Sunday, June 11th 2017

Intel Announces 9th Gen Core "Cannon Lake" On Track, "Ice Lake" Taped Out

Intel announced that its first CPU micro-architecture built on its upcoming 10 nanometer silicon fab process, the 9th generation Core "Cannon Lake," is on track. In a tweet on the official company account, Intel also announced that its second micro-architecture on the new 10 nm process, codenamed "Ice Lake," is taped out.

In the wake of a competitive CPU lineup by AMD, Intel is frantically upgrading its product lineup, beginning with the new "Basin Falls" HEDT platform early-Summer 2017, followed by its 14 nm "Coffee Lake" 8th generation Core series late-Summer. "Coffee Lake" sees the first six-core SKUs to Intel's mainstream desktop lineup, which has until now, been restricted to dual-core and quad-core parts.
"Cannon Lake" is essentially a die-shrink of "Coffee Lake" to the 10 nm process, and one can't expect huge micro-architecture changes, besides maybe higher clock speeds or lower TDP. "Ice Lake," on the other hand, is expected to be a major micro-architecture update of the kind "Skylake" is to "Broadwell." With its silicon taped-out, one can expect a mid-thru-late 2018 product roll-out, if the 10 nm execution goes as planned for Intel. Source: Intel (Twitter)
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22 Comments on Intel Announces 9th Gen Core "Cannon Lake" On Track, "Ice Lake" Taped Out

#1
AsRock
TPU addict
HAHA some ones been drinking to much coffee to get this put together.

If i were to upgrade i would go AMD just because, lose a little performance to help a company that gets other company's asses in to gear.
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#2
chaosmassive
"major change in architecture" back then was completely different architecture
Pentium 4 is completely different from Pentium 3, C2D/C2Q is another different kind of beast from Pentium 3,
AND 2nd gen completely different from 1st gen core i series

until it stagnant from 3000 series onward til today...
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#3
Prima.Vera
"btarunr said:
one can't expect huge micro-architecture changes, besides maybe higher clock speeds or lower TDP
Thank you very much Intel for another wasted year. Or maybe should I have said thank you for keeping the money in my wallet.
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#4
eidairaman1
The Exiled Airman
"chaosmassive said:
"major change in architecture" back then was completely different architecture
Pentium 4 is completely different from Pentium 3, C2D/C2Q is another different kind of beast from Pentium 3,
AND 2nd gen completely different from 1st gen core i series

until it stagnant from 3000 series onward til today...
Core 2 were P6 Architecture like the Pentium 3, Pentium Pro.

Core i was like a hybrid because of hyper threading.
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#5
ensabrenoir
.....feeling like everything coming out now is a knee jerk reaction..... gonna give them a year or so to really get their head back in the game.
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#6
RejZoR
Skylake to Broadwell is considered as "major" update? It's the same crap. I have a CPU from even one generation back and it's still better (Haswell). 6 cores, 12 threads and clock of 4.5GHz. 7700K can cry all it wants.
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#7
First Strike
@btarunr Well, I believe there are inaccuracies in this post. Ice Lake is not being taped-out, it is being taped-IN, which is a stage prior to taping-out.
Once taped-out, it is going to be just a few months away from availability, which is, apparently, not the case here.
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#8
Aenra
"AsRock said:
HAHA some ones been drinking to much coffee to get this put together.

If i were to upgrade i would go AMD just because, lose a little performance to help a company that gets other company's asses in to gear.
Something similar here.. plus, tbh? This 5-10% performance difference, i'd never even realize, let alone "see" anywhere, not unless someone came and told me 'bout it. Let us not forget how minimal it is.
Also, way the big boys (Intel, Nvidia) are acting, i don't see any motive for people like me to keep spending.. we're talking mini changes, charged for upwards of 1K, sans the mobo, that again, one wouldn't even feel outside benches. Where's the incentive i used to have? Gone.

Last but not least, it's becoming more fun building and tweaking, than it is looking at it when it's finished :)
Less and more often, with AMD/Ati only is my way to go from now on. I will let children scream about "bestest" and focus on enjoying the process a bit more ^^
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#9
R-T-B
"chaosmassive said:
AND 2nd gen completely different from 1st gen core i series
Less different than you'd think core-wise, actually.
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#10
PowerPC
Intel's CPU division has long lost their sense of innovation. Their little routine of 5% IPC gains and process shrinks per generations is all they have now. But it's really a death spiral for Intel at this point, because that train is long gone and they are left with nothing. I would be scrambling to sell my Intel stock and buy up as much AMD stock as I could right about now.
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#11
mcraygsx
"RejZoR said:
Skylake to Broadwell is considered as "major" update? It's the same crap. I have a CPU from even one generation back and it's still better (Haswell). 6 cores, 12 threads and clock of 4.5GHz. 7700K can cry all it wants.
Exactly Skylake was a tweaked version of Broadwell which never saw light of the day. Also upcoming Skylake-X on HEDT is hard to justify due to insanely high MSRP. If I were to upgrade from 7700K/1800X. I would definitely pick ThreadRipper due to price alone.

All put together we INTEL have nothing new to offer until mid-2018 maybe with ICE-Lake. AMD while slow to bring on their Zen is shaking the CPU market.
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#12
Slizzo
"mcraygsx said:
Exactly Skylake was a tweaked version of Broadwell which never saw light of the day. Also upcoming Skylake-X on HEDT is hard to justify due to insanely high MSRP. If I were to upgrade from 7700K/1800X. I would definitely pick ThreadRipper due to price alone.

All put together we INTEL have nothing new to offer until mid-2018 maybe with ICE-Lake. AMD while slow to bring on their Zen is shaking the CPU market.
5775c would like to have a word with you.

It was out, was just incredibly late; Sky Lake was very close behind launch of Broadwell.
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#13
Frick
Fishfaced Nincompoop
"Slizzo said:
5775c would like to have a word with you.
I sort of hate Intel for not working more on those. Really cool CPUs, but way, way to expensive and they never ended up even having a place in the market.
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#14
RejZoR
5775c is what we thought Skylake would be. A CPU with extra 128MB L4 (eDRAM) cache. It ended up being only on this model and only for graphics. Which made Skylake utterly dull offering. It's also why I ended up with Haswell-E. Because Skylake-E was nowhere to be seen. Not even rumored...
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#15
efikkan
"mcraygsx said:
Exactly Skylake was a tweaked version of Broadwell which never saw light of the day.
No, Skylake was a new architecture, Broadwell was a stepping of Haswell.
Skylake-X offers larger changes over Skylake as well, with a redesigned cache hierarchy, AVX-512 and different core infrastructure.

"mcraygsx said:
Also upcoming Skylake-X on HEDT is hard to justify due to insanely high MSRP.
How can you claim that?
We already know Broadwell-E is faster than Zen cores, but we don't know how much Skylake-X will improve on top of that.
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#16
virachochas
A big BRAVO for Intel.
So:
Q1 2011 Intel brings i7 2600K (32nm) (TDP 95W)- Average CPU Mark (cpubenchmark.net) - 8480 points
... I7 3770K
... I7 4790K
... I7 6700K
Q1 2017 the big success i7 7700K (14nm) (TDP 95W) - Average CPU Mark (cpubenchmark.net) - 12178 points

After 6 years and 4 more generation Intel manage to build (in the same price range 300-350$) a CPU who is with 43% (average) faster than best i7 in 2011.
And now Intel prepare the word for a astonishing release that will bring some 5% increase in performance. Oh, well what can i say....i'm speechless.
Now let's go back to our Ryzen rigs.
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#17
Ryrynz
"RejZoR said:
5775c is what we thought Skylake would be. A CPU with extra 128MB L4 (eDRAM) cache. It ended up being only on this model and only for graphics. Which made Skylake utterly dull offering. It's also why I ended up with Haswell-E. Because Skylake-E was nowhere to be seen. Not even rumored...
You're wrong. It wasn't only for graphics.
https://www.techspot.com/review/1028-intel-core-i7-5775c-broadwell/

"Since the eDRAM operates at 1.8GHz on these Broadwell processors, it affords them an extra bi-directional throughput of over 57GB/s (114GB/s aggregate). Better still, the large L4 cache isn’t exclusive to the graphics engine, the CPU can also access this cache. When a discrete GPU is used, the eDRAM will focus on caching CPU requests, effectively giving Broadwell desktop processors a massive 128MB L4 cache."
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#18
eidairaman1
The Exiled Airman
"Ryrynz said:
You're wrong. It wasn't only for graphics.
https://www.techspot.com/review/1028-intel-core-i7-5775c-broadwell/

"Since the eDRAM operates at 1.8GHz on these Broadwell processors, it affords them an extra bi-directional throughput of over 57GB/s (114GB/s aggregate). Better still, the large L4 cache isn’t exclusive to the graphics engine, the CPU can also access this cache. When a discrete GPU is used, the eDRAM will focus on caching CPU requests, effectively giving Broadwell desktop processors a massive 128MB L4 cache."
They haven't released another since 6k/7k/8k series are launched...
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#19
Ryrynz
Yeah I know.. a real shame. We'll see something when Icelake comes out though.
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#20
RejZoR
"Ryrynz said:
You're wrong. It wasn't only for graphics.
https://www.techspot.com/review/1028-intel-core-i7-5775c-broadwell/

"Since the eDRAM operates at 1.8GHz on these Broadwell processors, it affords them an extra bi-directional throughput of over 57GB/s (114GB/s aggregate). Better still, the large L4 cache isn’t exclusive to the graphics engine, the CPU can also access this cache. When a discrete GPU is used, the eDRAM will focus on caching CPU requests, effectively giving Broadwell desktop processors a massive 128MB L4 cache."
a) they never introduced it on anything actually high end (the given model with L4 was mid end weakling)
b) they never released anything with L4 since

I was expecting Skylake to be a flagship with L4 across the board. It turned out to be just another CPU with hardly any changes. What was worse is that HEDT didn't even receive Skylake part up until NOW. And I've had the "old" Haswell-E system for 2 years since mainstream Skylake was introduced. It also only had boring 4c/8t as maximum. I've been on 4c/8t like 6 years ago with Core i7 920. Which is why I ended up opting for older 5820K with 6c/12t...
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#21
Octopuss
Tape out means it's finished? How can an architecture AFTER one that's in progress be already finished?
I don't understand.
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