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EastCoasthandleWhat grabbed my attention was the lack of marketing needed to reach such estimated sales. Most of that will in fact be just profit and, won't we subtracted from the amount of money used to market the game.

EastCoasthandleWhat grabbed my attention was the lack of marketing needed to reach such estimated sales. Most of that will in fact be just profit and, won't we subtracted from the amount of money used to market the game.

EastCoasthandleWhat grabbed my attention was the lack of marketing needed to reach such estimated sales. Most of that will in fact be just profit and, won't we subtracted from the amount of money used to market the game.

EastCoasthandleIt's no wonder they are already working on MW4, they already have the funding for it. It goes to show you that a fun game does indeed sell. And mostly through word of mouth and popularity instead of spending millions on marketing. It looks like, to me, that having fun triumphs anything that is not perceived by the consumer as important.

FordGT90ConceptIt's marketing was conducted on Call of Duty: Modern Warfare 2. They didn't need more marketing to sell to those sad PS3 owners that preordered MW3 the moment it was available for preorder.

kid41212003Yes, it's something cool to have and do nowadays among teenagers.

Battlefield simple can't compete with COD because it targets older player, and we --older player-- just don't have all day sitting around talking about how cool cool things are and hyping ourselves, turning so-so game into the greatest game of all time.

Typical American tardness.

That's why most of 99% of American can't even vote to help themselves against the wealthiest 1%.




I think they sold more copies on Xbox360 than any other platforms.

EastCoasthandleLets be fair, BF3 needs to be fixed on many fronts.

While MW3 doesn't have such issues. Although not perfect their game day launch was pretty typical of what one would expect from a game. Perhaps that may have played a part of why it sold so well and it's still being played by many.

Having said as such, it's not the technical merits of BF3 why it doesn't compete with MW3. Neither was it do to the amount of marketing. It's the perception of how people see products from EA and how they see products from Activision. It appears that they trust Activision more. And so far, they are getting what they are expecting from them. Can the same be said about EA? Or will the response be "you need a 64 bit OS"?

EastCoasthandleLike I said, when you play MW3 you know what you are getting.

kid41212003I don't think it's the trust issue here.

A good game in BF3 requires teamwork. People must know what they need to do for it to be fully enjoyable, but that's why BF community like it -- a team based game, and sadly that isn't appeal to younger players (the majority of gamers).

COD - i think you know well what it is

I ignore BF3's bugs because they are bugs, and bugs will always be fixed, and so far in my experiences, all of them have been fixed. I don't like the idea of battlelog, but i don't have problems with it now.

And with the scale of BF3 and its new engine, bugs are to be expected while COD games have been being built in a same engine which is why the game has little to no bug visible.

And because BF3 requires an expensive PC to fully enjoy the game, most people can't really afford that. If you look at the sale figure for the past COD games, most of them were sold on the 360... I'm pretty sure it will be the same with MW3.

It would be fine if they were to sell it at $40 or less as an expansion, but they are not. I'm simple angry at how they do their business and how ignorance people are time after time. Yes i know it's sensible as a business to make money, but we're as consumers must not let them think we're retards.

COD will set an example of what a game is because of how successful it is, but do we as gamers really want that? I'm offended.

EastCoasthandleIn order to have team work you have to have a set of guidelines in order to have complete cohesion.
1. Structure of command. That means having a commander that order squad leaders and squad leaders to order the grunts.
2. Communication. People need a means to communicate with each other while in the same squad in order to understand what objectives will be accomplished. For this to work properly the commander gives order to the squad leader and/or the squad leader delegates them to his squad mates while he stands back being a spawn point.
3. Clear objectives that are not sectioned off depending on what portion of the map you are on. Or so far away requiring a vehicle that is not readily available. That means that flag/mcom placement should be in such a way that gives a clear line of sight of where most of the team is heading for.

Ignoring the bugs BF3 has is part of the problem and why it simply didn't do well against MW3 it was competing against. An obvious bad mistake. Fit and polish goes a long way of someone opinion of the game. It, imo, has a greater impact on a person's perception then just the game's graphics. Unless, that is also an issue, cough high contrast.

And lets be real, many don't like or simply hate battlelog and origin. Telling people that they can only join a server via web browser is simply not something that should have happen and I doubt we will see that in BF4.

To end, people just don't care about a game's engine as proven by MW3 sales. What they care about is how intuitive and fun a game is to play. You don't need to open other application to play it and you aren't missing standard features everyone looks for (voip, in game ping to name a few).

ShRoOmAlIsTiCbiggest thing to hurt bf3 in this comparing is the lack of steam sales. that would have had a big jump on the sales of bf3 so its not that bf3 is a bad game its the way EA handled selling it.

EastCoasthandleExcellent point! Preventing BF3 from Steam certainly didn't help their cause to compete with MW3. I wonder if we will see it on Steam now?

MilkyWayIts spit and polish, like to polish your boots, it means something has a neat and tidiness about it.