800 for a new console. O...M...G...!

I guess people who are dead set against PCs might be potential customers - but they must really hate PCs. Rich parents of young children are the other candidates - besides riot looters and hardware whales that is.

Interesting times.