Saturday, November 19th 2016

AMD's Internal ZEN SR7, SR5, SR3 Priced Above A12-9800

AMD's first desktop processors based on the "ZEN" micro-architecture will be priced above the fastest socket AM4 part currently in production, the A12-9800 APU. While AMD hasn't started selling the A-series socket AM4 APUs in the retail channel, the top-end A12-9800, which is faster than the A10-7870K from its previous-generation, is expected to be priced at least the same ($160) or higher. This would mean that even the cheapest ZEN part, under the ZEN SR3 series, likely quad-core; could be priced above $160.

Two key slides from a presentation AMD intended for Chinese distribution channels, was leaked to the web by ChipHell tech forum members, revealing that ZEN parts will be priced in a segment "above" RMB ¥1,500 (USD $218), assuming that that's a price inclusive of all taxes. The company also put out some performance numbers for the A8-9600 "Bristol Ridge" socket AM4 APU, keeping the "Godavari" A8-7650K as baseline, compared to the Intel Core i3-6100 "Skylake" processor. The A8-9600 was shown to be faster in most tests.
Source: ChipHell
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28 Comments on AMD's Internal ZEN SR7, SR5, SR3 Priced Above A12-9800

#1
arterius2
i3-6100, Really AMD?

Can't bring myself to care, never used an i3 in my life, or an i5 for that matter.
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#2
Frick
Fishfaced Nincompoop
arterius2 said:
i3-6100, Really AMD?

Can't bring myself to care, never used an i3 in my life, or an i5 for that matter.
You're such a man.
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#3
arterius2
Frick said:
You're such a man.
thx
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#4
Aquinus
Resident Wat-man
arterius2 said:
i3-6100, Really AMD?

Can't bring myself to care, never used an i3 in my life, or an i5 for that matter.
Since everyone is just like you? Haha.
arterius2 said:

[quote=Frick, post: 3557623, member: 23907]You're such a man.
thx[/quote]It's called sarcasm. It's his way of saying you're acting like a child.
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#5
noname00
I never expected AMD do sell the same performance as intel for half the money. I just hope they will still have better performance/price than Intel, and at least match the 6600k performance + overclocking potential.
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#6
dj-electric
noname00 said:
I never expected AMD do sell the same performance as intel for half the money. I just hope they will still have better performance/price than Intel, and at least match the 6600k performance + overclocking potential.
I doubt that at least in gaming any new AMD CPU will match the 6600K.
That said, a 4C 8T AMD part priced right could replace i3 6100 as a good choice for cheap gaming machines.
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#7
theoneandonlymrk
arterius2 said:
i3-6100, Really AMD?

Can't bring myself to care, never used an i3 in my life, or an i5 for that matter.
It's a quad v quad v a quad in operable cores and I bet the cost of an i3 makes it more than a fair comparison imho.
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#8
Solidstate89
arterius2 said:
i3-6100, Really AMD?

Can't bring myself to care, never used an i3 in my life, or an i5 for that matter.
That chart is comparing the i3 to their APU lineup. It's completely an accurate comparison to use as they're within a similar price and performance range.
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#9
Melvis
Excellent! this is what I want to see, this means the performance is good and we will have good high performing APU's, im looking forward to it.
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#10
Prima.Vera
theoneandonlymrk said:
It's a quad v quad v a quad in operable cores and I bet the cost of an i3 makes it more than a fair comparison imho.
i3 is a dual core dude :) :)
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#11
Pehla
noname00 said:
I never expected AMD do sell the same performance as intel for half the money. I just hope they will still have better performance/price than Intel, and at least match the 6600k performance + overclocking potential.
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"'The company also put out some performance numbers for the A8-9600 "Bristol Ridge" socket AM4 APU, keeping the "Godavari" A8-7650K as baseline, compared to the Intel Core i3-6100 "Skylake" processor. The A8-9600 was shown to be faster in most tests''
and what part you didnt understand?? its apu from AMD and not even the high end!!
their top notch cpu will be on par with intel extreme..so read before coment!!
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#12
theoneandonlymrk
Prima.Vera said:
i3 is a dual core dude :) :)
With Ht so it acts as a quad.
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#13
marios15
theoneandonlymrk said:
With Ht so it acts as a quad.
I can act as a zombie, that doesn't make me a zombie.
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#14
HD64G
The comparison shows the least powerful 4-thread apus from AMD (7670 of the previous and 9600 of the current gen) vs the least powerful 4-thread i3 from the Intel side. Nothing to do with Zen. And for the 4C-8T Zen to be in higher price level to A12-9800 means something about Zen's power me thinks, as atm in my country, A10-7890K which should be lower priced than A12-9800 is on exaclty the same price as FX-8350. So, the RS3 should be more clearly powerful than that to be priced higher in price. Let's hope my mathematically logical assumption is connected to the reality in AMD's management too.
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#15
$ReaPeR$
marios15 said:
I can act as a zombie, that doesn't make me a zombie.
and that is irrelevant. the comparison is based on price. based on the price they are similar products. its not AMDs fault that Intel chooses to sell a dual core, all be it with HT, in 2016.
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#16
LTUGamer
AMD always looks cool when compares CPU + IGP performance but when it is compared CPU processing performance they looks lame
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#17
MichaelM
arterius2 said:
i3-6100, Really AMD?

Can't bring myself to care, never used an i3 in my life, or an i5 for that matter.
Arterius, I will help you read these sentences.

The "Godavari" is AMD's old last-gen CPU and will be AMD's baseline, just like the 6100 is Intel's baseline.

Every single new processor mentioned, the SR3, SR5, SR7 is above the 6100 and not the baseline.

If you need help reading in the future just send me a PM and I'll help you sound out the words.
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#18
theoneandonlymrk
marios15 said:
I can act as a zombie, that doesn't make me a zombie.
Many say the same of AMD's version of a module but it's about how the user sees and uses them ,and in that and most common sense ways it's a fair fight.
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#19
JMccovery
marios15 said:
I can act as a zombie, that doesn't make me a zombie.
Since zombies don't exist, acting as one makes you one, technically.
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#20
$ReaPeR$
JMccovery said:
Since zombies don't exist, acting as one makes you one, technically.
LOL
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#21
arterius2
Aquinus said:
Since everyone is just like you? Haha.

It's called sarcasm. It's his way of saying you're acting like a child.
lol thx to you too, and have a good day.

(that was sarcasm too)
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#22
Aquinus
Resident Wat-man
JMccovery said:
Since zombies don't exist, acting as one makes you one, technically.
As amused as I am, @marios15 has a point. Hyper-threading doesn't make it a quad core, it makes it capable of executing up to 4 threads at once. The gains on average probably make it a stretch to even call it equivalent to a third core however, it's performance that wouldn't have otherwise been had so, it's the next best thing to having a quad-core in my opinion.
arterius2 said:
lol thx to you too, and have a good day.

(that was sarcasm too)
You're welcome? :ohwell:
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#23
Prima.Vera
Aquinus said:
As amused as I am, @marios15 has a point. Hyper-threading doesn't make it a quad core, it makes it capable of executing up to 4 threads at once. The gains on average probably make it a stretch to even call it equivalent to a third core however, it's performance that wouldn't have otherwise been had so, it's the next best thing to having a quad-core in my opinion.
Than why such a big performance difference between an i3 and an i5? Both are capable of executing 4 threads at once. ;)
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#24
Frick
Fishfaced Nincompoop
Prima.Vera said:
Than why such a big performance difference between an i3 and an i5? Both are capable of executing 4 threads at once. ;)
He literally just said why.
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#25
Aquinus
Resident Wat-man
Prima.Vera said:
Than why such a big performance difference between an i3 and an i5? Both are capable of executing 4 threads at once. ;)
Do I really have to spell it out for you? Just because it's running 4 threads doesn't mean they're all executing in the same amount of time. Two HT threads would be lucky (on a good day,) to have the same throughput as a single fully fledged core.

It's like getting super excited about having a V8 or an I6 in your car or truck but, then forgetting that it's only a 2.0 liter engine. :laugh:
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