Saturday, September 29th 2012

Hard Drive Shipments Rebound to Record Level in 2012

A year after the Thailand flooding disaster partially derailed production, the global hard disk drive (HDD) industry has fully recovered, with shipments to the computer market expected to hit a record level this year, driven by the enterprise market as well as the arrival of the Windows 8 operating system.

HDD shipments in 2012 for the overall computer market, including PCs, are forecast to reach 524.0 million units, up 4.3 percent from 502.5 million units last year, according to an IHS iSuppli Storage Space Market Brief from information and analytics provider IHS.

The 2012 number will be the highest shipment figure on record in the HDD books at year-end-but the achievement will not stand for long. In fact, HDD shipments are projected to climb continually, the stellar results of each year bested by the next in predictable but welcome fashion until at least 2016. By then, HDD shipments will hit 575.1 million units, as shown in the figure below.

The forecast includes HDD shipments only to the PC compute segment, which includes client HDDs for desktops and notebooks on the one hand, and enterprise HDDs for servers and storage systems on the other. The forecast does not include HDD shipments for other applications such as in automotive, external hard drives or DVR devices.

In contrast to the glowing performance of HDDs for the PC space, annual HDD consumer-related shipments will decline this year from 2011 levels.

"HDD shipments for computers will overcome a sluggish third quarter to reach record levels in 2012," said Fang Zhang, analyst for storage systems at IHS. "The yearly rise in HDD shipments is the result of greater demand from the consumer and enterprise PC segments, both of which continue to clamor for disk space in order to hold storage-intensive media like music, videos and other forms of social media content. As downloadable media content becomes more readily accessible and affordable, so will the quest for storage space continue in order to satisfy unremitting demand. Meanwhile, the HDD industry has completely resolved disruptions to its HDD manufacturing and component supply caused by the Thailand disaster that struck one year ago."

Windows 8 to the Rescue
Another major growth driver for the HDD industry will be the new Windows 8 operating system to be launched in October. The market also will be boosted by ultrabooks, including those using hybrid HDD/SDD storage solutions, which will see an increase in shipments in the fourth quarter, although volumes will be relatively low this year.

Both factors are believed to be the best hope by the beleaguered PC sector to take on smartphones and tablets such as the iPad from Apple Inc.-two devices that have gobbled up the once-flourishing market of mobile computers like notebooks and netbooks. Through the revival of the PC sector, the HDD space-especially the enterprise HDD market-also stands to reap benefits by supplying the storage media for computers.

Such encouraging developments overall will help deliver a growth year while compensating for a weak third quarter, blamed by HDD players on persistent economic problems around the globe and the erosion of the PC market by smartphones and tablets.
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49 Comments on Hard Drive Shipments Rebound to Record Level in 2012

#27
KainXS
SasquiI've heard it's usually cheaper per GB to buy an external drive, and tear out the drive. Voids the warrantee, but they make exceptions if you claim to have taken it out to recover data if the drive fails... but then that probable depends on the brand.

I've had all brands of drives fail on me, but I usually stick with WD.
its true, it is cheaper, and it makes no sense, . . . . well at least in my area
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#28
Jetster
Its the supply and demand thing. USB drives just don't sell
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#29
damric
You can keep your slow, noisy, heavy, hot, unreliable hard drives. I'm never buying one again.
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#30
jihadjoe
It makes sense that they'll sell a ton of drives now that prices are starting to normalize. Demand is still inflated from the shortage during the flood and subsequent high prices.
A lot of people have been holding off on buying drive, but will have to eventually (or lose out on pr0n).
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#31
Aquinus
Resident Wat-man
Hard drives rarely fail on me, and when they do, they're Western Digital. Which is fine, because I understand that drives aren't made perfectly and stuff can happen in the design and manufacturing process. It doesn't bother me, because WD tends to offer a good warranty and good performance drives. I find if the drive lasts a year (of a lot of use, 24/7 machine) it will most likely outlive the warranty. I have a 40Gb IDE drive from 9 years ago and it still works great. It has something like 4 and 1/2 years of up time (as recorded by smart,) and the drive (for IDE) still works great, and you know what. That's a Western Digital too. WD has great support and great drives, and if you don't get a drive that is great, then their great support will replace it quickly. It doesn't usually take them more than a day to process the RMA once they get it and they send it back 2-day shipping. At least, that has been my experience.

All in all, at least when a WD drive fails, WD will cover it and I know it's going to take me no time to request the RMA and send it out.
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#32
ChristTheGreat
cdawallWhy exactly are we arguing what brand is best? It has zero to do with the original topic. Oh wait it's because ONE person's opinion is seagate is crap and all of the anti-seagate pro-WD croonies have emerged.

Since we are going to be way off of topic does anyone have any opinions not based on fact whatsoever they want to share about? Anyone for an anti AMD debate?
When someone says something which is false, why would we stay hidden and not correct?

You want an opinion, I will give you one: It is like the Petrol. demand stay high so if they Up the price, it will stay. Just like when they move from 1.35$/L to 1.49$ and the barrel didn't changed...

The price is not even like what we had. Before the Flood, HDD Green 2Tb, I could find for 65$, had a Warranty of 3years... Now we can find green or Seagate 2Tb for like 100$, but they seems cheaper than before. SO they have a shipment record, yeah, and at high price, this is not logic... So basically, they were able to produce enought drive, and if you remember, it was on october? so 3 months after, we where in 2012. So this went kinda fast to be able to rebuild their production..
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#33
bmaverick
Just one week before the WD flooding in Asia, my Samsung 1T drive with warranty was $32 shipped from the NewEgg.

I had given up on WD drives in the past 5 years since 4 had died. Before that it was SeaGate. So, this Samsung is going strong now. It's beaten two WD drives that had died in a shorter time.
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#34
newtekie1
Semi-Retired Folder
ChristTheGreatWhen someone says something which is false, why would we stay hidden and not correct?

You want an opinion, I will give you one: It is like the Petrol. demand stay high so if they Up the price, it will stay. Just like when they move from 1.35$/L to 1.49$ and the barrel didn't changed...

The price is not even like what we had. Before the Flood, HDD Green 2Tb, I could find for 65$, had a Warranty of 3years... Now we can find green or Seagate 2Tb for like 100$, but they seems cheaper than before. SO they have a shipment record, yeah, and at high price, this is not logic... So basically, they were able to produce enought drive, and if you remember, it was on october? so 3 months after, we where in 2012. So this went kinda fast to be able to rebuild their production..
The problem is that right before the flood, WD and Seagate were actually loosing money on every desktop drive they sold. Hitachi's and Samsung's hard drive divisions were dumping drives on the market at extremely low prices just to raise capital because they were struggling. So WD and Seagate had to match the prices to compete.

Then the flood hits, supply drops, and prices skyrocket. Hitachi and Samsung's hard drive divisions are still struggling, so the parent companies decide to sell them off, so they are bought by WD and Seagate.

So now drives are selling for what they should be selling at to make a profit. The prices are back down to where they were about 9 months before the flood. We got spoiled for about 6 months before the flood by extremely low prices on hard drives because of Hitachi and Samsung flooding the market with cheap drives, but there was no way that could continue for very long, flood in Thailand or not. Drives are still selling for $0.05/GB, that is extremely cheap prices, 2 years ago the prices were about double that.
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#35
cdawall
where the hell are my stars
ChristTheGreatWhen someone says something which is false, why would we stay hidden and not correct?
That has absolutely nothing to do with Seagate being shitty drives and WD being god. So no you completely missed the point of my post and are making a fool of yourself.
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#36
Hood
cdawallThat has absolutely nothing to do with Seagate being shitty drives and WD being god. So no you completely missed the point of my post and are making a fool of yourself.
They're all shitty drives, Seagate's are just a bit shittier. There must be a reason their drives sell so much cheaper than anyone else's. Is it because they love us and want to give us a great deal? - no. It's because they can barely give them away as door prizes, much less SELL them at retail. I'll bet lots of OEM computers come with Seagate drives lately, which is fine since the $20 power supply won't last 6 months anyway, nor will the $50 motherboard.
There, how's that for a Seagate rant? Now let's hear someone shred WD for a while...
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#37
n-ster
Just look at reviews on the internet to see if the drive is good or not

I need my experience Seagate have a bit more of bad drives, but their good drives last a long time. I also experienced drives weaker to shock by Seagate

For an external drive that I want to put in an external enclosure, I avoid Seagate, for the rest I usually don't mind Samsung Seagate or Western Digital

While pre flood drives were really cheap, those pride would be fine right now as tech prices always fall
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#38
Hood
I like the WD Caviar Blacks, they are 7200s and have a 5 year warranty (WD green & blue are 2 years, but Seagate Barracudas are only 1 year). like n-ster said, look at the reviews - half the barracudas fail in the first 6 months if they work at all, there's mixed reviews on the WD greens, and glowing reviews on the WD blacks. The blacks cost almost twice as much, but you probably won't lose your data. I've had 2 of the WD green 2TB drives (pre-flood $79 each) running non-stop for 2 years now and both still show 100% drive health, so I'm keeping my fingers crossed, but my next drive purchase will be a WD black 2TB ($189!) because I need a reliable back up drive for my extensive 24-96 music collection (820 GB and growing).
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#39
Grave
DaCThat's why I'm struggling for so much time with free space.... I'm ain't buying a new HD until prices are "normal" again. I can do with my 2.5 TB total.... if needed I'll just delete some HD films or games that I don't watch/play.

I got used to the low margin and big quantity on the PC industry, I'm not paying $$$$$$$ for an HD or VGA that must have been out much cheaper. So I keep holding or buying good used stuff for cheap, like mine 6870.... if more people did that prices would be a lot more reasonable.
last hdd i bought was a year ago and i'm not buying another one until the prices are at least on the same level they were before the price gouging started. i usually buy several hdds per year so its their loss.
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#40
Drmark
I have had 3 Seagate 2tb green drives fail this year out of 11. I just bought 4 Hitachi 4tb drives to start replacing the Seagates.
And with this good news.. where are the 5tb drives they promised us in Feb?
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#41
Hood
DrmarkI have had 3 Seagate 2tb green drives fail this year out of 11. I just bought 4 Hitachi 4tb drives to start replacing the Seagates.
And with this good news.. where are the 5tb drives they promised us in Feb?
I never heard that 5TB drives were coming, where did you hear that? Maybe they realized that even the 3TB drives were having issues. I'm staying with 2TB drives until the larger ones get more reliable. As for your Seagates, 3 out of 11 in one year is not very good odds. In the past 2 years, I bought 5 WD drives of various capacities and colors, and all 5 are still showing 100% health. So how are the 4TB Hitachis working? Any issues? I have a Hitachi external 1TB drive that's still going after 2 years, even though it's enclosure is fanless and it runs 10c hotter than the drives in my case.
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#42
newtekie1
Semi-Retired Folder
HoodThe blacks cost almost twice as much, but you probably won't lose your data.
Yeah, but at the price of the Black drives you are up in the same price range as the Seagate enterprise Constellation drives, so those are what you should be comparing them to, not the Barracudas.
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#43
Hood
newtekie1Yeah, but at the price of the Black drives you are up in the same price range as the Seagate enterprise Constellation drives, so those are what you should be comparing them to, not the Barracudas.
I'm not really comparing them, just saying that for maximum data retention, the WD blacks are your best bet. But I haven't studied the Constellations, so I will definitely look into that before I buy. What are your thoughts on and experiences with the high end Seagates?
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#44
TheMailMan78
Big Member
newtekie1Yeah, but at the price of the Black drives you are up in the same price range as the Seagate enterprise Constellation drives, so those are what you should be comparing them to, not the Barracudas.
I had two WD Blacks die on me last year. All Mfg. have bad drives. IMO its just luck of the draw. Its all about the "bath tub" scale man.
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#45
Frick
Fishfaced Nincompoop
TheMailMan78I had two WD Blacks die on me last year. All Mfg. have bad drives. IMO its just luck of the draw. Its all about the "bath tub" scale man.
New drives with new technology (or when they are pushing the sizes) generally have a higher fault rate, at least to begin with. Not so surprising but it's good to know about it.
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#46
AsRock
TPU addict
KantasticThe problem is the demand never changed.
So true if any thing it got bigger witch is not surprising for multiple reasons.
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#47
Hood
TheMailMan78Its all about the "bath tub" scale man.
I like the "bathtub curve" analogy - if your drive fails in the middle of the curve, your money went "down the drain", because it's probably out of warranty. At the beginning a failure gets you a new drive, at the end of the curve you already received more value than what you paid for. So they probably design them to fail right after the warranty is up. But with the 5 year warranty on WD Blacks, compared to 1 or 2 year on most others, isn't it worth the higher price in the long run? (price 1.8 times as much, warranty 2.5 to 5 times as much).
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#48
Drmark
The Hitachi's are running around 100-109F and working out well. No issues or problems yet. The Seagates are running around 90-98F. Slow to run, slow to start-up and crappy.
There are a few places on the internet where during Oct 2011- Feb 2012 the drive Mfg's said the 5tb's would be out by March-ish 2012 sometime.
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#49
newtekie1
Semi-Retired Folder
HoodI'm not really comparing them, just saying that for maximum data retention, the WD blacks are your best bet. But I haven't studied the Constellations, so I will definitely look into that before I buy. What are your thoughts on and experiences with the high end Seagates?
Actually, if you want maximum data retention, RAID1/5/6 are your best bet. I'll take 3 Barracudas in RAID5 over a single WD Black any day.
TheMailMan78I had two WD Blacks die on me last year. All Mfg. have bad drives. IMO its just luck of the draw. Its all about the "bath tub" scale man.
I've got two WD Blues dead on my desk right now that are less than 2 months old, they were purchased Aug. 3rd. I've received a WD RE that was DOA about 6 months ago, and had a RE die after less than 6 months in service.

I completely agree with you, it is luck of the draw with hard drives, from anyone and from any product class. So if that data is important, it should always be in at least two places.
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