Monday, July 17th 2017

Intel to Launch Multiple Six-core CPUs on Coffee Lake Architecture, i5 Lineup

In what could be a decisive response from Intel towards AMD's recent Ryzen success and core count democratization, reports are making the rounds that Intel is preparing for a shakedown of sorts of its i7 and i5 CPU line-up under the upcoming Coffee Lake architecture. We recently saw (and continue to see) AMD deliver much more interesting propositions than Intel in a pure power/performance/core ratio. And Intel seems to know that its lineup is in dire need of revision, if it wants to stop its market dominant position from bleeding too much.

A report from Canard PC claims that Intel will thoroughly revise its CPU lineup for the Coffee Lake architecture, with an i7-8700K six-core, 12-thread processor being the top offering. This 8700K is reported to deliver its 12 threads at a 3.7 GHz base clock, and a 95 W TDP. These are comparable to AMD's Ryzen 5 1600X processor, which ships with the same six cores and 12 threads under the same TDP, though it has 100 MHz less in base clock speed. However, AMD's Ryzen 5 1600X does retail for about $249 - and you can go even lower to Ryzen 5 1600's $219 - which probably won't happen with Intel's top of the line i7 offering. A slight mention towards the Ryzen 7's 95 W TDP - the same as this reported i7 8700K - even though it has 2 more physical cores, and 4 extra threads.
The more interesting part of the report, though, is that Intel may be looking to basically dominate its entire i5 line-up with 6-core offerings, from the i5-8600K, towards the (usually lowly) 8400 processor. The main differentiating factor between the i5 and the i7 lineup of 6-core processors would be support for HyperThreading. The i5-8600K processor is said to be clocked at 3.6 GHz with the same TDP as the i7-8700K (95 W), while the i5-8400 would bring about a 2.8 GHz base clock and a 65 W TDP. This lends itself to a natural reasoning regarding the rest of Intel's lineup. Assuming the report is true, Intel's differentiation could go one of two ways: a further extension of its i5 lineup to lower digits (8300, 8200, and so forth) for its 4-core, 8-thread CPUs and pure quad-core processors for the i3 lineup; or, heaven forbid, quad-core, 8-thread processors being available on the top of Intel's i3 product stack. Personally, this editor doesn't see that happening. At least not yet.

The report also goes on to say that Intel is looking to introduce 6-core processors to its mobile lineup as well, although with much lower clock speeds (reportedly around the 2 GHz mark) to allow for the lower TDP platform requirements (at 45 W.) There's also mention of a 28 W quad-core mobile (U) processor.
Sources: CPC Hardware, via Videocardz
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60 Comments on Intel to Launch Multiple Six-core CPUs on Coffee Lake Architecture, i5 Lineup

#51
Mussels
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TheGuruStudWeb browser alone eats CPU cycles like I eat bacon. Dual cores are inadequate for even browsing to me. Guess what happens when AV scans the traffic of the page you're loading and some files on disk at the same time? I want to toss it in the trash.
having two web browsers open while playing diablo III caused me to stutter and lag at around 40 FPS today.

I do not have low end laptop specs... an i3 + HT (4 threads) would be the bare minimum for just a few tabs these days.
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#52
dwade
TomorrowWrong.
Consoles don't count.
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#53
zelnep
amd just did make cpu market grate again
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#54
Nihilus
dwadeWelp... Ryzen had a good run. But Intel 6 cores is more consistent in productivity. Factor in gaming and that assessment multiples itself.

An i5 Coffee Lake of 7700k will be the mainstream champion that's for sure.
Welp, we don't even know cpu/mb prices for the coffee 6-core, o/c ability, etc so maybe we can think before making a blind statement. I have a feeling you speak before thinking as well....

No doubt Cofee 6-core will be better at gaming than Skylake-x 6 core. That chip may actually lose to Ryzen in gaming!
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#55
Diverge
phanbueyI work in an office building and those people are constantly bitching about the speed of their system. Also all of the IT guys have monster quad-cores with SSDs to do helpdesk :/

Dual cores are 'barely' enough for any real excel work.

I'm hoping the core wars spur more multi-threaded software... would be nice to have this CPU last me a few years (unlikely tho).
Don't forget all the crap software they usually have running in the background.... Usually like 2-3 different security programs, etc...
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#56
Mussels
Freshwater Moderator
after misreading something in this thread, i'm forever referring to these as "Covfefe Lake" CPU'ps
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#57
EarthDog
Musselsafter misreading something in this thread, i'm forever referring to these as "Covfefe Lake" CPU'ps
Bwaaaaaaahahahahahahahaha!
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#58
Frick
Fishfaced Nincompoop
Musselshaving two web browsers open while playing diablo III caused me to stutter and lag at around 40 FPS today.

I do not have low end laptop specs... an i3 + HT (4 threads) would be the bare minimum for just a few tabs these days.
Dual core sans SMT works for browsing ... if you use ad blockers and mostly do text heavy sites. Source: Pentium G3220 user. I don't use that any more and even I felt the lack of threads towards the end though
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#59
M3T4LM4N222
Unless Intel can offer competitive pricing and performance to Ryzen 5 and Ryzen 7, Coffee Lake is DOA.

Consider this - LGA 1151 has been around for years, likely on it's way out after Coffee Lake. Coffee Lake is going to require you buy a new motherboard, won't be a drop-in for current boards. AM4 just released and is likely going to ride out for several years.

The only way I could go Coffee Lake is if I am able to get a Core i5, 6 core 6 thread for the same price as a Ryzen 5 1600, that I can drop into my existing board. Otherwise, goodbye current Intel setup, hello AMD Ryzen.
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#60
jabbadap
M3T4LM4N222Unless Intel can offer competitive pricing and performance to Ryzen 5 and Ryzen 7, Coffee Lake is DOA.

Consider this - LGA 1151 has been around for years, likely on it's way out after Coffee Lake. Coffee Lake is going to require you buy a new motherboard, won't be a drop-in for current boards. AM4 just released and is likely going to ride out for several years.

The only way I could go Coffee Lake is if I am able to get a Core i5, 6 core 6 thread for the same price as a Ryzen 5 1600, that I can drop into my existing board. Otherwise, goodbye current Intel setup, hello AMD Ryzen.
It should work with current LGA 1151 chipsets too(200 -series+some of the 100 -series)
twitter.com/CPCHardware/status/886940741599145984
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