Monday, November 14th 2011

Intel Releases Core i7 ''Sandy Bridge-E'' Processors

Intel today released its Core i7-3000 series processor family, codenamed "Sandy Bridge-E". These new processors, along with the new Intel X79 chipset, make up for an entirely new platform. The processors are an upscale of the Sandy Bridge architecture found on chips in the LGA1155 package. The Sandy Bridge-E silicon measures 20.8 x 20.9 mm, with a humungous transistor count of 2.27 billion. In its Core i7-3000 configuration, the silicon has up to 6 cores, up to 15 MB of L3 cache, four DDR3 memory channels, and 40 PCI-Express 3.0 lanes ("some" devices "may" support Gen 3.0, Intel's words).

Sandy Bridge-E has the same instruction set as Sandy Bridge, which includes SSE up to version 4.2, AVX, AES, and features Turbo Boost 2.0, HyperThreading. It's the memory controller that's complete upscale. It features four independent 64-bit paths to DDR3 DIMMs, making it a quad-channel DDR3 IMC. DDR3-1600 MHz is natively supported. There are three models, the Core i7-3960X Extreme Edition leads the pack with a clock speed of 3.30 GHz, 3.90 GHz top Turbo Boost speed, and 15 MB of L3 cache. It has 6 cores and 12 threads with HTT enabled. This chip has all its multipliers unlocked and is geared for overclocking. It is priced at US $990 in 1000 unit tray quantities, though retailers might draw a decent margin for the boxed parts.
The next best chip in the series is Core i7-3930K. With clock speeds of 3.20 GHz and 3.80 GHz (Turbo), this chip has a slightly smaller L3 cache size of 12 MB, though it is still unlocked and geared for overclocking. Like the i7-3960X, this is a 6 core / 12 thread chip. This chip commands a price of $555. Touted to be the most affordable model, the Core i7-3820 is a quad-core part drawn out of disabling two cores (there's no evidence so far that they can be unlocked). With HTT enabled, this chip offers 8 threads. Its L3 cache is further reduced, to 10 MB (still higher than any preceding Core i7 quad-core model). Unfortunately, this chip is "partially unlocked", meaning that its base clock multiplier is locked, though you can still effectively overclock it by tinkering with the base clock. What's even more depressing is that this chip won't be available until Q1 2012. It is supposed to be priced in the $299~$399 range. This means that the only people building Sandy Bridge-E desktops this Christmas will be the ones with at least $600 to spare for a processor.

Moving on to the platform itself, the processor is built on the new LGA2011 package, it's the largest CPU package by dimensions, in recent times. Over its 2011 pins, the processor gives out four DDR3 memory channels and 40 PCI-Express 3.0 lanes, a DMI 4 GB/s connection to the X79 chipset, and a large number of pins handling power. The X79 chipset itself doesn't differ much from the P67 chipset in terms of the kind of connectivity it offers, except support for Intel Smart Response SSD-caching technology.
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81 Comments on Intel Releases Core i7 ''Sandy Bridge-E'' Processors

#51
cadaveca
My name is Dave
WarraWarra@N-Ster if they did a 2600k and added 2 cores it would not suck this much, we will have to wait for 2nd release of the 38XX/39XX chips to see anything decent.
No, a 2600K with two added cores WOULD NOT be faster. Becuase that's exactly what SB-E is...it's actually 2x 2600K, memory controllers and all.

And becuase there are dual memory controllers, not all data may end up in the same ram bank, and this affects single-threaded performance, if only marginally.

I think that again, some people expected too much. SB-E is EXACTLY what I expected. Power consumption, performance..everything is EXACTLY where it was expected to be.

What I want to see is some decent overclocking. And I cannot call it decetn until I play with one myself.
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#52
n-ster
cadavecaNo, a 2600K with two added cores WOULD NOT be faster. Becuase that's exactly what SB-E is...it's actually 2x 2600K, memory controllers and all.

And becuase there are dual memory controllers, not all data may end up in the same ram bank, and this affects single-threaded performance, if only marginally.

I think that again, some people expected too much. SB-E is EXACTLY what I expected. Power consumption, performance..everything is EXACTLY where it was expected to be.

What I want to see is some decent overclocking. And I cannot call it decetn until I play with one myself.
OCing is a great point... I am eager to see non-ES chips OCed
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#53
CyberDruid
I am right in assuming this will be a Cruncher's wet dream?
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#54
cadaveca
My name is Dave
CyberDruidI am right in assuming this will be a Cruncher's wet dream?
I think so, yes. I also think that for people in my situation, whith multiple PCs in teh home, it could be useful to act as both a gaming rig and home media server, from the same box.
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#56
johnnyfiive
cadavecaNo, a 2600K with two added cores WOULD NOT be faster. Becuase that's exactly what SB-E is...it's actually 2x 2600K, memory controllers and all.

And becuase there are dual memory controllers, not all data may end up in the same ram bank, and this affects single-threaded performance, if only marginally.

I think that again, some people expected too much. SB-E is EXACTLY what I expected. Power consumption, performance..everything is EXACTLY where it was expected to be.

What I want to see is some decent overclocking. And I cannot call it decetn until I play with one myself.
EXACTLY, agree 100%. :rockout:
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#57
cadaveca
My name is Dave
Of course, that leads to where the real disappointment for me is...I expected 2x 2600K, for 2.5x the price. That means for me, I expected the EE chip to be an 8-core/16-thread monster, and the entry 4-core/8-thread to be about $429 or so, and perform slightly better than 2600K/2700K on bandwdith-heavy applications, like Multi GPU configs and some games.

However, the 4-core/8-thread CPU is not out yet.

SO I'm disappointed in two things, but big deal.
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#59
15th Warlock
Well, Newegg shipped my 3930K early this morning, so I should have it tomorrow, I placed the order for the Rampage IV Extreme at Excaliber PC this morning too, as they were the only ones to list the board in stock, but an hr. ago a rep. called me to let me know that this was an error on their website and they don't know the ETA for the boards, so they're giving me a full refund, as they had already charged my credit card :p

Will have to wait for the board to be in stock at Amazon or Newegg, it seems no etailer is in procession of this board yet here in America, it'll be a shame to have the CPU and no board yet :p funny when SB was released last year it was the other way around, I had my UD7 almost week before the CPUs were released :ohwell:
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#60
Animalpak
I am not convinced, perhaps I'll take a 2700K setup...
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#61
buggalugs
johnnyfiivelol... how is it a disappointment? It beats Sandy Bridge in every benchmark that actually matters for raw CPU performance. Sandy Bridge-e ISN'T a gaming CPU, its a workstation class/level processor, and it does "workstation" types of task's brilliantly.
The only con is that its not affordable by comparison to Sandy Bridge, but it isn't supposed to be either.

That are so many haters/one-minded people on these forums lately, its really hard to read a thread without getting irritated by ignorance.
omg shutup you fool. I've always defended the high end. I've always purchased the high end. I'll probably still buy it when the price drops a little and the rev 2 motherboards come out.

Its a disappointment to me because it didnt live up to expectations. The opinion around the net is its expensive and offers very little over current gen. For most tasks people do on the computer there is little to none improvement , it costs double/triple and uses much more power to perform the same as socket 1155.

The X79 boards are cut down with less features than they were meant to have, so there will most likley be a new revision in a couple of months. We dont even know if PCI-E 3.0 is properly supported.

And for the idiot who said socket 1366 was the same as socket 1156, Scoket 1366 came out long before socket 1156. Socket 1366 replaced socket 775 at the time and performed much better.

I'm allowed to give my opinion without being called names. I didnt attack your opinion or anyone elses opinion so shut the fuck up.
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#62
LiveOrDie
Hayder_MasterI7 3690k It's 600$ on newegg and 700$ on amazon.
I think you mean 3930K ;)
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#63
Wile E
Power User
cadavecaNo, a 2600K with two added cores WOULD NOT be faster. Becuase that's exactly what SB-E is...it's actually 2x 2600K, memory controllers and all.

And becuase there are dual memory controllers, not all data may end up in the same ram bank, and this affects single-threaded performance, if only marginally.

I think that again, some people expected too much. SB-E is EXACTLY what I expected. Power consumption, performance..everything is EXACTLY where it was expected to be.

What I want to see is some decent overclocking. And I cannot call it decetn until I play with one myself.
OMG Dave!!! Stop making sense. You are scaring away the delusional.
buggalugsomg shutup you fool. I've always defended the high end. I've always purchased the high end. I'll probably still buy it when the price drops a little and the rev 2 motherboards come out.

Its a disappointment to me because it didnt live up to expectations. The opinion around the net is its expensive and offers very little over current gen. For most tasks people do on the computer there is little to none improvement , it costs double/triple and uses much more power to perform the same as socket 1155.

The X79 boards are cut down with less features than they were meant to have, so there will most likley be a new revision in a couple of months. We dont even know if PCI-E 3.0 is properly supported.

And for the idiot who said socket 1366 was the same as socket 1156, Scoket 1366 came out long before socket 1156. Socket 1366 replaced socket 775 at the time and performed much better.

I'm allowed to give my opinion without being called names. I didnt attack your opinion or anyone elses opinion so shut the fuck up.
WTF did you expect, exactly? It's still the Sandybridge architecture.
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#64
Cuzza
Clearly it's just one big conspiracy between, intel, game developers and the government to make gamers rage out.
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#65
Damn_Smooth
CuzzaClearly it's just one big conspiracy between, intel, game developers and the government to make gamers rage out.
I'm raging and I don't even know what the hell I'm raging about. It can't be SB-e because for once, something lived up to every expectation I had for it.
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#66
Cuzza
I suppose, who needs a reason to rage at intel anyway?

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#67
Bundy
There is a bit of price raping here in Aust. 3930 for $650. I was hoping to order soon but looks like I'll be waiting until the retailers put away the lube.
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#68
n-ster
BundyThere is a bit of price raping here in Aust. 3930 for $650. I was hoping to order soon but looks like I'll be waiting until the retailers put away the lube.
Same price at Microcenter yesterday but now at 599.99$ :)

I think that boxing day might be a good day to buy, else once the quad comes out
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#69
Benetanegia
Wile EWTF did you expect, exactly? It's still the Sandybridge architecture.
buggalugsIts a disappointment to me because it didnt live up to expectations. The opinion around the net is its expensive and offers very little over current gen. For most tasks people do on the computer there is little to none improvement , it costs double/triple and uses much more power to perform the same as socket 1155.
That's the problem with these people I guess, somehow they think it's a new gen, when it clearly isn't and somehow they believe Intel owes them something.

SB-E guys, == Sandy Bridge.
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#70
xenocide
BundyThere is a bit of price raping here in Aust. 3930 for $650. I was hoping to order soon but looks like I'll be waiting until the retailers put away the lube.
It's always that way these days. BD CPU's were marked up pretty substantially on a bunch of sites when it first launched as well.
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#71
Lazzer408
But will it blen... ...ok I'll refrain from saying it.

I'm glad to see Intel putting the cache back in. There's certain things about my i2600k that I swear feel slower then my QX9650 was. I blame it on the 4mb of missing cache. The 2600 feels more "AMD'ish" or "Celeron'ish" in comparison. Any news about any "DDR4" memory that attempts to market itself as DDR3 that runs in 4 channels? Something along the lines of "digital ready" speakers?

Oh, and because I'm such an Intel fanboy I was SO happy so see the Bulldozer reviews. :D

@Wile-e: As far as overclocking the sbe. If the cores are the same as 2600k plus an additional mem controller then I would expect the overclocks to be the same as the 2600k IF the additional heat can be managed. Sound about right?
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#72
repman244
I'm really shocked by some comments here. Why would you expect it to be faster than SB? It's the same core/architecture.
Also, I don't know why are many of you crying about it being bad for gaming, it's not really meant for gaming and guess what! There are actually other things you can do on your computer besides gaming.

And also everyone should note that this is meant to be an upgrade of Gulftowns (6 core version), which was accomplished.
The same way SB was compared to the last generation (1156 socket) SB-E should be compared to 1366.
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#73
qubit
Overclocked quantum bit
repman244Also, I don't know why are many of you crying about it being bad for gaming
Because we're primarily hardware enthusiasts who like to game. :) And no-one's complaining it's "bad for gaming", just that it's not any better than SB - and I was one of them.

Anyway, benetanegia cleared that one up for us, here.
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#75
qubit
Overclocked quantum bit
xenocideExcept when it is; www.hardwareheaven.com/reviews/1316/pg16/intel-sandy-bridge-extreme-and-x79-chipset-launch-core-i7-3960x-processor-review-skyrim.html
It's gaming advantage is very limited though and in some benchies it was actually very slightly worse - it all depends on which review you read. As bene and others have pointed out, this is an incremental change to the architecture, so single threaded performance improvements were not the target of this release, adding more cores was. Oh and vastly increasing the price, too. :wtf:
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