Tuesday, February 21st 2017
AMD Ryzen Stock Cooling Solutions Detailed
AMD is expected to package its upcoming Ryzen desktop processors in five ways - OEM trays (for system integrators and big pre-built PC manufacturers), PIB (processor in a box) with its basic fan-heatsink cooling solution, PIB with the new Wraith Spire cooling solution; PIB with the new Wraith Max cooling solution, and WOF (without fan-heatsink consumer). You can find the various models of Ryzen processors listed in our older article.
AMD's first wave of Ryzen processors consist of 65W and 95W TDP chips. Some of the more cost-effective models, such as the quad-core Ryzen R3 and SMT-equipped quad-core Ryzen R5, and certain variants of the six-core Ryzen R5, which have their TDP rated at 65W, could include AMD's basic cooling solution. According to XFastest, this cooler will look identical to the ones AMD used to bundle with its FX-series processors, before it innovated its Wraith cooling solution (representative image below). These coolers were being bundled with 125W TDP FX-series chips, and will now be re-tuned for low noise for the 65W TDP Ryzen chips, and will feature AM4 compatibility. Given this, we expect them to do a good job.
Next up, is the Wraith Spire. Included with certain non-X Ryzen 5 and Ryzen 7 processor models, this cooler has a thermal load rating of 95W. It features a round aluminium heatsink with spirally projecting fins, mated to a large (70-80 mm) fan. The cooler measures 109 mm x 103 mm x 54 mm (LxWxH), and will offer the kind of low-noise we've come to expect of AMD's Wraith cooling solutions. The PIB retail boxes will feature clear imagery to indicate the inclusion of the Wraith Spire cooler.
Lastly, there's the top-dog Wraith Max cooler. Bundled with some of the top-grade Ryzen 7 series eight-core chips, the cooler is a beefier version of the Wraith cooling solution AMD launched with the FX-series processor. It has a rated design limit of 140W thermal load, and since it will be bundled with 95W TDP Ryzen chips, one can expect good noise levels. The topmost-tier Ryzen 7 chips with "X" brand extension (eXtended frequency range feature), will ship as WOF (without fan-heatsink) packages, much like Intel sells its unlocked "K" and "X" Core processors.
Sources:
InformaticaCero, XFastest, VideoCardz
AMD's first wave of Ryzen processors consist of 65W and 95W TDP chips. Some of the more cost-effective models, such as the quad-core Ryzen R3 and SMT-equipped quad-core Ryzen R5, and certain variants of the six-core Ryzen R5, which have their TDP rated at 65W, could include AMD's basic cooling solution. According to XFastest, this cooler will look identical to the ones AMD used to bundle with its FX-series processors, before it innovated its Wraith cooling solution (representative image below). These coolers were being bundled with 125W TDP FX-series chips, and will now be re-tuned for low noise for the 65W TDP Ryzen chips, and will feature AM4 compatibility. Given this, we expect them to do a good job.
Lastly, there's the top-dog Wraith Max cooler. Bundled with some of the top-grade Ryzen 7 series eight-core chips, the cooler is a beefier version of the Wraith cooling solution AMD launched with the FX-series processor. It has a rated design limit of 140W thermal load, and since it will be bundled with 95W TDP Ryzen chips, one can expect good noise levels. The topmost-tier Ryzen 7 chips with "X" brand extension (eXtended frequency range feature), will ship as WOF (without fan-heatsink) packages, much like Intel sells its unlocked "K" and "X" Core processors.
42 Comments on AMD Ryzen Stock Cooling Solutions Detailed
You can choose whether or not you want a cooler for your 1700 or 1800X; you dont HAVE to. IF you're going for no OC but highperformer; well choose the option WITH cooler; if you wanna OC; choose the option WITHOUT cooler and save a few bucks. It is SUPER logical! I dont get why it is so hard to comprehend!? :S
Looking at the picture from the text we see the -X CPUs are shown in a "WOF" version (no cooler), but the "non X" 1700 has 2 versions... both with a cooler (the weaker one).
EDIT!: :D
AMD has just shown the new offer.
1700 will be offered with a cooler only (Wraith Spire).
1700X and 1800X will be offered without a cooler (at least that's the current official statement).
Wraith Max (the square one) wasn't mentioned at all.
So it seems AMD agrees with me: Intel strategy makes sense and they've just copied it.
At this point there is only one unknown: if the 1700 is unlocked, but NOT targeted at overclockers, what is it's OC potential?
1.You can get it with a cooler or not:
2. there is 3 different types of coolers to meet the TDP.
Ad 2. I don't understand this at all.
And please don't diffuse the word "dude". You're hurting the language I have been learning for many years and became very fond of.
It's been hours since the press conference and - while the main AMD web page redirects to Ryzen information - new chips are still not mentioned on their product list... :/
2. It means that according to the leaks you have to choose from getting a cooler or not in all 3 'cpu-classes' (with cooler matching accordingly)
I've even pointed out that AMD has shown the CPUs and there's only a single package version for each one. :P
The future of "Wraith Max" remains a mystery. The photo available on the web (and discussed here) really looks like a preproduction copy.Let's just hope leaks about performance were more reliable. :)
Many "maybes" coming:
- maybe they'll sell them separately?
- maybe the cooler simply wasn't ready (in design or stock volume) and they didn't want to postpone Ryzen launch date?
- maybe they researched the market and decided the demand will be too small?
IMO offering a cooler at launch was an excellent idea (new, backward-incompatible mount) - especially since cooler makers seem to overslept the moment (or maybe AMD didn't send them specifications on purpose?).
By offering a cooler later, they loose quite a bit of income. And if they'd still want to offer boxes both with and without the Wraith Max, it'll have to deliver (and AMD isn't particularly famous for high quality of their coolers).
This video doesn't seem to be captured at AMDs event.