Wednesday, April 5th 2017

AMD's RX 580, 570 and RX 550 Specifications and 3D Mark Results Leak

So, it would appear that rumors and leaks about the RX 500 series being simple rebrands of AMD's RX 400 line were true. Recent leaks point to no more changes and performance increases than those achieved through higher base clock speeds on the graphics cards' GPU and memory. The architecture is the same, and the process seems to have followed the same path - as of yet, no confirmation regarding whether or not these cards do use a newer, leaner LPP process for higher clocks and less power consumption.

The RX 580 will come in with clocks at 1340 MHz with 4 GB and 8 GB GDDR5 variants clocking in at 8.0 GHz along a 256-bit bus interface. This amounts to 256 GB/s of bandwidth, and pricing should be around the $199 - $249 mark. On the leaked Firestrike Extreme test, this card was clocked to 1500 MHz (not easy to achieve with current Polaris 10 GPUs) and a 6675 points score. The RX 570, on the other hand, seems to have not been given the core clocks bump treatment, but memory speeds should see an increase to 7 GHz, delivering 224 GB/s of bandwidth. Overclocked to 1325 MHz, it delivered a score of 5719 points in the same benchmark. Finally, the new kid on the block, AMD's Polaris 12 is somewhat of a head-scratcher of a part, with its measly 640 stream processors (the line between discrete graphics and integrated ones is really blurry here). RX 550 reference cards should come in at 1190 MHz, where it scores 1849 in 3DMark FireStrike Extreme, though the card does so with only PCIe power.
Pricing should be in line with AMD's RX 400 series, and performance should be comparable to RX 400 AIB cards, so no setting the world on fire here. If delay reports are true, expect these to be launched on April 18th. The RX 560 is MIA for now, but there is no reason to think it won't be launched alongside the other cards in the RX 500 line.Source: WCCFTech, ETeknix
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90 Comments on AMD's RX 580, 570 and RX 550 Specifications and 3D Mark Results Leak

#1
cdawall
where the hell are my stars
Cool would be if the stock boost was 1500. I strongly doubt that would be a thing, but it would offer a reason to look at the cards for a lot of people. That is 980Ti like performance in quite a few games.
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#2
siluro818
I really fail to see what is the point of this particular rebrand...
They aren't including any new RX5xx cards, so it's not like they need to bring the old cards in line with some performance-related naming scheme .
Nor it is like the R290 -> R390 rebrand, where the new cards had different and faster memory chips and twice the VRAM capacity.
It's literally the same cards with some overclock. Could have called them RX480Pro or some BS like that if they wanted to emphasize their edge.
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#3
cdawall
where the hell are my stars
siluro818 said:
I really fail to see what is the point of this particular rebrand...
They aren't including any new RX5xx cards, so it's not like they need to bring the old cards in line with some performance-related naming scheme .
Nor it is like the R290 -> R390 rebrand, where the new cards had different and faster memory chips and twice the VRAM capacity.
It's literally the same cards with some overclock. Could have called them RX480Pro or some BS like that if they wanted to emphasize their edge.
It is a swap from LPE to LPP. That is a relatively big change for them, also remember the RX480 got a bad name for power consumption. As a company it is very easy to see why they would change the name with the update. Would you want people to start off with a bad taste from reviews of a completely different card?
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#4
ASOT
AMD Rebranding stuff,again ))))
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#5
danbert2000
I think it's a mistake for AMD to start rebranding old GPU's again. I know it was common practice last decade, but these changes aren't even as big as the 3XX series Radeon memory and clock boost, and that was an iffy choice as well.

They are just going to confuse customers and make it look like they're running in place as Nvidia releases the third new architecture in a row. Naming it the 485 instead of the 580 would be a much better choice.
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#6
alucasa
So how is RX550 when compared to 1050ti?
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#7
NeDix!
alucasa said:
So how is RX550 when compared to 1050ti?
Should be the 50% or something of the 1050ti, but half of the price too :|
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#8
TheLaughingMan
Did they just confirm that the RX 500 series will use HBM2 memory? should the improvement in memory performance have some barring on overall performance?
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#9
cdawall
where the hell are my stars
vega is HBM
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#10
owen10578
Oh wow im early and already seeing people hating on this rebrand.

Switching to LPP to reduce power and increase overclocks (1500MHz mentioned here) is quite significant and I'd happily take that. No one said its to replace the 480 in people's rigs but i see how this makes it even more appealing than the 1060 and also gives more reason for people with older cards to upgrade.

Also i don't see people complaining about Nvidia not even refreshing their cards.
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#11
Adam Freeman
I believe that AMD could choose to launch these new modified card as Rx 485 and Rx 475 instead of launching
them as a complete new Rx 500 series. But I guess the reason why AMD didn't do that is its experience in the past
with the R9 285 which didn't sell well and AMD maybe thinks that the chosen marketing name for that card
didn't encourage customers to buy it since it reflects only a slight difference in model number (and performance ofcourse)
compared to R9 280. So the company decided to release the new cards as a new series for marketing purposes
and believe me there is a lot of low-educated or inexperienced customers that would buy a new card that has
a higher model number from a new series or generation thinking it's a lot better than the same card from previous series.
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#13
simlariver
Soooo, Are they going to release mobile parts of the 500 series ?
Isn't the latest MBP equipped with 500-something gpu's ?
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#14
owen10578
Adam Freeman said:
I believe that AMD could choose to launch these new modified card as Rx 485 and Rx 475 instead of launching
them as a complete new Rx 500 series. But I guess the reason why AMD didn't do that is its experience in the past
with the R9 285 which didn't sell well and AMD maybe thinks that the chosen marketing name for that card
didn't encourage customers to buy it since it reflects only a slight difference in model number (and performance ofcourse)
compared to R9 280. So the company decided to release the new cards as a new series for marketing purposes
and believe me there is a lot of low-educated or inexperienced customers that would buy a new card that has
a higher model number from a new series or generation thinking it's a lot better than the same card from previous series.
Yes sir that's the point of this rebrand i think. The 480 had mixed reviews with over drawing the pcie slot and what not so this is pretty much amd trying to create a clean slate.
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#15
danbert2000
owen10578 said:
Oh wow im early and already seeing people hating on this rebrand.

Switching to LPP to reduce power and increase overclocks (1500MHz mentioned here) is quite significant and I'd happily take that. No one said its to replace the 480 in people's rigs but i see how this makes it even more appealing than the 1060 and also gives more reason for people with older cards to upgrade.

Also i don't see people complaining about Nvidia not even refreshing their cards.
Nvidia doesn't have to refresh their cards yet because they have three cards that are faster than AMD's fastest. Also, they did bump the memory speeds on the 1060 and 1080, all without a silly rebrand. When Nvidia does drop new cards this summer or fall, they're going to actually have a performance increase better than 5% and it's going to be justifiable that the cards are part of the 11XX series instead of the 10XX series. AMD has no excuse for being lazy and incrementing the model with no improvements. They're going to run out of hundreds pretty fast if they change the model number every year instead of every time they actually improve their performance!
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#16
owen10578
danbert2000 said:
Nvidia doesn't have to refresh their cards yet because they have three cards that are faster than AMD's fastest. Also, they did bump the memory speeds on the 1060 and 1080, all without a silly rebrand. When Nvidia does drop new cards this summer or fall, they're going to actually have a performance increase better than 5% and it's going to be justifiable that the cards are part of the 11XX series instead of the 10XX series. AMD has no excuse for being lazy and incrementing the model with no improvements. They're going to run out of hundreds pretty fast if they change the model number every year instead of every time they actually improve their performance!
They did bump the memory but you could already overclock those to get the same speeds in the end. AMD's 580s are on a more refined process it seems which in theory should reduce power draw and if just if 1500MHz OCs are now possible it would be worth a rebrand imo. If you're taking issue with the rebranding part then get that it's for marketing purposes and Nvidia did even worse with the 1060 3GB being marketed as a "1060" when it has less cores and fits more on 1050Ti Boost or 1060SE or something. AMD isn't lazy as you said. They refreshed their cards when Nvidia haven't yet I don't see the problem with that. And again we'll see with what these 500 series offers.
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#17
RejZoR
If all cards came with 200MHz extra on core from factory, that would be a reasonable rebrand. Being bound to OC, it'll dpeend a lot from card to card.
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#18
siluro818
cdawall said:
It is a swap from LPE to LPP. That is a relatively big change for them, also remember the RX480 got a bad name for power consumption. As a company it is very easy to see why they would change the name with the update. Would you want people to start off with a bad taste from reviews of a completely different card?
Right, I keep forgetting that the production process changed.
But I never got the impression that RX480 left a bad impression with its power consumption.
Then again I have R390 - to me everything else scores better on that particular account lol
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#19
ASOT
HD 7850-R9 270 HD 7870-R9 270X HD 7950-R9 280 HD 7970-R9 280X
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#20
siluro818
ASOT said:
HD 7850-R9 270 HD 7870-R9 270X HD 7950-R9 280 HD 7970-R9 280X
Well, that was precisely a case of doing the rebranding to fit the old cards with the then newly released R290 ones, which makes sense. But they're not releasing the Vega cards as RX590 - they're just Vega, so no one really cares if these are named RX480 or 580.
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#21
Foobario
siluro818 said:
I really fail to see what is the point of this particular rebrand...
They aren't including any new RX5xx cards, so it's not like they need to bring the old cards in line with some performance-related naming scheme .
Nor it is like the R290 -> R390 rebrand, where the new cards had different and faster memory chips and twice the VRAM capacity.
It's literally the same cards with some overclock. Could have called them RX480Pro or some BS like that if they wanted to emphasize their edge.
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#22
cdawall
where the hell are my stars
ASOT said:
HD 7850-R9 270 HD 7870-R9 270X HD 7950-R9 280 HD 7970-R9 280X
8800GTS 512, 9800 GTX, 9800GTX+, GTS250 the list goes on for G92. Don't even get me started with their bottom end. Both companies rebrand. Stop complaining and move on.
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#23
Foobario
By changing the names the cards get reviewed. Since it is rare for a GPU to get reviewed after driver updates it is difficult for the buying public to know the real performance level of current cards.

In the case of the RX 480, if it were reviewed now with current silicon being produced you would find it is more efficient due to maturity of GLOFO's manufacturing process. It is faster and only loses to the 1060 in games optimized for Nvidia.

Unfortunately, most reviewers test a card once and regurgitate those same results in future reviews when other new cards come out. Totally ignoring improved drivers and better die quality as time progresses.
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#24
alucasa
Everybody does it at one point. What's the big deal?

We do have the choice of protesting by not buying them.
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#25
silentbogo
The only thing that bothers me, once again is this:
Raevenlord said:
AMD's Polaris 12 is somewhat of a head-scratcher of a part, with its measly 640 stream processors (the line between discrete graphics and integrated ones is really blurry here). RX 550 reference cards should come in at 1190 MHz, where it scores 1849 in 3DMark FireStrike Extreme
If that line is blurry, @Raevenlord seriously needs to consider Lasic surgery. Iris Pro 580 only does ~800pts, and thats twice as much as an integrated R7 on top-of-the-line Carrizo APUs (which AMD showcased some time ago, playing LoL and Dota).
250% is way too much for such a bold statement.

There is a place for such cards, and I'm glad AMD did not forget about it. Beyond a few OEM models we really had nothing new in this segment for over 3 years (maybe more).
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