Wednesday, January 31st 2018

Various AMD Ryzen "Raven Ridge" Models Put Through 3DMark

Ahead of its February 12 launch, various models of AMD Ryzen "Raven Ridge" APUs, in both their notebook and desktop iterations, were put through 3DMark, which is perhaps the best way to put AMD's combination of its latest CPU and GPU architectures, to the test. Pictures also surfaced on Reddit, of the PIB boxes of the Ryzen 3 2200G and Ryzen 5 2400G, highlighting their "silver band" demarcation from the rest of the Ryzen processor lineup. This silver band features prominent Radeon Vega graphics branding, indicating that the model is a "Raven Ridge" APU.

Armed with 704 "Vega" stream processors spread across 11 NGCUs, the Radeon Vega 11 integrated graphics core of the Ryzen 5 2400G is AMD's fastest integrated graphics solution by far. It's also the fastest integrated graphics solution fully integrated with the CPU silicon (unlike, for example, the Core i7-8705G being a multi-chip module). The entire Ryzen "Raven Ridge" APU lineup was put through 3DMark 11 "Performance" preset, by someone with access to all of them. The 2400G leads the pack with 5,162 points, and a graphics score of 5,042 points. The 2200G, which features 512 stream processors, and lacks SMT, manages 4,151 points, with 3,950 points graphics score. The 2400G scores somewhere between the desktop RX 550 and the RX 560, which makes it possible for you to run "Player Unknown's Battlegrounds" at 900p or even 1080p with some details dialed down.
Source: ComputerBase.de
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45 Comments on Various AMD Ryzen "Raven Ridge" Models Put Through 3DMark

#1
HD64G
Fantastic gaming performance if those numbers are on stock settings. And will help more in performance (especially on modern game titles) when/if Vega features are enabled.
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#2
Imsochobo
Mussels said:
I'm not familiar with AMD's current GPU's, can someone save me the effort and give me a summary on how these compare to nvidias 9/10 series based on those scores?
GT1030 as closest, minus a few points.
It should be fairly close but that's about it but for many people it's what they want, on this forum not so much I guess.
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#3
Mussels
Moderprator
to put it into comparison, my HTPC can play every game i throw it at, at 1080p (some titles like PUBG require very low settings, but its smooth at those settings)

its an i7 4790 (it was an i5 3550 last week), 16GB ram, SSD and a 750ti
to buy that PC today, even with its older hardware would not be cheap (i get stupidly lucky with second hand hardware) - and along comes raven ridge, promising that level of performance as *entry level* at low prices

This is genuinely exciting as a kick in the pants for first time gamers, HTPC's that double as gaming systems, and so on
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#4
RejZoR
Imagine Ryzen R5 1600 with Radeon RX580 on a single die APU. And this would be something AMD would sell en mass to normal people because it couldn't be used for miners since it's already a tied thing.
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#5
First Strike
RejZoR said:
Imagine Ryzen R5 1600 with Radeon RX580 on a single die APU. And this would be something AMD would sell en mass to normal people because it couldn't be used for miners since it's already a tied thing.
Then it would require a dedicated 200W-TDP-capable motherboard, or else it will smoke mainstream motherboards. And better some GDDR or HBM on board.
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#6
Imsochobo
First Strike said:
Then it would require a dedicated 200W-TDP-capable motherboard, or else it will smoke mainstream motherboards. And better some GDDR or HBM on board.
Furthermore the pinout to support Memory onboard, all the pins on a ram stick is not for show and a lot of those go to the cpu.
2000 pin consumer cpu to allow for dedicated memory for the memory starved apu is not going to happen.

DDR5 in 2019-2020 will bring next jump in apu performance but 3200mhz ddr4 + amd APU should be quite a leap from what we used to have :-)
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#7
Brusfantomet
Mussels said:
to put it into comparison, my HTPC can play every game i throw it at, at 1080p (some titles like PUBG require very low settings, but its smooth at those settings)

its an i7 4790 (it was an i5 3550 last week), 16GB ram, SSD and a 750ti
to buy that PC today, even with its older hardware would not be cheap (i get stupidly lucky with second hand hardware) - and along comes raven ridge, promising that level of performance as *entry level* at low prices

This is genuinely exciting as a kick in the pants for first time gamers, HTPC's that double as gaming systems, and so on
Add a streacom FC8 and appropriate PSU and you have the potential for a HTPC without any moving parts. I am so getting a RR.
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#8
TheinsanegamerN
the54thvoid said:
In fairness, that's an old GPU (nearly 3 years) and that 960m is an under locked 750ti equivalent. Not criticising but you'd expect that APU to smoke a 3 year old low level mobile gaming chip.
The success will be based on how it compares to today's offerings and guess what? On a price performance standpoint, nothing will be able to touch the Raven Ridge chip.
In fairness, a 512 core carrizo APU gets it's GPU hind end handed to it by the R3 240, a far weaker 384 core AMD GPU.

Raven ridge pushing past 750ti levels is nothing short of a massive jump in real world performance.
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#9
Frick
Fishfaced Nincompoop
RejZoR said:
Imagine Ryzen R5 1600 with Radeon RX580 on a single die APU. And this would be something AMD would sell en mass to normal people because it couldn't be used for miners since it's already a tied thing.
Won't happen, but I'm hoping for a ~125W part (previous APUs topped out there). Should be good, if it happens.
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#10
ShurikN
Frick said:
Won't happen, but I'm hoping for a ~125W part (previous APUs topped out there). Should be good, if it happens.
A 125W part could incorporate a 4C/8T cpu at around 45W, and the rest for gpu.
And for 80W you could get something between RX560 and RX570. I'd like to see that.
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#11
springs113
One of these should make me a nice server/nas build.
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#12
Jism
First Strike said:
Then it would require a dedicated 200W-TDP-capable motherboard, or else it will smoke mainstream motherboards. And better some GDDR or HBM on board.
RX580 is bandwidth starved. So it's either HBM or go home. And knowing that the RX580 needs a IMC rebuild for HBM, it's proberly not going to happen. This is the best you can get.

I'd love sticking a day or 2 with engineers @ AMD having such things to play with.
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#13
plåtburken
Frick said:
Won't happen, but I'm hoping for a ~125W part (previous APUs topped out there). Should be good, if it happens.
I am certain AMD can pull that off, infact the macbooks that uses Radeon PRO 460/560 are rated for 35W TDP and runs a bit faster than a regular 460/560 desktop GPU. So it's highly possible. Not only that, if they can create the monsters Threadripper and EPYC, then they should be able to do this too.
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#15
mickel116
as an investor, as long as they bring profits from it i am ok with it..
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#16
crazyeyesreaper
Chief Broken Rig
If the results are anything to go by they are not all that amazing.

RX460 is still getting a graphics score of 8000 depending on clocks. Compare that to 5000 of the best APU.

The Raven Ridge Ryzen 5 2400G Basically ends up on par with a I5 3000 series CPU and RX550 GPU. Thats not really impressive in terms of performance however it IS impressive from TDP standpoint.

Raven Ridge should be 65w TDP

I5 3550 for example is 77w + 47 w of the RX550 thats 117w or double the power for the same performance.
i3 4330 is 54 w + 47w for just over 100w TDP.
i3 8100 is 65 w + 47w for again around 100-110w. Granted the i3 will be faster in CPU tasks without the RX550 the Intel chip does get left in the dust.

So overall is the performance is accurate then AMD has a good offering in terms of performance per watt. However its likely not going to replace older entry level systems
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#17
Melvis


To have one of those APU's in a case like my INWIN Chopin would be awesome! Tiny Desktop PC that CAN play games.

You wont find much else that can do that at that size and for the price!
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#18
crazyeyesreaper
Chief Broken Rig
Intel Iris Pro 580 (costly) Can get close with a score of about 3800-4000 which is similar to other APUs from AMD sadly Intel chooses to lock Iris graphics behind ungodly expensive CPUs so kinda moot but still IGPs capable of this level of performance are kinda available already .

Still to put that into perspective Intel Iris Pro 580 offers GPU performance similar to that of AMD HD 5790 / 5830
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#19
Frick
Fishfaced Nincompoop
crazyeyesreaper said:
Intel Iris Pro 580 (costly) Can get close with a score of about 3800-4000 which is similar to other APUs from AMD sadly Intel chooses to lock Iris graphics behind ungodly expensive CPUs so kinda moot but still IGPs capable of this level of performance are kinda available already .

Still to put that into perspective Intel Iris Pro 580 offers GPU performance similar to that of AMD HD 5790 / 5830
Still behind the top Raven ridge though. And as you say, the Iris Pro CPUs cost so much I don't really count them for anything.
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#20
crazyeyesreaper
Chief Broken Rig
True but the fact remains Intel does in fact offer a higher end IGP. THis isnt new per se its just more affordable now which is nice.

This is the performance you can roughly expect from Raven Ridge 2400G (RX 550 ) http://www.tomshardware.com/reviews/amd-radeon-rx-550-2gb,5034-4.html

Essentially all low settings in modern titles at 1080p with indie or more casual / less demanding titles being playable at medium or higher settings. Its good enough not great. But way better than expect considering the TDP value. if TDP was higher at 95w instead of 65w it likely would perform a great deal better.

That said would be good for a system used for older titles from about decade ago. The Dark and dank Vista days lol.
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