Wednesday, September 14th 2011

AMD Showcases its First 28 nm GPU

AMD showed off its first graphics processor (GPU) built on TSMC's cutting-edge 28 nanometer silicon fabrication process, the next foundry process standard for discrete GPUs. Bulk manufacturing at TSMC's Fab 15 facility at 28 nm is still taking shape, TSMC will take volume orders only later this year. For the moment, it can run small batches for designers to test their designs. The GPU was running on a mobile platform (pictured below, the red PCB), cooled by a compact copper-channel air cooler, leading us to believe that this is a mainstream segment GPU, if not lower. The demo platform was showcased running DirectX 11 title Dirt 3. Besides that, absolutely no other details were shared, not even a company codename for the GPU board.

Source: TechConnect Magazine
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57 Comments on AMD Showcases its First 28 nm GPU

#1
Steevo
[H]@RD5TUFF said:
I would bet this is going in an APU, hence the tiny heatsink.
I hope so, they promised us space stations and flying cars by now, and if I cant have those I want a tablet that can do what my PC does and includes something like the NIA since carrying a controller is oldschool, and fingers still smudge the touchscreen goodness.
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#2
reverze
trickson said:
I'll get right on it sir . :respect:

I have an opinion and I expressed it what is your problem ? Do you have more news to add about this new chip ? NO ? I thought so . Good Day !
Dont get butthurt if someone pointed out how childish that opinion is ;) .

sorry for the offtopic guys, reading comments these days is very painful.
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#3
trickson
OH, I have such a headache
Ok so AMD is on track on getting there 28nm mobile GPU ready ahead of nVidia ( Or so they say they are ) . There is NOTHING more than THAT ! This is all we get ? WTH ? I mean come on all this PR crap is Pouring out of AMD with no substance . I feel like I am eating Chines food here , I have to keep eating because I am never full ! No wonder they always tell me to leave the ALL YOU CAN EAT BUFFET !
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#4
Casecutter
trickson said:
What news ?
Exactly not much news to glean out, other than a (purportedly) working Southern Island chip that could be a mainstream segment GPU, or lower that gave Dirt3 Dx11 results. So allegedly “it’s Alive”! And who exactly is the guy having a bad hair day, is he an AMD engineer?

I’d like to see it as a "pipe cleaner" SKU, in 4-5 weeks, but that just optimistic me.
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#5
breakfromyou
1) This is a discrete card.
2) What is up with all the hate from AMD. They're making progress and you all just boo them? Too many Intel fanboys from what I see.
3) Try reading the article. It has information you all aren't seeing. Just looking at a picture does NOTHING if you don't understand what you're looking at. Three heatsinks there. Top left is the GPU, top right is the CPU or APU, little black thing in the middle is the FCH. Learn your hardware before talking trash about everything you see, yet don't understand.
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#6
jpierce55
breakfromyou said:
1) This is a discrete card.
2) What is up with all the hate from AMD. They're making progress and you all just boo them? Too many Intel fanboys from what I see.
3) Try reading the article. It has information you all aren't seeing. Just looking at a picture does NOTHING if you don't understand what you're looking at. Three heatsinks there. Top left is the GPU, top right is the CPU or APU, little black thing in the middle is the FCH. Learn your hardware before talking trash about everything you see, yet don't understand.
Learn your hardware, this is a GPU not a CPU. You must be talking about NVIDIA fanboys!:D

I never run anything but ATI (now AMD) g-cards, but I don't really see where this was new worthy or worth posting at all.
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#7
Completely Bonkers
Fake
What's in that box under the TFT?
Why is fraps not running?
Why did they reduce the size of the photo and force "quality=75"?
This photo was taken without flash... you can tell from illumination and incumbent light
It's indoors meaning a shutter speed of 1/60 or 1/125
The mini fans do 2000-3000RPM=30 to 50 turns per second=between a quarter and a full turn of that fan during shutter open time.
But no, fans look "still"
These fans are not moving, or going very very slowly = they are NOT running Dirt 3 on this CPU/GPU setup
Why is the BIOS chip missing?
THERE IS NO HDD/SSD!
Or is the SATA/microSATA (looks like mobile setup) UNDERNEATH? If underneath, I wonder what else might be there!

LIAR, LIAR, PANTS ON FIRE!

After these FAIL PR stunts by AMD over the last two days, I have taken a decision to NOT buy an AMD CPU or an AMD/ATI GPU next time round. Shame, because you just pushed a fence sitter into the Intel and nV camps with all your nonsense!
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#8
trickson
OH, I have such a headache
Completely Bonkers said:
Fake
What's in that box under the TFT?
Why is fraps not running?
Why did they reduce the size of the photo and force "quality=75"?
This photo was taken without flash... you can tell from illumination and incumbent light
It's indoors meaning a shutter speed of 1/60 or 1/125
The mini fans do 2000-3000RPM=30 to 50 turns per second=between a quarter and a full turn of that fan during shutter open time.
But no, fans look "still"
These fans are not moving, or going very very slowly = they are NOT running Dirt 3 on this CPU/GPU setup
Why is the BIOS chip missing?
THERE IS NO HDD/SSD!
Or is the SATA/microSATA (looks like mobile setup) UNDERNEATH? If underneath, I wonder what else might be there!

LIAR, LIAR, PANTS ON FIRE!

After these FAIL PR stunts by AMD over the last two days, I have taken a decision to NOT buy an AMD CPU or an AMD/ATI GPU next time round. Shame, because you just pushed a fence sitter into the Intel and nV camps with all your nonsense!
LOL ! Now I was also wondering why the fans looked like they were not turning . LOL

Man glad you said this if I said all this I would be labeled a FANBOY and run out of the tread ! Much like the other thread on AMD's world record .
What I would like to know is what is it with AMD lately , All this much to do about NOTHING is a real turn off . I will be keeping my eyes open though I am in need of a good laptop and well I do not think this will be out in time much like the BD chip will not be out when I go to buy a new system ! Week AMD really week .
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#9
jpierce55
In all fairness how much of the "news" posted about AMD lately came from them? Not much. Do you see something here indicating a true AMD PR release?
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#10
DannibusX
I don't know if it's a fake. In the photo with the dude in it the fan on the copper heatsink appears to be spinning. Maybe the system was off for the other photos?
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#11
Completely Bonkers
DannibusX said:
... In the photo with the dude in it the fan on the copper heatsink appears to be spinning.
It's hard to tell... so where are the original photos? Why did they shrink them? Then why did they set jpg quality to be so low? (read EXIF and JPG comments with irfanview of those pictures).

It's hard to tell on the GPU, but it is clear on the CPU... now THAT fan isn't moving and therefore is NOT running Dirt 3. Perhaps a screenshot. But I would wager the WHOLE SETUP it fake.

Look, that guy has closed some "non-office" curtains. The TFT is consumer not business. The desk he is sitting at isn't a desk but an IKEA (or similar) sideboard, and not an office desk or a technology workbench. He hasn't even ironed his shirt.
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#12
ensabrenoir
admit it......

Completely Bonkers said:
Fake
What's in that box under the TFT?
Why is fraps not running?
Why did they reduce the size of the photo and force "quality=75"?
This photo was taken without flash... you can tell from illumination and incumbent light
It's indoors meaning a shutter speed of 1/60 or 1/125
The mini fans do 2000-3000RPM=30 to 50 turns per second=between a quarter and a full turn of that fan during shutter open time.
But no, fans look "still"
These fans are not moving, or going very very slowly = they are NOT running Dirt 3 on this CPU/GPU setup
Why is the BIOS chip missing?
THERE IS NO HDD/SSD!
Or is the SATA/microSATA (looks like mobile setup) UNDERNEATH? If underneath, I wonder what else might be there!

LIAR, LIAR, PANTS ON FIRE!

After these FAIL PR stunts by AMD over the last two days, I have taken a decision to NOT buy an AMD CPU or an AMD/ATI GPU next time round. Shame, because you just pushed a fence sitter into the Intel and nV camps with all your nonsense!
After all that gleemed from 1 photo......admit it ......your Batman!!!
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#13
trickson
OH, I have such a headache
Looking at them photos I can see that there is a bios chip missing the desk is NOT an office desk . Them are drapes NOT blinds ( 99.99% of all businesses use them in offices ) , His shirt should have some kind of BADGE on it saying AMD or ATI or some thing like that and yeah Iron it pal !
The laptop screen is not on WHY ? Wouldn't it be a better sell if the screen on the laptop was working as well ? This just seems way FAKED to me ! What a JOKE ! If not is AMD giving out there new stuff to any one ? If so why NOT give me a shot at it then ?
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#14
xBruce88x
Looks like a nice wallpaper of Dirt 3. In that last image it looks like the fans aren't even turning. I know some cameras have this effect with fans while others show em blurred so you know they're spinning so its hard to tell for sure if its working. you don't give us a still image to show how a gpu performs. a 10sec 360p video just to show the system was actually running would be nice.

whether its fast or not, at least they have 28nm parts that are working, if that's really a 28nm gpu

Steevo said:
Looking at the monitor behind him it looks nice, and considering the size of the GPU given the size of the memory chips on the card, and the space needed for traces, the size of the cooler, that looks nice.

Pinky nail size GPU that can run modern games.


My only other question is, whats under the other sink?
the one with the blower is a mobile cpu. the black heatsink is on a chipset.
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#15
eidairaman1
breakfromyou said:
1) This is a discrete card.
2) What is up with all the hate from AMD. They're making progress and you all just boo them? Too many Intel fanboys from what I see.
3) Try reading the article. It has information you all aren't seeing. Just looking at a picture does NOTHING if you don't understand what you're looking at. Three heatsinks there. Top left is the GPU, top right is the CPU or APU, little black thing in the middle is the FCH. Learn your hardware before talking trash about everything you see, yet don't understand.
cuz they NV fans
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#16
X1REME
Completely Bonkers said:
Fake
What's in that box under the TFT?
Why is fraps not running?
Why did they reduce the size of the photo and force "quality=75"?
This photo was taken without flash... you can tell from illumination and incumbent light
It's indoors meaning a shutter speed of 1/60 or 1/125
The mini fans do 2000-3000RPM=30 to 50 turns per second=between a quarter and a full turn of that fan during shutter open time.
But no, fans look "still"
These fans are not moving, or going very very slowly = they are NOT running Dirt 3 on this CPU/GPU setup
Why is the BIOS chip missing?
THERE IS NO HDD/SSD!
Or is the SATA/microSATA (looks like mobile setup) UNDERNEATH? If underneath, I wonder what else might be there!

LIAR, LIAR, PANTS ON FIRE!

After these FAIL PR stunts by AMD over the last two days, I have taken a decision to NOT buy an AMD CPU or an AMD/ATI GPU next time round. Shame, because you just pushed a fence sitter into the Intel and nV camps with all your nonsense!
maybe you should look at pic 3 :slap:
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#17
eidairaman1
xBruce88x said:
Looks like a nice wallpaper of Dirt 3. In that last image it looks like the fans aren't even turning. I know some cameras have this effect with fans while others show em blurred so you know they're spinning so its hard to tell for sure if its working. you don't give us a still image to show how a gpu performs. a 10sec 360p video just to show the system was actually running would be nice.

whether its fast or not, at least they have 28nm parts that are working, if that's really a 28nm gpu



the one with the blower is a mobile cpu. the black heatsink is on a chipset.
its all about timing

RejZoR said:
We're talking AMD here, not Intel...
nor Nvidiot
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#18
newtekie1
Semi-Retired Folder
trickson said:
Looking at them photos I can see that there is a bios chip missing the desk is NOT an office desk . Them are drapes NOT blinds ( 99.99% of all businesses use them in offices ) , His shirt should have some kind of BADGE on it saying AMD or ATI or some thing like that and yeah Iron it pal !
The laptop screen is not on WHY ? Wouldn't it be a better sell if the screen on the laptop was working as well ? This just seems way FAKED to me ! What a JOKE ! If not is AMD giving out there new stuff to any one ? If so why NOT give me a shot at it then ?
And how many mobile platforms do you see with a full desktop PCI-E x1 slot(and traces for a second)?:wtf:
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#20
catnipkiller
Completely Bonkers said:
The mini fans do 2000-3000RPM=30 to 50 turns per second=between a quarter and a full turn of that fan during shutter open time.
ever think about idel speeds?
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#21
WarraWarra
faramir said:
And I want 1x HD7770 :) Decent enough performance with low TDP.
+1 each to lionheart and faramir, 7970 would be perfect for Xmas 2011.

Come on Santa "AMD/ATI" , bring me a dear, make my laptop the cutest you have ever HD7970 seen ....... LOL
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#22
johnksss
hummm, i just want that board setup he has...anyone know where to find one??
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#23
buggalugs
johnksss said:
hummm, i just want that board setup he has...anyone know where to find one??
You cant buy it. Its a testing and diagnostic kit used by manufacturers. The small screen that is off shows all the diagnostic info etc, but obviously they dont want anyone to see that so they turned it off.

Anyway thanks for posting TPU, with the cards coming out in a couple of months they must be close to final samples, so it makes sense. It takes a year or so to develop a new card from scratch so its no surprise they have a few samples undergoing testing at this point.
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#24
techtard
So many options for the upcoming upgrade and holiday season.
Bulldozer and Ivy Bridge, Radeon HD 7xxx and maybe the new nVidia 6xx series.
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#25
TRWOV
That's what makes the wait so much more agonizing.
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